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lostleaf
Jul 12, 2009
Any mention of gamepass on the quest? They mentioned something about a year ago and its been silent since then.

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Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



lostleaf posted:

Any mention of gamepass on the quest? They mentioned something about a year ago and its been silent since then.

Yeah, they said this december I believe.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

who cares about GTA when they have heavy hitters like this

https://twitter.com/MetaQuestVR/status/1707093921560760741

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
I mean, having Office availability is kind of required if you want to use VR as a virtual office.

Leathal
Oct 29, 2004

wanna be like gucci?
lil buddy eat your vegetables
Lmao I remember a few years back when we were all hand wringing about how Facebook was buying all the VR studios (what’s the count now? 11?) and how this either meant FB was going to go full 90s Microsoft and lock everyone in to the Quest platform - or it was a necessary evil to save VR. Either way, there was a lot of dev talent cooking up the next generation of VR games under the Oculus Studios brand and it was just a matter of time before the floodgates opened.

Turns out Zuck just likes collecting game studios. One of those rich man hobbies I’ll never understand.

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022

Leathal posted:

Lmao I remember a few years back when we were all hand wringing about how Facebook was buying all the VR studios (what’s the count now? 11?) and how this either meant FB was going to go full 90s Microsoft and lock everyone in to the Quest platform - or it was a necessary evil to save VR. Either way, there was a lot of dev talent cooking up the next generation of VR games under the Oculus Studios brand and it was just a matter of time before the floodgates opened.

Turns out Zuck just likes collecting game studios. One of those rich man hobbies I’ll never understand.

I mean he did effectively scoop up those studios and they don't really release on other platforms do they? So they are trying to lock people into their platform...

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Nalin posted:

I mean, having Office availability is kind of required if you want to use VR as a virtual office.

No-one wants to do this though, why would you when normal monitors exist?

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Leathal posted:

Lmao I remember a few years back when we were all hand wringing about how Facebook was buying all the VR studios (what’s the count now? 11?) and how this either meant FB was going to go full 90s Microsoft and lock everyone in to the Quest platform - or it was a necessary evil to save VR. Either way, there was a lot of dev talent cooking up the next generation of VR games under the Oculus Studios brand and it was just a matter of time before the floodgates opened.

Turns out Zuck just likes collecting game studios. One of those rich man hobbies I’ll never understand.

I don’t understand why Meta doesn’t hire Dr Beef and his crew full time to create VR ports of classic shooter games. It’s literally money sitting on the proverbial table.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

repiv posted:

well Q3 pre-orders are up and valve hasn't made a move to get ahead of it

not holding my breath for deckard launching this year

Does Valve ever react to outside sources for anything? afaik they move at Valve time at all times. I don't think they give a poo poo about what Zuc and co are doing.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

KakerMix posted:

Does Valve ever react to outside sources for anything? afaik they move at Valve time at all times. I don't think they give a poo poo about what Zuc and co are doing.

https://vrscout.com/news/valve-index-official-debut/

quote:

In what can only be described as a giant middle finger to Oculus, Valve officially unveiled its highly-anticipated Valve Index VR headset earlier this morning, just ahead of the Facebook F8 developer conference.

they literally timed the index announcement to get in front of the original quest

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

repiv posted:

https://vrscout.com/news/valve-index-official-debut/

they literally timed the index announcement to get in front of the original quest

Facebook back then was serious about VR games.


Now you get Excel.

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

tango alpha delta posted:

I don’t understand why Meta doesn’t hire Dr Beef and his crew full time to create VR ports of classic shooter games. It’s literally money sitting on the proverbial table.

If you were Dr Beef what exactly would it take for you to entertain such an idea.

Do what you want, how you want, with a healthy support structure, or join Facebook and do what they say plus ???

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Because you KNOW "we'll pay your bills and compensate you better and more reliably than your Patreon/whatever... just keep doing you and give us first crack & non-sideloaded ports in exchange" ain't gonna be the deal.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

The Eyes Have It posted:

If you were Dr Beef what exactly would it take for you to entertain such an idea.

