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Aniodia posted:Yeah, I found another article talking about just starting with the box of Custodes Guard, making the Leader a dude with a sword and board because those are tankier, leaving yourself the fifth dude to build as you see fit (I'm thinking of just using the banner dude, so that way I can magnetize to have the S&B, the polearm, or the banner and shield in case I want to start an actual Custodes army), and beginning tactics. So I'll admit up front I don't know the roster rules with 100% confidence because I've mostly ignored them myself. What I am about to say may be flawed. But here's the situation in my understanding: You pick your faction. Your faction offers a variety of dudes that can be on the team, and frequently some of those dudes have variable weapon options. To make a roster you write a list of 20 possible dudes from your faction with their particular weapon selections. Example for Custodes 1. Guard with sword and board 2. Guard with sword and board again 3. Guard with spear 4. Sister with flamer 5. Sister with great sword 6. Sister with bolter 7. Sister with bolter again 8. Sister with bolter again [And so on] 20. Sister with flamer again Then when you start a match you select operatives to deploy from the roster, obeying your faction rules (in Custodes' case the "mix and match 2 fire teams of Guard/SoS"). So the idea is if you couldn't fit every possible combination of operatives in 20 picks you might be barred from taking certain team comps. For Custodes you'd spend 4 roster slots on Sword Guard so you'd be allowed to deploy 4 Sword Guard if you wanted and then 4 slots on Spear Guard, and then you'd need 10 slots for Sword Sister, 10 for flamer Sister, and 10 for bolter Sister if you wanted to be able to do all-Sister team comps but whoops you're well past 20 picks! I think the roster rules are very stupid. As I understand them. Don't get the purpose of the restriction on team comps. Anyway, this is all to say again that you really needn't worry about buying many boxes of models to have 20 distinct physical objects for the roster. Just magnetize and you can get away with owning 4 Custodes and 5 Sisters (to repeat you'd need 10 Sisters magnetized to be able to select any possible team comp but I assume you're never going to want to play 10 Sisters). You can write whatever on your roster and still flex the models to represent 'em in play.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:10mm halflings finished. they are gonna be peasants in my bret army Goddamn those are amazing. Your WM models are things of absolute beauty.
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Nebalebadingdong posted:only if you own a printer I need the house first, but yeah, that will happen. MCPeePants posted:3d printed warmaster armies are wildly cheap though?? They are pretty cheap, but factor in two armies plus terrain and it isn't nothing. I'm in Canada's Appalachia, but even here houses are very pricey, I can only just afford a small "starter" house. My partner would murder me if I bought another game system right now. We both wargame and really want to build a sweet game room with a 6x4 table, a house will let us, just need to be good until then.
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I've been out of the loop for a bit, but what happened with Epic?
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Seems there was a major misprint in the rule book, they pushed release back until an undetermined time. There is surely more to it than that, but that is all I know for sure.
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drat, must be one hell of a misprint to justify reprinting them instead of just pushing through and issuing an errata. ... they made mention of the forbidden two primarchs or female Space Marines, didn't they? Gabs and Jayne will have their redemption!
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Rumors were that it was something along the lines of quoting the 14 words. No idea if that was true, but yeah, it must have been something big to have to totally reprint and push the date back. Especially considering how much hype got built up.
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It's more likely that it was just placeholder text. There's no evidence of anything bad except for one rumor from some random source. The 30k books leaked early and they were full of poo poo like every picture of a marine was named Chapter Master Klord Empion or tanks were silhouettes rather than painted models. I wouldn't be surprised if the wrong pdf got sent to the printers.
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Yeah, as I said, that was the big rumor. I'd think I'd have to be something more subtle than a mixed up PDF, surely GW would catch something like placeholders everywhere from the wrong pdf in a proof. That doesn't mean it is something controversial though, it could just be something in the rules so messed up a day one errata wouldn't be acceptable to them. edit: pausing for reflection, this is GW, it could totally be the wrong PDF. Virtual Russian fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Sep 25, 2023 |
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I've heard the serious misprint story from two people I know who have connections to separate previewers, so I'm comfortable with it being exactly as dumb as sending the wrong PDF version to print. In other news, here is a cool plastic model that I want to own. 
