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I reread Under The Dome, and I really enjoy the book. It's some of my favorite King, so I decided to watch some of the show. I do not recommend that.
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MNIMWA posted:just started Book 7 of the Dark Tower. why oh why did king feel the need to have Mordred born with a boner, and for Mia to be overcome with motherly love that she kisses it I mean on one hand, oh yeah I forgot about that I must have blocked it out. But on the other hand, oh yeah I forgot about that, I must have blocked that out, and that that level of uncomfortable for comfortable sake isn't all that surprising. In a way, it's impressive how unsettling that scene is with nothing more than a bit of TLC
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Sep 29, 2023 02:06
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King pulls poo poo like that all the time. "The evil demon lady kissed her demon baby's spider boner" is like mid tier gross King bullshit.
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Sep 29, 2023 02:21
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My dudes have you read IT and 3 specific pages out of the 1100 page book?
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Sep 29, 2023 03:26
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oldpainless posted:My dudes have you read IT and 3 specific pages out of the 1100 page book? Yeah, yeah. It's the loving worst. But he was on coke and whatever else then. He shat out the spider boner tonguing while presumably sober.
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Sep 29, 2023 03:37
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Leave posted:I reread Under The Dome, and I really enjoy the book. It's some of my favorite King, so I decided to watch some of the show. The book might have made a good miniseries but trying for a multi season plot just didn’t work from the start. That and the obvious windows phone advertisements
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Sep 29, 2023 05:22
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Leave posted:I reread Under The Dome, and I really enjoy the book. It's some of my favorite King, so I decided to watch some of the show. Glad to find other champions of the book. Many years ago now, when I first got into King, I looked up random Google lists of his Must Reads and many said The Stand was his best book ever. I enjoyed parts of it for sure but it drags so much more for me than IT or Under the Dome. I'm not even sure why but I don't think I'll ever get through The Stand again in full but I can easily see me getting a hankering for Under the Dome again in a year or two.
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Sep 29, 2023 05:35
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Under the Dome depressed the poo poo out of me. Stuff he came up with to make points about Bush and Cheney has become way too real in the meantime. It also reinforces me never wanting to live in a small town.
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Sep 29, 2023 06:54
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escape artist posted:Yeah, yeah. It's the loving worst. But he was on coke and whatever else then. To be fair he may have been on the painkillers. I mean that doesn't justify it but I know he had a brief (?) "painkillers are great weeeee" period after what was, you know, a pretty damaging accident.
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Sep 29, 2023 10:41
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Casimir Radon posted:Under the Dome depressed the poo poo out of me. Stuff he came up with to make points about Bush and Cheney has become way too real in the meantime. It also reinforces me never wanting to live in a small town. Listen here, you cotton-picker, we all support the team
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Sep 29, 2023 12:37
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lines posted:To be fair he may have been on the painkillers. I mean that doesn't justify it but I know he had a brief (?) "painkillers are great weeeee" period after what was, you know, a pretty damaging accident. Ah, that's true. My knowledge of his drug use is mostly limited to what he describes in On Writing. And I don't remember that part, so much as the blow and the image of his wife emptying the trash of his paraphernalia. Maybe time for a re-read.
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Sep 29, 2023 14:07
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I think he was on the booze, gave up booze, got into blow + other 80s drugs, gave up blow, stayed sober until his accident and then ended up quite dependent on opiates for a period of time, then managed to kick them again and as far as I'm aware has been sober since. But I'm not sure on the precise timescales.
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Sep 29, 2023 14:24
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It's really easy to figure out what King was on while writing. Just look at all the medications that get namedropped. Percodans, percodans...
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Sep 29, 2023 14:26
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lines posted:I think he was on the booze, gave up booze, got into blow + other 80s drugs, gave up blow, stayed sober until his accident and then ended up quite dependent on opiates for a period of time, then managed to kick them again and as far as I'm aware has been sober since. But I'm not sure on the precise timescales. Pretty sure he was on booze and coke at the same time at some point. Remember some story he told where he was talking about having a trash bin full of empty beer bottles and bloody tissues or some such.
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Sep 29, 2023 14:28
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dr_rat posted:Pretty sure he was on booze and coke at the same time at some point. Remember some story he told where he was talking about having a trash bin full of empty beer bottles and bloody tissues or some such. Oh yeah I get the impression that when he falls off the wagon, he really goes for it.
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Sep 29, 2023 14:36
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Kings description in the Shining of alcoholism and the wagon is a passage I always really liked.
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Sep 29, 2023 14:50
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oldpainless posted:Kings description in the Shining of alcoholism and the wagon is a passage I always really liked. I knew he had specifically addressed the wagon but I couldn't remember which book. Here it is: quote:Few men ever return from the fabled wagon. But those who do come with a fearful tale to tell. When you jump on, it seems like the brightest, most cleanest wagon you ever saw. With ten foot wheels to keep the bed high out of the gutter where all the drunks are laying around, with their brown bags, and thunderbird, and popskull bourbon. You're away from all the people who throw you nasty looks, and tell you to clean up your act, or to go put in on in a different town. From the gutter, that's the finest looking wagon you ever saw. All hung with bunting, and a brass band in front, and three Rockettes on each side, twirling their batons and flashing their panties at you. Man, you got to get on that wagon and away from the juicers who are straining canned heat and sniffing their puke to get high again, poking around the gutter for butts with half an inch left above the filter...
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Sep 29, 2023 14:53
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drat but the man could turn a phrase when he put his mind to it.
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Sep 29, 2023 15:42
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Philippe posted:drat but the man could turn a phrase when he put his mind to it. Detta Walker posted:"You ain't jack poo poo! You suck yo' ka-daddy's cock while you diddle yo' fuckfinger up his poop-chute and thass all you good fo'!" Poetry, not prose.