Do what you want, how you want, with a healthy support structure, or join Facebook and do what they say plus ???

Oh yeah, that’s a very good point. I think this is what contributed to John Carmack, the actual father of the first person shooter and head technical guy that created the Oculus, to leave Meta.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

njsykora posted:

No-one wants to do this though, why would you when normal monitors exist?

I mean, some people would probably like a whole bunch of screen space instead of their tiny 1080p 16" laptop display. Might also be able to do collaborative virtual meeting stuff through VR too.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


repiv posted:

they literally timed the index announcement to get in front of the original quest

Pretty sure they announced the Steam Deck a few days after Nintendo announced the Switch OLED too.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

tango alpha delta posted:

I don’t understand why Meta doesn’t hire Dr Beef and his crew full time to create VR ports of classic shooter games. It’s literally money sitting on the proverbial table.

Because they don’t want the original devs to sue them for copyright infringement and/or to pay them what they’d ask for rights, probably.

Chadzok
Apr 25, 2002

easy choice between q3 and hypothetical index 2 for an Australian, valve is apparently unaware that we exist and still does not ship any hardware here

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid

Chadzok posted:

easy choice between q3 and hypothetical index 2 for an Australian, valve is apparently unaware that we exist and still does not ship any hardware here

They bought fully into the, "Australia is a hoax!", conspiracy.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Kalman posted:

Because they don’t want the original devs to sue them for copyright infringement and/or to pay them what they’d ask for rights, probably.

AFAIK these are just the engines ported to VR and some of the original shareware content. You buy the old game and then copy the copy written game data to the Oculus. There’s no infringement that way.

Origami Dali
Jan 7, 2005

Get ready to fuck!
You fucker's fucker!
You fucker!
Is the difference between 95 degrees fov vs 110 really noticeable?

MeatRocket8
Aug 3, 2011

Thats cool that you don't need to draw the borders with the Quest 3, it just detects stuff.

Imagine adult content that utilizes the mixed reality. Have a couple beautiful models lying on your bed. Why not.

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022
Edit: gently caress wrong thread

Kwolok fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Sep 28, 2023

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid

Origami Dali posted:

Is the difference between 95 degrees fov vs 110 really noticeable?

While it's only like 15%, it's a lot when you are on the edge of tolerable.

I'm hoping it's less of peering into a game through binoculars and more like the Index wearing ski goggles feeling. Index is like 120-130 though so a huge difference still.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Gamepass on Quest going to be cloud gaming I assume?

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

ChocNitty posted:

Thats cool that you don't need to draw the borders with the Quest 3, it just detects stuff.

Imagine adult content that utilizes the mixed reality. Have a couple beautiful models lying on your bed. Why not.

There was a demo showing basically this from AntiZero's twitter account some time ago. Don't know how it plays out, but it makes a good video.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

tango alpha delta posted:

AFAIK these are just the engines ported to VR and some of the original shareware content. You buy the old game and then copy the copy written game data to the Oculus. There’s no infringement that way.

There’s zero possibility Meta’s interested in paying for that, though.

(Also, the “there’s no infringement” is overstating the case. There’s not clear enough infringement to be worth going after a random dude’s Patreon income. If it’s Meta’s pockets, it’s a different calculus.)

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


lol quest 3 elite strap is 95$ Canadian.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Chadzok posted:

easy choice between q3 and hypothetical index 2 for an Australian, valve is apparently unaware that we exist and still does not ship any hardware here

EB Games has imported several batches of Index hardware, to be fair

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Oxyclean posted:

lol quest 3 elite strap is 95$ Canadian.

If I get one of these (mostly depends if/what Valve annouces this year), it's 3D printed DAS adapters again.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I'm curious to hear if existing Quest 2 stuff is compatible in terms of at least attaching, but I'm not super confident on having to get holes made for the ports, cause I'm fairly happy with my kiwi strap.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


SCheeseman posted:

If I get one of these (mostly depends if/what Valve annouces this year), it's 3D printed DAS adapters again.