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I've heard the serious misprint story from two people I know who have connections to separate previewers, so I'm comfortable with it being exactly as dumb as sending the wrong PDF version to print. There's been a lot of neceominda models that I want to get for conversion projects for my 40k armirs lately
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:In other news, here is a cool plastic model that I want to own. ... Exosquad reboot?
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Sep 25, 2023 18:26
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I've heard the serious misprint story from two people I know who have connections to separate previewers, so I'm comfortable with it being exactly as dumb as sending the wrong PDF version to print. It certainly doesn't make for a great story that way, but that makes it all the more likely.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I've heard the serious misprint story from two people I know who have connections to separate previewers, so I'm comfortable with it being exactly as dumb as sending the wrong PDF version to print. Ordering a pallet of Epic_final2.pdf books from the printer instead of Epic_final2FINAL.pdf is the most relatable mistake.
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moths posted:Ordering a pallet of Epic_final2.pdf books from the printer instead of Epic_final2FINAL.pdf is the most relatable mistake. Doing that bug-eyed thing you do when you realize your car keys are in the car as you slam the door after hitting send on Epic_Final(NOBLACKSNODOGSNOIRISH).pdf
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Virtual Russian posted:Yeah, as I said, that was the big rumor. I'd think I'd have to be something more subtle than a mixed up PDF, surely GW would catch something like placeholders everywhere from the wrong pdf in a proof. That doesn't mean it is something controversial though, it could just be something in the rules so messed up a day one errata wouldn't be acceptable to them. Aren't the books printed in China? Downside of having a non-English speaking workforce is they are less likely to go "uhhh boss I think there's something wrong here..." Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I've heard the serious misprint story from two people I know who have connections to separate previewers, so I'm comfortable with it being exactly as dumb as sending the wrong PDF version to print. These are definitely good enough to use in any Cyberpunk setting you care to name. It's a shame the other Van Saar exosuit is in resin.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:In other news, here is a cool plastic model that I want to own. Oh now that's a glow up from the resin one. Really benefits from being lifted up, looks a lot less clunky and top heavy. Love the slide-down cockpit screen, under the spider eyes.
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I just got some terrain from TTCombat and while they look great, holy God do they smell like raw fish 🤢
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Z the IVth posted:Aren't the books printed in China? Generally, but apparently it's really common for them to get stuff done in the UK when time is pressing, it just costs more. In this particular instance I imagine it will cost a lot more because it will be an urgent rush job.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Generally, but apparently it's really common for them to get stuff done in the UK when time is pressing, it just costs more. In this particular instance I imagine it will cost a lot more because it will be an urgent rush job. Yeah, I was suggesting having them outsourced might have bitten them in the rear end since a Chinese printer is probably less likely to question a weird looking pdf vs someone local to the UK.
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Randalor posted:... Exosquad reboot? Holy poo poo, someone else who remembers Exosquad.
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Arachni-rigs are cool but god drat I am stoked for Enforcer vehicles. Some kind of bikes? Quads? The last of the V-8 Interceptors?
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chin up everything sucks posted:Holy poo poo, someone else who remembers Exosquad. it is not particularly obscure, among male goons of a particular age. it even had a bit part in the battletech/harmony gold saga.
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I had the blue one and the green one
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Genghis Cohen posted:Arachni-rigs are cool but god drat I am stoked for Enforcer vehicles. Some kind of bikes? Quads? The last of the V-8 Interceptors? They'll probably be Lawmaster bikes. Maybe some sort of Black Maria version of the cargo truck kit.
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I'm still bummed that the Escher bikes are jet bikes. I was hoping for dirt bikes or 80s style crotch-rockets.
