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Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.
I was not asked to make anything :colbert:

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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Nobody suggested you share

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Has anyone tried the prime brisket from smart and final? Their prices seem a bit better vs Costco and they had smaller ones in the $60 range vs Costco in the 80-90 range.

I can’t imagine it’s bad but would the Costco meat be that much better?

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

MarcusSA posted:

Has anyone tried the prime brisket from smart and final? Their prices seem a bit better vs Costco and they had smaller ones in the $60 range vs Costco in the 80-90 range.

I can’t imagine it’s bad but would the Costco meat be that much better?

prime is prime

my costco has only had USDA Choice lately :negative:

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Chad Sexington posted:

prime is prime

my costco has only had USDA Choice lately :negative:

Fair enough! That’s kinda what I figured.

Regret not getting the $60 cut but it’s only Monday lol I might go back on Friday and see what they have

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Smoking some chuck roasts and bone-in pork butts today. Haven't decided yet if I'm going to pull both roasts at 180 and save it all for chili this winter, or let one go to 205 and shred it.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Wrapped one of the chucks at 160 with some beef broth, left the other alone. Pulled both once wrapped hit 205 and the other was 180.





Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Triple post but idgaf :cool:

Butts finished close to 1am and were no match for my Kitchenaid with the dough hook.



HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
I <3 smoked meats

crondaily
Nov 27, 2006

Enos Cabell posted:

Triple post but idgaf :cool:

Butts finished close to 1am and were no match for my Kitchenaid with the dough hook.





You can post food porn anytime, thank you.

ZombieCrew
Apr 1, 2019

crondaily posted:

You can post food porn anytime, thank you.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



Enos Cabell posted:

Triple post but idgaf :cool:

Butts finished close to 1am and were no match for my Kitchenaid with the dough hook.





:eyepop: you can do THAT with a KitchenAid!?

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

I. M. Gei posted:

:eyepop: you can do THAT with a KitchenAid!?

Don’t stick your hand in the mixing bowl.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

I. M. Gei posted:

:eyepop: you can do THAT with a KitchenAid!?

Yeah, learning that you can shred meat in the stand mixer is a huge level up moment.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
It takes longer to haul my mixer out than it does to shred 10lbs of pork with a couple of forks but I’m all for getting more out of that $$$ investment.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Kaddish posted:

It takes longer to haul my mixer out than it does to shred 10lbs of pork with a couple of forks but I’m all for getting more out of that $$$ investment.

I'm surprised you can store it anywhere but on the counter

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

HootTheOwl posted:

I'm surprised you can store it anywhere but on the counter

I have so much kitchen crap we had to get a couple of wire racks to store stuff, it's on one of those. But I have to walk all the way to the other end of the kitchen to get it, c'mon man!

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

MrYenko posted:

Don’t stick your hand in the mixing bowl.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cw86KyXxtvj/

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Enos Cabell posted:

Kitchenaid with the dough hook.

I never thought of doing this. Thank's for the tip!

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Kilonum posted:

I never thought of doing this. Thank's for the tip!

I don't remember where I first saw it mentioned, but it's a total game changer.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Thermoworks is running a 25% off an item sale through today. I picked up a Signals kit to replace my old Smoke, more probes and wi-fi will be super nice to have.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?
To belatedly celebrate my birthday with my family back home, I decided to pack my vertical smoker into my ride and drive it 250km north.



Got 10 racks of ribs (I think the most I've ever crammed into the smoker so far was 8, this is gonna be relevant down the line), trimmed them a bit to fit


Post-trim results. Got a whole bunch of fat that I froze to cook out later for some quality fat, and a bunch of bite-sized trimmings to serve to my guests during the cook


Rubbed and vaccumed everything overnight. Mostly a convenience decision because I usually only rub a couple of hours before a cook, but I was bound by the time & logistics


Made some BBQ-sauce because you can't serve Germans cooked meats without offering them a condiment, so I made sure the condiment owns


Set up the smoker outside my parents' winter garden


Thoroughly enjoyed and abused the privilege of finally running my smoker the way it was meant to be used as opposed to my "fly under the radar on account of living in a residential area"-strategy
(the lines on the side are from the high-temp adhesive I used to insulate my smoker with steel wool last year, but I had to tear that off because a wooly-smoker obviously doesn't transport that well)


