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The thread got deleted because the hyperbole got a bit too much, but it got preserved on threadreader: behold, the saga of a coaster rapist.
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kazil posted:What are my pronouns? Sexy
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N. Senada posted:Sexy Then I do nothing. I've already won.
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Kit Walker posted:
Was Taro the same one that also made that dragon slayer beat em up that had ridiculously drawn female characters (but also some over the top male ones as well)?
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Panfilo posted:Was Taro the same one that also made that dragon slayer beat em up that had ridiculously drawn female characters (but also some over the top male ones as well)? No that was George Kamitani of Vanillaware
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Panfilo posted:Was Taro the same one that also made that dragon slayer beat em up that had ridiculously drawn female characters (but also some over the top male ones as well)? Dragon's Crown was a different guy
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Sep 27, 2023 17:57
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kazil posted:What are my pronouns? ey/em/eir
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Sep 27, 2023 18:00
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Dragon's Crown was a pretty fun game, but Kamitani responded to criticism of the female character designs by implying all the critics were gay which was really not a cool move. It's especially silly because all the people I know irl who enjoyed the game were queer, so...
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Sep 27, 2023 18:00
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china bot posted:You, extremely muscular and horny, your hair in an undercut, are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door. East South Open window Climb in window Initiate a cutscene where I fall head over heels for an NPC whose appearance and behaviour is designed to be as easy as possible for a male player of the target demographic to put themselves in the shoes of, but in an empowering way Get torch
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Sep 27, 2023 18:02
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Bobbie Draper and Camina Drummer are the best characters in The Expanse. I thought their story arcs were the most enjoyable character development in the show because they started out as "badass" meathead woman who fight and kill people and get loud with the male characters but then they become more and more important to the whole story by virtue of their relationships with other characters and their own complexity as people.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:06
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Otherwise, the answer is, and always has been, "it's complicated". There is currently a Twitter thread of women agreeing that their earliest crush was on fox-Robin in the animated Disney Robin Hood, and that he's still a major hottie. I think that movie is to furries as The Mummy with Brendan Fraser is to bisexuals.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the pelvic bones flamewar was from Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and not Xenoblade 2. thank you. Sorry. I, like the rest of history, forgot that "Idols, but SMT, but Fire Emblem" was a thing.
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Sep 27, 2023 18:08
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It's a very cringe game imo
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I didn't like it
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Other than vagina bones I think the main legacy of that game is how insanely terrible it sold even for a Wii U exclusive. 39,000 sales in Japan for a mainstream JRPG is rough.
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mycot posted:Other than vagina bones I think the main legacy of that game is how insanely terrible it sold even for a Wii U exclusive. 39,000 sales in Japan for a mainstream JRPG is rough. I think that was just the sales figure for the first month. Still not great, but not terrible either. It was kind of a weird game in the first place, given it was kind of a crossover between Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei, with a plot that centers around the entertainment industry. Absolutely niche appeal. The censorship was also kind of weird, but given that one of the chapters revolves around the subject of gravure, erotic modeling, I get why family-friendly Nintendo might want to tone it down for the US. Still, the original didn't have anything particularly explicit besides slightly more cleavage, characters talking about the fact that gravure exist, and some characters appearing in bikinis for a single scene. Doesn't help that the people freaking out about the censorship all sounded like lunatics
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ring ring ring ring ring ring ring vagina bones
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In whatever year Dragon's Crown came out, it was right before Otakon so the gaming room had it running on one of the big screens. I sat down to watch for a while and ended up next to a guy who kept loudly announcing the game would be cool if the characters weren't perverted and also implying it was illegal somehow. He finally left and a girl took his seat, got out a sketchbook, and immediately started drawing porn of the sorceress.
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Vanillaware ftw.
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https://twitter.com/lilianweng/status/1706544602906530000 AI is not therapy. Please don't use AI as therapy. Go to real therapy.
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SkeletonHero posted:In whatever year Dragon's Crown came out, it was right before Otakon so the gaming room had it running on one of the big screens. I sat down to watch for a while and ended up next to a guy who kept loudly announcing the game would be cool if the characters weren't perverted and also implying it was illegal somehow. He finally left and a girl took his seat, got out a sketchbook, and immediately started drawing porn of the sorceress. That guy is like 95% of goons
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kazil posted:https://twitter.com/lilianweng/status/1706544602906530000 Future Dystopia's are not blueprints! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YkPnwoYyE
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TinTower posted:The thread got deleted because the hyperbole got a bit too much, but it got preserved on threadreader: behold, the saga of a coaster rapist. Not sure what I was expecting from the descriptor "coaster rapist," but that certainly wasn't it. However, it is absolutely gross when people bring their jerking off into public where unconsenting people have to deal with it.
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OwlFancier posted:The Mummy with Brendan Fraser is to bisexuals. Weird way to spell "X-Files". 
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kazil posted:https://twitter.com/lilianweng/status/1706544602906530000 Never tried having a friend before but maybe this is it?
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re: strong female characters the stock given reason why Ripley and Sarah Conner are okay is because they're not "shoved in your face", but as others have mentioned this isn't a sincere argument and they just get used as examples because they're generally respectable and well liked. Terminator Dark Fate was a nothing movie but it was funny when people complained that Sarah was the main character and not John Conner, exposing themselves as posers.
