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Cartridgeblowers posted:I like Danger Street, even if it's running a little long. You aren’t allowed to say something nice about a Tom King book here. You could get permabanned.
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Joe Fisto posted:You aren’t allowed to say something nice about a Tom King book here. You could get permabanned. with good cause
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Sep 22, 2023 02:34
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If King and Snyder worked together some goons might go into orbit I just finished reading the Geoff three joker thing. Sigh
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Sep 22, 2023 06:50
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I just said a bunch of good things about King! It simply includes the caveat that I would experience zero surprise if, oh I dunno, Steve Trevor gets minced in a literal blender or something next issue to provide edge quota for the edge gods.
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Sep 22, 2023 07:41
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Wonder Woman obviously a bizarre choice to have King be the writer on, but the thread shouldn't sleep on The Penguin. A much better fit for the tone that King is known for and it does a great job of selling the Penguin as a scary crime boss.
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Sep 22, 2023 11:37
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BrianWilly posted:I just said a bunch of good things about King! It simply includes the caveat that I would experience zero surprise if, oh I dunno, Steve Trevor gets minced in a literal blender or something next issue to provide edge quota for the edge gods. King is more likely to spend five pages on a monologue about nothing than go weird edgelord. He's capable of writing snappy dialogue and getting to the point. He just seems to prefer going into weird philosophical discussions with barely anything of note happening on the page.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:08
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King knows writers who use subtext, and they're all cowards.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:26
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I just read the good King books like Love Everlasting (and I liked his Batman).
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Sep 22, 2023 15:43
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I enjoyed Omega Men but I'm afraid to go back to it because it probably has all the same problems as most of his current stuff, but that was before it was done in every Tom King comic where everyone and everything has to be miserable all the time. I did like parts of Batman, especially the date stuff, but when they backed out of the wedding it just soured the whole thing.
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Sep 22, 2023 15:58
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Codependent Poster posted:I enjoyed Omega Men but I'm afraid to go back to it because it probably has all the same problems as most of his current stuff, but that was before it was done in every Tom King comic where everyone and everything has to be miserable all the time. From my recollection it's very much everyone being miserable including special guest, Kyle Rayner
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Sep 22, 2023 16:52
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Batman/Elmer Fudd was fun
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Sep 22, 2023 16:55
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It's not his fault entirely but that's the worse riddler I ever saw
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Sep 22, 2023 17:14
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I liked Human Target but that had the advantages of being both out-of-canon and also that I don't know poo poo about Christopher Chance so I couldn't tell if he was being written poorly or anything like that. And yeah I'll go to bat ( ) for the vast majority of his Batman. And Supergirl's okay but like, it's just True Grit but with Supergirl.
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Sep 22, 2023 18:24
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Honestly sounds like my policy of not reading modern main continuity books from either DC or Marvel(with the occasional exception) is continuing to be a good one
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Sep 24, 2023 21:10
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly sounds like my policy of not reading modern main continuity books from either DC or Marvel(with the occasional exception) is continuing to be a good one A few of the new DC books aren't bad. The problem is the big 2 are just big corporate messes now.
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Sep 24, 2023 21:24
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A lot of New Dawn books are really good. They just completely cut off the momentum with the dumb Knight Terrors crossover.
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Sep 24, 2023 22:22
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X-O posted:A lot of New Dawn books are really good. They just completely cut off the momentum with the dumb Knight Terrors crossover. Which do you like?
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X-O posted:A lot of New Dawn books are really good. They just completely cut off the momentum with the dumb Knight Terrors crossover. This. Most of the Dawn of DC titles have been solid, and without a doubt a much better direction than what they have been doing. It's still mystifying why they did Knight Terrors at all. Nobody wanted it, especially liked it, and certainly killed momentum on the actual successful relainches that has just gotten underway Also people should check out the John Stewart book. Don't let the dumb subtitle throw you.
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Sep 24, 2023 22:45
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Mr Hootington posted:Which do you like? All the Superman books (Action, Superman, Steelworks, and especially Superboy which was fantastic), Green Arrow, Nightwing, Titans, Shazam, and even Green Lantern. And that last one's a big one for me because I have historically not liked Green Lantern at all. The only reason I gave the book a chance was based on the great Flash run that Jeremy Adams had just done. I also really like what they've done with Power Girl going into the book she's getting from Leah Williams. The Fire and Ice one shot was really great. I also really like World's Finest but that's been running for a bit uninterrupted.
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Sep 24, 2023 22:54
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I've really enjoyed the Peacemaker Tries Hard mini that's about to end.
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X-O posted:All the Superman books (Action, Superman, Steelworks, and especially Superboy which was fantastic), Green Arrow, Nightwing, Titans, Shazam, and even Green Lantern. And that last one's a big one for me because I have historically not liked Green Lantern at all. The only reason I gave the book a chance was based on the great Flash run that Jeremy Adams had just done. I also really like what they've done with Power Girl going into the book she's getting from Leah Williams. The Fire and Ice one shot was really great. I also really like World's Finest but that's been running for a bit uninterrupted. I'm not reading some of those due to planned read through I have after I finish my batman project. I disagree about Superboy. Thought it was very bad for the middle issues of that arc. Titans and Shazam are both fantastic. Steelworks was ok foe the 1 issue I read. If you haven't tried it you should check out the JSA and stargirl mini.
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I think Hawkgirl is definitely lower on the list than some of the others (the OC with her talking pet corgi is both way too twee and just way to indugently sudden for the writer). Steelworks is kinda there. Not bad, not great. Wonder Woman just started so who knows where that's going. Titans also feels a bit lite that as well. I'll also say I'm a little iffy on Unstoppable Doom Patrol. It's very ambitious, but it might be a bit overburdened for its limited run. All of the new character titles seem good to great though: City Boy, The Vigil, and Spirit World in that order..
