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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007


Seeing the sprues have turned me around on the Sternguard I think. Looks like a lot of fun options we haven't seen photographed.

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xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

That terminator kit seems specifically designed to work with future upgrade sprues - such as Deathwing or Wolf Guard - rather than creating full new terminator kits each time. Will be interesting to see what happens when the DA update arrives.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
I want to make fun of the tentacle case but also realize there's like a bunch of insanely fiddly gw models its probably perfect for.

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Kitchner posted:

So they used to sell plasma and melta guns as seperate blisters because they didn't come in the box set, but now they do come in the box set so they don't sell them.

They used to sell space marine plasma guns that you could easily stick in the place of the grenade launcher, but they don't sell those anymore either.

On top of that, what used to be "Cadian Shock Troops" are now "Infantry Squads" and there's a totally new box for "Cadian Shock Troops".

What's the difference? Well the new Cadians take two special weapons and the new Infantry Squad only takes one, but they can take a heavy weapon.

So the only reason right now to use the infantry squad is if you're taking a heavy weapon as part of the team, other than that you're taking Cadian Shock Troops.

The meta for guard right now is basically 5/6 infantry squads max and then the rest is a variety of tanks. Artillery spam does OK but not great. Leman Russ wise the normal Battle Cannon is the best DPS (DPT? DPA?) but the good news is the new Russ kit comes with all the options and it's easy to magnetise.

Thanks! I might get another russ or that weird new dorn tank. Iv always liked the russ variants more than the standard.

Decorus posted:

There's a HH special weapons box with ten each of plasma and melta guns (as well as a bunch of other HH marine guns that don't matter for IG):

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-FI/legiones-astartes-special-weapons-upgrade-set-2022

They may require some minor converting to remove the built in power armor gauntlets, depending on how much you care about that sort of detail. For table top quality they can just be painted as gloves.

Tangy Zizzle posted:

lots of 3rd party suppliers sell special weapon variants, try anvil industries or bitsofwar.com etc

have you played 40k in 10+ years?


If you're a regular player - you know that meta will pass you by while you assemble your dudes (unless you buy a commission army)

If you're just getting back into it after a long time away or you're brand new - my advice is to buy and assemble what you think is cool, because eventually it will be meta

remember - all vehicles you can get parts for online, and you should magnetize as much as you can when building so you can get the most from your models. once you get the hang of it it's quite easy

enjoy man! welcome to the guard, son, etc

Ill check them out! Iv never played table top before, so I guess ill just stick to what I think is cool. Id really like to use my baneblade at some point. Back in the day weren't baneblades only allowed in apocalypse battles? and wasn't there some change that let you take them in normal fights now?

As a follow up question; are mixed armies allowed? Like Space Marines w/ Imperial guard. Iv been thinking about what regiment I want to paint/theme my guardsmen around and I really like the ultramar auxilla, and in the books Iv read they fight alongside the ultramarines and their successor chapters fairly often. Would be cool to have a predator or small squad of marines alongside my guardsmen.

Tangy Zizzle
Aug 22, 2007
- brad

Lady Militant posted:

Thanks! I might get another russ or that weird new dorn tank. Iv always liked the russ variants more than the standard.



Ill check them out! Iv never played table top before, so I guess ill just stick to what I think is cool. Id really like to use my baneblade at some point. Back in the day weren't baneblades only allowed in apocalypse battles? and wasn't there some change that let you take them in normal fights now?

As a follow up question; are mixed armies allowed? Like Space Marines w/ Imperial guard. Iv been thinking about what regiment I want to paint/theme my guardsmen around and I really like the ultramar auxilla, and in the books Iv read they fight alongside the ultramarines and their successor chapters fairly often. Would be cool to have a predator or small squad of marines alongside my guardsmen.

Yes you can take baneblades and variants in normal 40k games.

Most competitive/tourney games are at 2000 points, and that's generally what the game is 'balanced' at.