First issue encountered was the obvious one, layering 10 racks of ribs horizontally in this thing that usually handles horizontally-layered meat really well impeded the air circulation and temperature distribution


Some of the racks on the edges of the grated cooked a bit unevenly, but I managed to take care of that by rotating them around a bit on the grates. the bite-sized trimmings were done after about 2h and an excellent teaser


Ribs started to look promising after a bit of rotation:


My niece decided to fold me an Origami-parrot for my beer while she was waiting for food :3:


Parrot family started growing during the cook, and it even got an adopted bunny (far left beer)


Guests started gathering, adult drinks were consumed, so the inevitable outcome was to go a lil stupid with it


About 45 mins before food was served:


Guests were quite happy about the servings:



One of my nieces took some pics with TikTok-rear end filters that still don't look half bad





In other news, I've made a terribly-irrational purchase-decision to replace said thin-skinned vertical smoker with a hefty 120kg off-set stickburner that barely fits on my balcony and will probably end up getting me evicted and/or end up melting everything else on my balcony.


(to be continued)

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
The decision is only irrational because you can't travel with it otherwise you seem like you could use something that size.
Also it looks amazing

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
In personal news I plan to be smoking some chicken breasts and reduce some bbq sauce into a glaze.
The plan:
Rub the breasts
Smoke em
Pull at 165
Reduce sauce to glaze
Shred chicken in stand mixer
Apply glaze to chicken.
Put in oven at 350 for half an hour.
Have pulled chicken sandwiches for lunch Monday-Thursday

ZombieCrew
Apr 1, 2019

Ribs look great.
Love the origami.
What were the side dishes on the table?

qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES

HootTheOwl posted:

In personal news I plan to be smoking some chicken breasts and reduce some bbq sauce into a glaze.
The plan:
Rub the breasts
Smoke em
Pull at 165
Reduce sauce to glaze
Shred chicken in stand mixer
Apply glaze to chicken.
Put in oven at 350 for half an hour.
Have pulled chicken sandwiches for lunch Monday-Thursday

Pull therm well before 165 or you'll have some dry chicken.

You don't need to take breasts past 150 or 155 IMO. They will be perfectly safe to eat at lower temps and the product will be much better.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

I'm sorry but this picture is very funny to me. It's like the smoker just walked in on those other two slabs and smoke is shooting out of its ears

"SUSAN! WHO IS THIS?!"

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

qutius posted:

Pull therm well before 165 or you'll have some dry chicken.

You don't need to take breasts past 150 or 155 IMO. They will be perfectly safe to eat at lower temps and the product will be much better.

I pulled at 152 and I think I should have waited until 155 at least. I think I got some raw pieces that just mean I'll have to microwave when I eat the leftovers.

Lawnie
Sep 6, 2006

That is my helmet
Give it back
you are a lion
It doesn't even fit
Grimey Drawer

HootTheOwl posted:

I pulled at 152 and I think I should have waited until 155 at least. I think I got some raw pieces that just mean I'll have to microwave when I eat the leftovers.

They’re probably safe to eat as-is, but my experience with sous-vide chicken is that the texture is too firm and rubbery under 155*F, like it feels what you’d expect medium-rare chicken to feel like.

Dog Faced JoJo
Oct 15, 2004

Woof Woof

Just reading the words rare chicken give me salmonella. I'll cook every piece to 170 until I die (from not salmonella)

McSpankWich
Aug 31, 2005

Plum Island Animal Disease Research Center. Sounds charming.
That's some crazy overcooked chicken 170 dear Lord

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug
Thighs/drumsticks are best at like 180-185. White meat that high is absolutely disgusting though.

I pull white meat at like 145. Not a hint of pink left, and actually juicy and tender.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
I am now (sorta) a homeowner, and I am looking forward to seeing what unholy things I can do to my arteries with smoking meat.

No real update; that's all I have. Trying to decide what the next upgrade from the MES30 will be . . . . . .

I mean, I'm gonna keep the MES30 because I feel like I've figured out how to make some things in there quite well, but I could certainly use something with a bit more lateral space to let ribs and brisket stretch out a bit

ZombieCrew
Apr 1, 2019

Zarin posted:

I am now (sorta) a homeowner, and I am looking forward to seeing what unholy things I can do to my arteries with smoking meat.

No real update; that's all I have. Trying to decide what the next upgrade from the MES30 will be . . . . . .

