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At least they can’t say that he’s an empty suit.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Dude became a real life political cartoon 
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https://twitter.com/DesolusDev/status/1701715805954806091
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Dick Trauma posted:
Frantically googling "how to get away with crimes" and "how to bury things in the backyard and make it look natural"
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Sep 23, 2023 14:27
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being a US senator is how to get away with crimes
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kazil posted:being a US senator is how to get away with crimes And is why you shouldn't have to google it. Even the people bribing you should be able to offer tips.
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theflyingexecutive posted:And is why you shouldn't have to google it. Even the people bribing you should be able to offer tips. jesus christ do you have to tip on top of a bribe now?
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The Wrestler 2: In The Line of Fire 2
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https://twitter.com/alexandermoss/status/1705279987442471150 https://twitter.com/csandis/status/1705147268402233445 https://twitter.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1705507888075096448
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greazeball posted:jesus christ do you have to tip on top of a bribe now? American senator
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Can someone walk me through this one?
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Warbird posted:Can someone walk me through this one? I'm not gonna attempt an explanation but in case nobody competent steps up, this might help https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definite_description Look at the first section for the specifics, Russell's analysis
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Sep 23, 2023 18:12
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All I got from that is that language philosophers should probably be in jail.
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Sep 23, 2023 18:17
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King Charles gonna restart the 100 Years War
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boofhead posted:I'm not gonna attempt an explanation but in case nobody competent steps up, this might help Ah, philosophy. The pursuit of wisdom guided by intellectual rigor applied to the most important questions of human existence: does the King of France exist? Is he bald? Can you legally ask these questions??
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Leon Sumbitches posted:Ah, philosophy. The pursuit of wisdom guided by intellectual rigor applied to the most important questions of human existence: does the King of France exist? Is he bald? Can you legally ask these questions?? Hey, no-one ever said the questions had to be important 
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boofhead posted:I'm not gonna attempt an explanation but in case nobody competent steps up, this might help This was a fun rabbit hole, thank you.
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boofhead posted:I'm not gonna attempt an explanation but in case nobody competent steps up, this might help why is there loving math in an article about language Warbird posted:All I got from that is that language philosophers should probably be in jail.
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boofhead posted:I'm not gonna attempt an explanation but in case nobody competent steps up, this might help quote:. Bertrand Russell pointed out that this raises a puzzle about the truth value of the sentence "The present King of France is bald."[1] Hold the phone, fucko. It took me approximately half a second after reading this to think "but the immediately obvious negation of that sentence is "there does not presently exist a bald King of France " which it took that dumdum many sleepless nights and a tortured series of symbolic logic statements to arrive at, whatta nimrod.
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I mean you can just look at them and go "yep" or "nah" depending tho. Unless he's wearing a toupee, then maybe you're in dicey waters.
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syntaxfunction posted:I mean you can just look at them and go "yep" or "nah" depending tho. Unless he's wearing a toupee, then maybe you're in dicey waters. To a language philosopher, the scope of the attribute “bald” is not restricted to the head.
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Maybe they should just point to the head tho and be like "that bit, that's the bald part yeah".
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The problem with the philosophy of language is that it suffers from the law of the excluded outside. Language philosophers will debate amongst themselves to a mutual climax but outsiders, who do not give a single poo poo about language philosophy yet are forced to listen to the debate, will not only not climax but often will never be able to feel any mortal joy ever again It's actually a big part of why Bertrand Russell, despite his great achievements, was eventually sealed inside a concrete box and dropped down a mine shaft boofhead has a new favorite as of 22:13 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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Breetai posted:Hold the phone, fucko. It took me approximately half a second after reading this to think "but the immediately obvious negation of that sentence is "there does not presently exist a bald King of France " which it took that dumdum many sleepless nights and a tortured series of symbolic logic statements to arrive at, whatta nimrod. Also "the present king of france is not bald" is still less wrong than saying he is, as things that are not, also do not posess attributes, therefore asserting that the king of france lacks attributes moves the truth value slightly closer to the actual truth that the king of france is not anything.
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Russell is trying to use mathematical logic to describe human speech. He's not saying "human speech is mathematics logic", he's saying, "If we want to talk about human language and thought in the abstract, we need to define some terms." Bear in mind the dude is among the most prominent mathematicians of the 20th century. (Even though his major project, Principia Mathematica, was utterly exploded by Gödel.) The question Russell is asking is "Look, there are sentences in the English language that cannot be cleanly translated in formal logic. Can I fix that?" And he comes up with a definition that does address that particular problem. It goes all mathematical because he was a mathematician trying to analyze thought: the math is baked in. The version of Russell's Paradox that everybody knows is "The town barber shaves everybody in town who does not shave himself. Who shaves the barber?" But it starts out as  e: Actually, what Boofhead said. Arsenic Lupin has a new favorite as of 22:20 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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boofhead posted:outsiders, who do not give a single poo poo about language philosophy yet are forced to listen to the debate, will not only not climax Try to stop me fucker
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Is there hair on the head of the present king of France? No? Sounds bald to me.
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OwlFancier posted:Also "the present king of france is not bald" is still less wrong than saying he is, as things that are not, also do not posess attributes, therefore asserting that the king of france lacks attributes moves the truth value slightly closer to the actual truth that the king of france is not anything. What will it take to move the truth value slightly closer to the actual truth for "all of the logic pedants have been thoroughly swirlied and shoved in a locker"?
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Splicer posted:Is there hair on the head of the present king of France? Ceci n'est pas une baldie
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Breetai posted:What will it take to move the truth value slightly closer to the actual truth for "all of the logic pedants have been thoroughly swirlied and shoved in a locker"? The same locker? I find THAT dubious. Splicer has a new favorite as of 22:32 on Sep 23, 2023 |
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France is bald of kings. Not a single king on its head.
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Hyperlynx posted:France is bald of kings. Not a single king on its head. Yeah they cut them all off
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Okay so just to close the loop for us idiots once and for all... Is the headline a joke or just a thin reference? Is there some nuanced British underpinning of a laugh at baldness (?) or is it just that A. he's a king and B. he's in france so C. check out this sick beep boop language reference that contains no other relevant connective context E: or is the joke that it's a thinly stretched stupid reference
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You are vastly overestimating the british press if you think it goes any further than "lol king went to france get rekt frenchies"
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Russell is trying to use mathematical logic to describe human speech. He's not saying "human speech is mathematics logic", he's saying, "If we want to talk about human language and thought in the abstract, we need to define some terms." Bear in mind the dude is among the most prominent mathematicians of the 20th century. Yeah and he's most prominent as the 20th Century's biggest loser.
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OwlFancier posted:You are vastly overestimating the british press if you think it goes any further than "lol king went to france get rekt frenchies" Understood. Thank you for your service
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Tunicate posted:Yeah and he's most prominent as the 20th Century's biggest loser. Didn't stop any wars, either. 
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