Mixed armies are not currently competitively allowed, but you can take some separate detachments with separate rules. For example, you can take a small 'Agents of the Imperium' detachment with your IG.

Check out https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/ for Astra Militarum (imperial guard) index cards (what units are legal, how they work, etc). Download the munitorum field manual for points values (these change periodically as GW balances the game, but rarely anything major), and you can even download the 10th edition rulebook! Become familiar with how it works!

Look around your area for gaming groups that might allow you to come and check out a gameday, or play a tutorial etc.

Feel free to PM with any other questions, or ask in the thread!

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

So a minor 40k lore question: do Inquisitors have some document, badge, or regalia that firmly establishes that they're an Inquistor (for times when they need that authority and aren't operating undercover, obviously), and what would it be?

e: nevermind, just needed to google a little harder -- i was looking for the Inquisitorial Rosette

It is the Rosette which the Eisenhorn/Ravenor series implies has quite a lot of data stored in it to verify their identity. It can also be a physical object but also a digital one.

It's also implied you can send a message to verify the rosette as genuine etc but it's a bit vague on how Inquisitors who are declared rogue are still able to use their rosettes. I think what's basically implied is that most people are too scared to say "OK well we sent an astropathic message all the way to the regional hub, I'm not going to follow your instructions for the minimum of 2 weeks to get a response" because you'll just be shot.

In the Eisenhorn vs Ravenor series Eisenhorn uses his rosette no problem and when Eisenhorn battles the chaos fallen Inquisitor who everyone thinks is dead his codes work 300 years after people thought he died.

Lady Militant posted:

Thanks! I might get another russ or that weird new dorn tank. Iv always liked the russ variants more than the standard.

As a follow up question; are mixed armies allowed? Like Space Marines w/ Imperial guard. Iv been thinking about what regiment I want to paint/theme my guardsmen around and I really like the ultramar auxilla, and in the books Iv read they fight alongside the ultramarines and their successor chapters fairly often. Would be cool to have a predator or small squad of marines alongside my guardsmen.

The Rogal Dorn is a cool model and rules wise is fairly good. It's basically just 1.5 Leman Russes in one. You can use baneblades in standard matches, it's not super competitive but I'm going to try using my Hellhammer at least once.

You can't field mixed armies anymore. It was not a thing, then it was a thing for a while but it was broken, so then they nerfed it, then just removed it entirely.

The exception to this is, as mentioned, Agent of the Inquisition and Chaos/Imperial Knights.

Kitchner fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Sep 26, 2023

Decorus
Aug 26, 2015
If you really want to mix in ordinary humans with marines, there are two ways to do it. Both are pretty limited:

1. A primarily space marine army with some human Imperial Agents mixed in. It allows you to get some light infantry to tag along with your marines, but no IG heavy weapons or vehicles. There are several different squad options, so it could be a fun conversion project to turn guardsmen into various specialist squads.

2. A primarily IG army with a couple of squads of Legions of the Damned space marines to hang around. The Damned Legionaries have Imperial Agents Legends rules, so some tournaments may ban them. They're somewhat inflexible Tactical marines with an invuln save, so hardly anything broken.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
3. Reject the false emperor and embrace your new allotment of allies

(release Emperor's Children GW you hacks I am sick of painting loyalists)

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Why yes, I would like to skewer my small jewel like objects of magic and wonder within a waffle maker storage case lined with silicone spikes.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/26/give-your-miniatures-a-better-saving-throw-with-the-forthcoming-stormvault-skirmish-case/

AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Sep 26, 2023

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

AndyElusive posted:

Why yes, I would like to skewer my small jewel like objects of magic and wonder within a waffle maker storage case lined with silicone spikes.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/26/give-your-miniatures-a-better-saving-throw-with-the-forthcoming-stormvault-skirmish-case/

I really need a better carrying solution than "hoping i packed a box tight enough that nothing will break"

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

My minis everytime I close the lid on the GW Stormvault Skirmish Case:

https://i.imgur.com/xI4IXNF.mp4

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

So, looking around me for places to play as I start priming and stuff like that outside of just heading to my local store and looking for games/posting on their discord, I found a place near me in Albany that does a monthly league. $5 per game, can play at 1k points, up to 4 times a month. Seems pretty reasonable!