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Sep 25, 2023 00:12
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DC hasn’t been this strong over all in a long time.
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Sep 25, 2023 14:54
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Read Nightwing #12 (1996) last night. Boy this comic has aged like milk. Dixon's lovely politics really leak into nightwing and Scott McDaniel is a terrible artist.   Ah the 90s. I also enjoy Tim Drake being consistently written as some junior tpusa rear end in a top hat in Robin.
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Sep 25, 2023 15:43
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some of that posing and composition is pretty good. coloring is god awful though
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Sep 25, 2023 16:16
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Fuckin liberals
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Sep 25, 2023 16:19
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Would a liberal fight crime with a giant human sized roach trap
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Parallax posted:some of that posing and composition is pretty good. coloring is god awful though A lot of McDaniels work becomes very messy. You should see his catwoman or nightwing in an action sequence.
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Upsidads posted:Would a liberal fight crime with a giant human sized roach trap Having my hero use a giant glue mouse trap to catch a criminal, but stopping myself from including a monolog about the criminal being vermin.
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Sep 25, 2023 16:32
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A lot of the '90s coloring looks a lot worse in the digital reprints than it did on the page. Not saying the page would improve this a ton but it wouldn't look as bad I'm guessing when on the page.
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Sep 25, 2023 16:32
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A lot of 90s digital coloring is rough. Gradients everywhere
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X-O posted:A lot of New Dawn books are really good. They just completely cut off the momentum with the dumb Knight Terrors crossover. See that's exactly why I'm not willing to invest myself in modern main continuity books, while DC's always been a bit too event happy after COIE, ever since Flashpoint the pace just keeps accelerating more and more to the point where it feels meaningless to get invested even in the books that are decent cause you just know some outside factor is going to ruin it before too long
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I haven't read a lot of Flash (just the recent Adams run) but I have read a lot of Spurrier and his first issue as writer has me hooked.
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Shame Deodato's artwork looks like a bad 3d webcomic.
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Oh hey Dan Didio is back in the news! https://twitter.com/renfamous/statu...%5Es1_&ref_url=
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E the Shaggy posted:Oh hey Dan Didio is back in the news! Can someone explain to me how and why he became Editor in Chief of DC?
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doomrider7 posted:Can someone explain to me how and why he became Editor in Chief of DC?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Didn't Bob Harras give him the job? Other way around. Jim Lee came to DC and brought Harras with him from Wildstorm. Didio had been publisher for years before Harras showed up.
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Didio was technically never "editor in chief" at DC; he went from VP of Editorial, to "Executive Editor" (replacing Mike Carlin) in 2002, to "Co-Publisher" (replacing part of Paul Levitz) in 2010. Didio had a low profile but pretty successful career in developing/story editing for children's animation (Reboot and Beast Wars being the most-remembered series) for like twenty years before getting hired by DC as a VP in editorial. It probably did not hurt that he was longtime friends with Joe Quesada and Jimmy Palmiotti, who four years earlier had done the Marvel Knights line, which was seen as "outsiders" revitalizing moribund properties, to the point that in 2000 Quesada was appointed Editor-in-Chief of Marvel. In the big picture it's important to look at the comic market in that time, for five years between 1997 and 2001, DC hadn't had a #1 selling comic AT ALL, and the only books that cracked the top ten across those five years were: 1. JLA by Grant Morrison (and later, briefly, Mark Waid) Both of these creators had by 2002 been poached by Marvel, and Morrison was writing Marvel's consistent #1 book 2. Green Arrow by Kevin Smith, who started writing comics via Bob Schreck at Oni, was the centerpiece of the initial MK launch, and who DC hired not long before Didio 3. Battle Chasers and Danger Girl, two incredibly infrequent creator-owned books DC inherited from their purchase of Wildstorm at the end of 1998 Their first #1 comic since Superman turned blue was Frank Miller's DK2, a book edited by and shephered into existence by Schreck, who had worked with Millar at Dark Horse in the 1990s. Their next one was the first issue of Hush, which was a book Didio helped arrange alongside Schreck. And then in the mid-2000s a lot of sales/attention momentum shifted towards DC in a way it had not for a solid decade+. This isn't a commentary on the quality of any of the top selling books from any publisher (they were frequently bad!) or the work environment of the offices under Didio (they were, more importantly and objectively, frequently terrible!) but in terms of "how did he ever get hired/promoted/kept around", that is why. And Bob Harras's CV is a little more complex, he was EiC at Marvel up until 2000 when he was fired and Quesada replaced him. After that, Jim Lee (who had sold Wildstorm to DC but still had a semi-autonomous studio/office in California) hired Harras in a nebulous editorial consultant position that he did from home on the east coast. As Wildstorm got more absorbed into the DC structure (and published fewer and fewer books), Harras got a gig at DC proper around 2005 (post-Didio) as the editor of collected editions and various other low profile projects. When Didio and Lee were made co-publishers in 2010, Harras was given the "Editor in Chief" position, which had previously been sort of merged into Paul Levitz's position of President/Publisher, allegedly because Levitz didn't want to be called "Editor in Chief" because it would invite comparisons to Stan Lee, Jim Shooter, etc. When they did the big restructuring, Diane Nelson became President, Didio/Lee became Publisher, and the 'editor in chief' title was basically created and Harras was placed in it, reporting to Lee/Didio.
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I'm reading more of Dixon's Nightwing and it is like his Robin where the books are good when he isn't inserting his weird politics into it. I don't know how long Dixon's run lasts and I'm worried about Devin's whose run I've always heard is pretty bad.
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