I just noticed they're still selling them new and they're only $50 now.

Extremely Penetrated
Aug 8, 2004
Hail Spwwttag.
Such a poo poo presentation but I preordered anyway. Last thing I used was a Rift CV1, so it'll be a decent upgrade, and I'm looking forward to catching up on decent titles. What's the thread rec for a casual exploration/puzzler? We were too stupid for Obduction.

Mischievous Mink
May 29, 2012

Republicans posted:

I just noticed they're still selling them new and they're only $50 now.

Wow that's a compelling price. I might go ahead and snap one up.

Leathal
Oct 29, 2004

wanna be like gucci?
lil buddy eat your vegetables

tango alpha delta posted:

AFAIK these are just the engines ported to VR and some of the original shareware content. You buy the old game and then copy the copy written game data to the Oculus. There’s no infringement that way.

Yeah but no way is Meta going to sell that sort of thing. They seem to have a good relationship with MS so maybe they can license Doom and Wolfenstein but stuff like Jedi Knight is obviously never getting the green light.

Now I’m imagining them hiring the team behind the Morrowind VR port and licensing out an official VR remaster with their AI voice tech and proper combat mechanics. :gizz:

ChocNitty posted:

Imagine adult content that utilizes the mixed reality. Have a couple beautiful models lying on your bed. Why not.

This basically already exists in video form but should get much better thanks to the Q3 passthrough. Porn is at the bleeding edge of this stuff, as always.

The VR porn studios have been slowly iterating on the passthrough concept since the Pro’s release. Haven’t checked in a bit, but I think at this point they’re filming in a full green screen environment and have the dude in a green screen suit with just his dick poking out lol. Idk if there’s any SFW clips out there but it’s extremely Blade Runner 2049ish.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Leathal posted:

The VR porn studios have been slowly iterating on the passthrough concept since the Pro’s release. Haven’t checked in a bit, but I think at this point they’re filming in a full green screen environment and have the dude in a green screen suit with just his dick poking out lol. Idk if there’s any SFW clips out there but it’s extremely Blade Runner 2049ish.

Those are pretty rare, because having a dedicated studio and doing a full CGI enviroment to then add in is a lot more expensive than renting some rich person's beach house to film for a day.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



explosivo posted:

Gamepass on Quest going to be cloud gaming I assume?

Yes

Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

Chadzok posted:

easy choice between q3 and hypothetical index 2 for an Australian, valve is apparently unaware that we exist and still does not ship any hardware here

The fact that we have strong consumer refund laws, cost an exorbitant amount of money to ship to, and don't have the grace to be a large market like the EU, all combines to make me believe that we are never seeing a Steam Deck release here certainly, let alone any other Valve hardware.

Anyway, I've been limping along with my Quest 1 for ages with some money set aside for eventually buying a new headset, figured there was no point upgrading until I had a better sense of whether theQuest 3 was going to be a notable upgrade over the Quest 2 or Pico 4 or not.
Seeing some of the previews after this round of media hands-on events was enough to convince me to fork out for the drat thing. I think the mixed reality functionality is going to be criminally underutilised and I don't think Meta have demonstrated any real sort of killer app for the headset, but also I don't know why I'm pretending that I'm not just going to sink 100s of hours into Walkabout Minigolf VR with it anyway.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Didn't Gaben move to New Zealand and do a big thing showing off Valve hardware? I'm aware NZ is not Australia, but I would've thought it would be close enough and be sold in both by now.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Sep 28, 2023

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Chadzok posted:

easy choice between q3 and hypothetical index 2 for an Australian, valve is apparently unaware that we exist and still does not ship any hardware here
I have a friend in Sydney who's really annoyed about this. Next time I got visit him I might just stick an Index and a Steam Deck in my carryon for him.

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