They list needing to bring a 10th edition rulebook, which I guess I understand but I'd sort of think I can use an app and it looks like it's not required, and to bring my own Chapter Approved: Leviathan Mission Deck. As far as I can tell though, the latter is only sold as part of the giant leviathan starter set? I can pick one up for about $30 on Ebay, but I'm kind of wondering if I could just print them out instead or something because it seems like a little bit of a waste. It looks like they might have been sold on the GW website for a bit more of a mark up, but they're out of stock currently.

I assume that's generally common for events, since the games require the decks for missions? Do they change often? Trying to think if I should just buy an official one or print my own or something.. but I'm presuming at official events/tournaments you're required to have an official deck.

Edit: Obviously I'll ask the event runners for more details and stuff, but was curious how you guys handle the need for the mission cards I guess, and whether they need to be the official deck or not

Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Sep 26, 2023

rantmo
Jul 30, 2003

A smile better suits a hero



Weird Pumpkin posted:

They list needing to bring a 10th edition rulebook, which I guess I understand but I'd sort of think I can use an app and it looks like it's not required, and to bring my own Chapter Approved: Leviathan Mission Deck. As far as I can tell though, the latter is only sold as part of the giant leviathan starter set?

The decks are going up for pre-order this weekend, presumably without whatever printing error made them pull the first batch.

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

rantmo posted:

The decks are going up for pre-order this weekend, presumably without whatever printing error made them pull the first batch.

Ah ok, good to know. I guess I'll wait for that regardless since it'd be nice to not have a version with errors. Sounds like it's something I'll need to pick up though at least

rantmo
Jul 30, 2003

A smile better suits a hero



Weird Pumpkin posted:

Ah ok, good to know. I guess I'll wait for that regardless since it'd be nice to not have a version with errors. Sounds like it's something I'll need to pick up though at least

I mean, each game only needs one deck, it's not something where you have to bring your own.

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

rantmo posted:

I mean, each game only needs one deck, it's not something where you have to bring your own.

Oh... hmm... they specifically list that each person needs their own deck for this league thing. Just gonna have to ask the store running it I guess

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



The problem would be if two people got paired up that both didn't have the Leviathan mission deck so that's why they want everyone to bring it. Also if by Albany you mean Albany Oregon I live up the way outside of Portland feel free to not doxx yourself but my DMs are open, although that would be a bit of a drive for either of us.

Weird Pumpkin
Oct 7, 2007

tangy yet delightful posted:

The problem would be if two people got paired up that both didn't have the Leviathan mission deck so that's why they want everyone to bring it. Also if by Albany you mean Albany Oregon I live up the way outside of Portland feel free to not doxx yourself but my DMs are open, although that would be a bit of a drive for either of us.

Oh no, nowhere near actually, but thanks for the offer! I completely forgot I even put that in the post :v:

And that does make a lot of sense yeah

Weird Pumpkin fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Sep 27, 2023

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe
Man impcat is actually awesome. It doesn't have everything you could want (I'd like corsair voidscarred) but it has most of it or close enough and each model it has that I'm working with is a huge boon.

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Kitchner posted:

The Rogal Dorn is a cool model and rules wise is fairly good. It's basically just 1.5 Leman Russes in one. You can use baneblades in standard matches, it's not super competitive but I'm going to try using my Hellhammer at least once.

You can't field mixed armies anymore. It was not a thing, then it was a thing for a while but it was broken, so then they nerfed it, then just removed it entirely.

The exception to this is, as mentioned, Agent of the Inquisition and Chaos/Imperial Knights.