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Does anyone actually buy and play with the NM bikes? They only ones I've ever seen are the ones packed in with Ash Wastes and the rules for those were apparently such a clusterfuck that it put off the local group entirely. Combine that with the also-hosed vehicle rules and everyone just wrote off anything bigger than an Ambot.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Arachni-rigs are cool but god drat I am stoked for Enforcer vehicles. Whatever it is, I want to stretch it into a cult limo.
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Z the IVth posted:Aren't the books printed in China? I hadn't considered that, a good point.
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Z the IVth posted:Aren't the books printed in China? I mean, printers aren't paid to be proofers or editors. If a client sends a file (especially if they've got a working relationship anyway,) the printer probably isn't going to push back and say "Are you sure you want this copy to go to print?"
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berzerkmonkey posted:I mean, printers aren't paid to be proofers or editors. If a client sends a file (especially if they've got a working relationship anyway,) the printer probably isn't going to push back and say "Are you sure you want this copy to go to print?" It's a fair point and I guess it would depend on how egregious the error was but if a client sent something that looked completely wrong I would have thought any professional would have raised a query. Doubly so if it's a massive print run and the customer could raise a stink. Actually wouldn't the printers have done a proof final copy first for approval? If that somehow passed muster but there was major errors in the actual run then I wonder what confluence of disasters led to it.
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Cease to Hope posted:Does anyone actually buy and play with the NM bikes? They only ones I've ever seen are the ones packed in with Ash Wastes and the rules for those were apparently such a clusterfuck that it put off the local group entirely. Combine that with the also-hosed vehicle rules and everyone just wrote off anything bigger than an Ambot. I have not had the chance to really play any Ash Wastes games yet, but yeah I have the starter box Orlock quads, two Wolfquads, two converted walkers, and 8 bikers for my Orlock gang. I also have a ridge runner and a couple big converted vehicles that are more gang-agnostic. My overall impression was that non-vehicle Necromunda is still a more popular way to play, but plenty of people are enthused by the Mad Max isms and modelling possibilities of vehicles, I've not seen any negativity towards it.
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Thinking of doing some comparisons between Blood Bowl league management software. Tourplay is probably the best one I’ve used so far, at least as far as automatic tracking of everything and ease of setup for participants, but it costs money which is a definite negative point for some folks. Anyone have any management software or sites that they use? Right now, I see break.tackle is under development, OBBLM is a good working option that the NAF recommends, and I’m sure there’s other stuff out there that I’m not aware of.
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When i worked as a proofer it was my responsibility just to make sure colours were correct, bleed was in place etc etc. If they spelt it Sbace Maribe then maybe I'd raise it with the pre-press folks if it wasn't a rush job, but spelling was the clients responsibility.
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I am playing my first game(s) of MESBG on Saturday! Going to go through as many of the intro scenarios from the Osgiliath set as we can in a few hours. I'm all giddy with excitement.
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Lumpy posted:I am playing my first game(s) of MESBG on Saturday! Going to go through as many of the intro scenarios from the Osgiliath set as we can in a few hours. I'm all giddy with excitement. I managed to get through the Faramir's guys vs troll scenario in two turns where I mashed faramir into goo twice. Fate points blocked it but faramir isnt really meant to facetank trolls.
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:I managed to get through the Faramir's guys vs troll scenario in two turns where I mashed faramir into goo twice. Fate points blocked it but faramir isnt really meant to facetank trolls. Makes note: "Mash Faramir into goo...."
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New Necromunda Apocrypha, concerning the Hive of Blood, which is sadly not about vampires. It does give abbreviated rules and guidelines for larger scale games. This might be the kill team but not Kill Team some friends have been waiting for, but I haven't read over anything yet.
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Z the IVth posted:Actually wouldn't the printers have done a proof final copy first for approval? If that somehow passed muster but there was major errors in the actual run then I wonder what confluence of disasters led to it.
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