I mean, I'm gonna keep the MES30 because I feel like I've figured out how to make some things in there quite well, but I could certainly use something with a bit more lateral space to let ribs and brisket stretch out a bit

If it were me, who also has an mes30, itd be a stickburner with a fireboard, but that gets pricey. Anything else probably wouldnt feel like much of a space upgrade.

But i also just got put on a cholesterol medication. Smoking red meats is gonna be a rarity for me now.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I went from an MES30 to a Char-Griller Gravity and couldn't be happier. Masterbuilt has gravity grills to choose from as well. Worth a look, IMO.

mls
Jun 6, 2006
You wanna fight? Why don't you stick your head up my butt and fight for air.

Zarin posted:

I am now (sorta) a homeowner, and I am looking forward to seeing what unholy things I can do to my arteries with smoking meat.

No real update; that's all I have. Trying to decide what the next upgrade from the MES30 will be . . . . . .

I mean, I'm gonna keep the MES30 because I feel like I've figured out how to make some things in there quite well, but I could certainly use something with a bit more lateral space to let ribs and brisket stretch out a bit

My plan when I moved into my new house this month was a masterbuilt gravity smoker, but due to not realistically having the time to smoke a lot I’m actually leaning towards the ninja woodfire oven which is basically a more compact MES that gets hotter for different cooking styles.

Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Doom Rooster posted:

Thighs/drumsticks are best at like 180-185. White meat that high is absolutely disgusting though.

I pull white meat at like 145. Not a hint of pink left, and actually juicy and tender.

The safety tables are actually time at temp. For 150 it’s like 3 minutes?

Anyway, if you get the meat close to 150 and it carries over a bit over a couple of minutes you’re probably good.

If you pull at 145 the carry over probably gets it to 150+ and it probably sits in that range for a few minutes before it starts dropping anyway.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug

Murgos posted:

The safety tables are actually time at temp. For 150 it’s like 3 minutes?

Anyway, if you get the meat close to 150 and it carries over a bit over a couple of minutes you’re probably good.

If you pull at 145 the carry over probably gets it to 150+ and it probably sits in that range for a few minutes before it starts dropping anyway.

Absolutely, but it’s also much more complicated than that. All of the time it spends above 135ish, it is killing bacteria, shortening time needed at higher temps. The tables showing time at temp are technically showing how long it would take at that temp if you were able to magically start it at that temp.

NOTE: In a restaurant setting, I 100% always follow proper food safety guidelines. It is only in my own home that I am willing to play a little more fast and loose.

If it takes 5 minutes to go from 135 to 150, you’re already most of the way there. Also, even if your meat peaks at 145, it’s still killing bacteria and becoming safer on the way back down to 135.

Bacterial load is also really the most important thing, just completely ridiculous to try to measure. Making up numbers, if a raw chicken breast has 150 million individual live Salmonella bacteria, and 15 million ends up being the number that your immune system can’t deal with, you become sick. If you kill off 95% through cooking, that leaves only 7.5 million, and you’re fine.

A piece of meat does not go from 100% totally going to make you sick, to 100% completely safe and bacteria-free the instant that the logarithmically correct time/temp combo is reached.

Further still, a majority of any bacterial load present, is most likely concentrated on the surface of the meat, which will be a much higher temperature than the core temp for the vast majority of the cook (unless you doing sous vide, of course).

It’s up to you to balance the risk of all of those factors against your preferred doneness.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

mls posted:

My plan when I moved into my new house this month was a masterbuilt gravity smoker, but due to not realistically having the time to smoke a lot I’m actually leaning towards the ninja woodfire oven which is basically a more compact MES that gets hotter for different cooking styles.

Oh wow that looks pretty cool if it works as advertised. Gotta do some research, because that could be perfect for me.

I found myself wanting a pellet smoker through this hot dry summer because I didn't want to be the guy who started the Great Fire of 2023, and watching my chimney starter belch forth embers gave me anxiety. But we're renting and I really don't want to invest $500-$1,000 into something that big only to have to move it.

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Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
I'm looking to upgrade from a spray bottle for putting apple juice/acv/etc. on during the cook.

I can't see any reason why this sprayer wouldn't be food-safe, especially if the liquid is in the tank for less than 24 hours and cleaned between uses:
https://www.amazon.com/Dewalt-190612-gal-Manual-Sprayer/dp/B09TB9TJSL

Anything I should be looking out for here?

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