Awww that sucks. Im happy about bein able to use my baneblade, but I was hoping I could get some ultramarines or space marine tanks and use them with my guardsmen. Oh well.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Lady Militant posted:

Awww that sucks. Im happy about bein able to use my baneblade, but I was hoping I could get some ultramarines or space marine tanks and use them with my guardsmen. Oh well.

The rules still work if you want to play some allied units in a friendly. It's not gonna break the whole game open or anything; it's just not something you'd do in a Serious Face Serious Dice Serious Pants Competitive Game.

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Compared to the last time I was in this hobby (around 2010), Games Workshop has really upgraded its community presence and communication. It's impressive that warhammer-community.com has a new post almost every day. I can't think of many companies that do that. I do wonder how they balance what to put in White Dwarf and what to put online.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

It's mostly reveals and news that go on WarCom, not to mention brief rules previews of upcoming releases. Going by the previews of WD issues, the content there is a lot more meaty or hobby orientated

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/27/jump-pack-intercessors-kit-focus-blasting-a-classic-design-to-new-heights/

Kit focus for Assault Intercessors.

quote:

So don’t worry, Raven Guard players – your beakie helmets will work just fine.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
that sure is an assault squad

Stephenls
Feb 21, 2013
[REDACTED]

Cease to Hope posted:

that sure is an assault squad

I am mad about no lightning claws for the sergeant but otherwise content.

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.
Gonna be a situation like the original Intercessors where the sergeant only got their weapon options added to the datasheet as the chapter upgrade sprues came out.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

everyone give a big "yeah, RIP" to old man yelling at cloud as my old jump captain looks to no longer be a valid choice

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Spanish Manlove posted:

everyone give a big "yeah, RIP" to old man yelling at cloud as my old jump captain looks to no longer be a valid choice



Dunno, looks like a Jump Captain with Power Fist and Pistol of Your Choice to me

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



Plus who knows what the Wolf codex will bring!

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
I still have that shield captain from indomitus that I gave a jet pack and hammer. It's in my pile of shame waiting for the day I get everything else done.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007


Kind of interesting they managed to cram them into two sprues compared to the 3 for the Terminators and Sternguard. You'd have thought jump pack dudes would have been more of an important kit. In theory you're going to want way more jump assault dudes than sternguard.

It does make me laugh how much the design notes talked about how important it was to make them look like they weren't floating and weightless when they look exactly like that.

I guess we'll get the command squad tomorrow.

Virtual Russian
Sep 15, 2008

Hey those assault marines look great, I normally don't care for the new marine kits, but those are spot on. Good silhouette and not too busy.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
Quickish job finishing a Rhino with some amateur conversion worked I started a long, long, too long time ago. It's kinda goofy and quaint next to modern Death Guard stuff but it's mine.



smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
I'm working on some rhinos right now and hoping I can get them to look as good.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
I have a couple Rhinos with Forge World TSons upgrades which I probably need to do a lot of work on to be presentable.

rantmo
Jul 30, 2003

A smile better suits a hero



I finished assembling my Impulsor tonight, mostly. What the gently caress am I supposed to do with this stupid hover base thing? I understand that one half is for the base (which I have glued to said base) and the other half attaches to the underside of the vehicle but are you supposed to just attach them to their respective halves and then rotate it so that the thing isn't at some insane angle? It was a fun kit to assemble except for that one part, which is just baffling.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
I am praying that the whole 'no such thing as Primaris Captains anymore' in the new codex also extends ditching the primaris ban on rhinos.

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost
I hope my 8 year old rhino kit with babby's first green stuff work inspires people to finish and be proud of their own rhinos, or whatever it is you know you need to finish.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

hoiyes posted:

I am praying that the whole 'no such thing as Primaris Captains anymore' in the new codex also extends ditching the primaris ban on rhinos.

Yeah, gently caress it.

Gonna make some Primaris Tactical Squads by adding an Infernus and Desolation marine to 8 Intercessors, just to annoy people.

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