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goblin week posted:That guy is like 95% of goons And the other 5% are that woman.
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Read After Burning posted:Weird way to spell "X-Files". I mean that is for slightly older bisexuals. The mummy came out in 1999 and X-files started 6 years earlier. So we are 24 years post the Mummy at this point.
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Read After Burning posted:Weird way to spell "X-Files". By bisexuals I mean me, I am bisexuals. Also yeah I was a little bit young for x files I think, never got into it at the time it was on.
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Fister Roboto posted:And the other 5% are that woman. 
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Kit Walker posted:Mai Shiranui? I haven't followed anything related to Smash in a long time and digging back into the discourse from around this was really frustrating. Lots of people talking past each other and lots of people doing the "wait, it's misogynistic to have sexy characters, but also misogynistic to exclude characters for being too sexy? We just can't win with you lefties!" thing. It certainly didn't help that both Bayonetta and Zero Suit Samus were included in the game, as they're both known for their titillating outfits. Though, hell, the discourse around Bayonetta herself is maddening. There's a whole swathe of people who can't seem to figure out that the issue people have isn't with sexy characters, it's with characters who exist to be eye candy and have literally nothing else going for them Cleretic posted:One of my favorite parts of this whole thing with Smash was when they added Pyra and Mythra from Xenoblade 2. They got some design tweaks to dial back the sexiness that were then added to Xenoblade 2 as alternate costumes, and even the Xenoblade fans agreed that the results were just straight-up better designs. And why was this decision made? Because ratings boards are different.  source Other examples: The ESRB states that a t rated game can't have advertising for an m rated game so that's why a bunch of mii costume trailers just had the characters' names instead of the game they're from like Devil May Cry, No More Heroes, DOOM or Skyrim. Elephant Ambush posted:Yeah thanks I get that but isn't Mai Shiranui like the perfect example of "sexy and nothing else"? Despite everything you'd expect from the fighting game genre; Characters don't think, have personalities, histories, or emotions. They are usually all characters who have more going on to them besides their designs. If you know any fighting game characters that aren't just a popular property made into a fighting game like Injustice, DBFZ, Granblue Fantasy Versus, Marvel vs Capcom, etc I'm sure you can come up with one character with a personality in it. Here's a Mai Shiranui thing: in KoF adventure- a game on sega saturn- Kyo Kusanagi hits on her and Mai doubles over laughing at him and then calls his girlfriend so she can laugh at him too.
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another oddball ratings board thing I remember was that a slot machine game was taken out of Pokemon Black/White because of changes in the legality of depicting fictional gambling in PEGI-rated games.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:another oddball ratings board thing I remember was that a slot machine game was taken out of Pokemon Black/White because of changes in the legality of depicting fictional gambling in PEGI-rated games. You're thinking of either Diamond/Pearl or HeartGold/SoulSilver, where the game corner slot machine was replaced with Voltorb Flip. I think from B/W onwards the gambling dens just stopped appearing outright.
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Voltorb Flip owned and should've been in every pokemon game since.
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mycot posted:re: strong female characters the stock given reason why Ripley and Sarah Conner are okay is because they're not "shoved in your face", but as others have mentioned this isn't a sincere argument and they just get used as examples because they're generally respectable and well liked. Terminator Dark Fate was a nothing movie but it was funny when people complained that Sarah was the main character and not John Conner, exposing themselves as posers. Dark Fate would have been significantly better if the two protags had been the way they were originally designed: a soldier going back in time to save the life of the woman she loved and sacrificing her life to do it, instead of the weird rear end "adopted mom and daughter" nonsense that got shoved in last minute because we can't have lesbians in our terminator media or what the gently caress ever
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RareAcumen posted:Despite everything you'd expect from the fighting game genre; Characters don't think, have personalities, histories, or emotions. They are usually all characters who have more going on to them besides their designs. If you know any fighting game characters that aren't just a popular property made into a fighting game like Injustice, DBFZ, Granblue Fantasy Versus, Marvel vs Capcom, etc I'm sure you can come up with one character with a personality in it. Video game characters have no personalities of their own. They say and do whatever the writers dictate. I'm also not sure how that instance of Mai acting like a stereotypical Mean Girl means anything. Her primary reason for existence is fan service and the thing I'm confused about and trying to learn is why that seems to be less of a problem in 2023 than it was in 2008 Up until the pandemic I had never seen anyone post things like "actually all these fan service characters are popular with women and also women now draw tons of fan service porn and that's awesome" and I'm confused by that. I'm not opposed to it and I'm not trying to criticize anyone or any group of people here. I'm trying to update my perspectives on this issue so that I don't continue to have ideas and opinions about women in media that are outdated by at least 15 years I'm sure that there's more than one reason for this and I wasn't expecting a simple answer and maybe this is the wrong place to ask but because the issue came up I thought I'd ask
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Bayonetta and Mai and 2B and other sexy game characters are first and foremost drawings made by horny (usually) men to embody what they find sexy. Any other deeper aspects of the characters that detract from that are solely us projecting our own view onto them. Is Bayonetta a super progressive anti religion and sex positive action hero? You can read it that way, but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day she's just Kamiya's dream woman.
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tokin opposition posted:so nice you posted twice
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