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Sep 29, 2023 16:12
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It's a volume business and he's a volume shooter. Sometimes you're gonna put an airball up there.
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Sep 29, 2023 16:31
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mdemone posted:It's a volume business and he's a volume shooter. Sometimes you're gonna put an airball up there. Please stop discussing my career in pornography
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Sep 29, 2023 18:23
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dr_rat posted:Pretty sure he was on booze and coke at the same time at some point. Remember some story he told where he was talking about having a trash bin full of empty beer bottles and bloody tissues or some such. Booze and coke go hand in hand. They actually form a more toxic compound, cocaethylene, in the liver, when consumed together. Ever seen the "don't do coke in the bathroom" sign at a bar?
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Sep 29, 2023 19:05
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escape artist posted:They actually form a more toxic compound, cocaethylene, in the liver, when consumed together.  Remind me not to do coke ever again (only 1.5 times when I was young and stupid)
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Sep 29, 2023 21:40
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escape artist posted:I fooled around with it in high school but got bored of it, and then got repulsed by it when I saw how it made people I'd previously respected act. This was two decades ago, so long before fentanyl made it even loving dumber I'm part of that brief window between Gen X and Millenials to see and remember Len Bias at the exact perfect time to say "woah, no coke for me thanks"
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Sep 30, 2023 04:01
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Pretty sure cocaine was good for you in the 80's before they moved to the new recipe with the high fructose corn syrup and what not. 90's kids got screwed over once again 
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If King could go back and redo the final 3 Dark Tower books as the "True" version, would you want it be King pre-accident or King now?
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Sep 30, 2023 23:35
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I've started listening to hte podcast Just King Things - it's good!
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Diabetic posted:If King could go back and redo the final 3 Dark Tower books as the "True" version, would you want it be King pre-accident or King now? Obviously pre-accident King, with a healthy helping of pre-sobriety King meanness thrown in.
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escape artist posted:I fooled around with it in high school but got bored of it, and then got repulsed by it when I saw how it made people I'd previously respected act. This was two decades ago, so long before fentanyl made it even loving dumber I've done it quite a few times but I don't have an addictive personality and I don't really like it. It just makes me way too confident, and I only used it as a super caffeine for all nights when I lived the DJ/bar lifestyle. I still see so many I know that are completely hooked on it mentally, and it's really sad. If you put a keyboard in front of me while on one of my alcohol/coke all-nighters, I could definitely see how I would think some of the ridiculousness he came up with was a great idea. You pretty much always think what you do is the best idea ever.
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Oct 1, 2023 02:19
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I'd say I want King from "before he got too big for editors."
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Oct 1, 2023 03:53
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Mat Cauthon posted:Obviously pre-accident King, with a healthy helping of pre-sobriety King meanness thrown in. I've never seen it phrased that way before, but I like it; King's old stuff, on occasion, is just fuckin mean. I think that's part of why Desperation clicks with me; God is cruel, and pre-accident King taught me that.
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Leave posted:I've never seen it phrased that way before, but I like it; King's old stuff, on occasion, is just fuckin mean. I think that's part of why Desperation clicks with me; God is cruel, and pre-accident King taught me that. Yeah, I think he's very good at having a good Character doing all the right and smart things get killed and for it not to feel cheap, or like it was done for shock value, but more just the character was living in a mean world and well poo poo just happens sometimes. Probably goes without saying but man would it suck to live in pretty much any Stephen King book.
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Cross post from the IIMM thread: In IT: Chapter One, a couple things. Was there a deleted scene or something that revealed how Eddie's cast was signed the way it was? The pharmacist lady I guess wrote "LOSER" on it and then, later, it's changed to "LOVER" with a big red "V". Maybe I missed it on a bathroom break. Or is it just implied that Eddie changed it himself off screen? For some reason, my memory of it before re-watching it last night was that Beverly put the "V" on it Also, Beverly murdered her abusive father in self defense and at the end of the film we learn she's going to love with her aunt. Wouldn't there be a police investigation of some sort? We're never really shown what happens to the body or any of the aftermath there. I know it's Derry but a 13 year old girl murdering her dad would have consequences I think. E Side note: I enjoyed this write up if the movie that I found https://mbird.com/film/from-losers-to-lovers-how-it-chapter-one-takes-us-to-church/
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Diabetic posted:If King could go back and redo the final 3 Dark Tower books as the "True" version, would you want it be King pre-accident or King now? Wizard and Glass era King, imo.
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Oct 1, 2023 13:30
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BiggerBoat posted:Cross post from the IIMM thread: I remember Bev changing it to "Lover" as well
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Leave posted:I've never seen it phrased that way before, but I like it; King's old stuff, on occasion, is just fuckin mean. I think that's part of why Desperation clicks with me; God is cruel, and pre-accident King taught me that. That mean stretch around 1996 was definitely real. See also the end of The Green Mile (Paul's ending, not John's)
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Oct 1, 2023 16:10
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joepinetree posted:I'd say I want King from "before he got too big for editors." This is the right answer, tbh. Khizan posted:Wizard and Glass era King, imo. Wizard & Glass is top 3 King for me, maybe my favorite of all time, but I think by that point you can already see the seeds of some of the more maudlin tendencies that become more pronounced in books 5-7. W&G strikes the right balance in a way that much of his post-accident era stuff doesn't. The tragedy of what happens to Susan and Roland and how that reflects so much of the suffering yet to come for Roland and his ka-tets is so effective because it is just so loving mean. Even Gan the turtle is just like "sacrifice and forego anything and everything to do your duty or die knowing your failure means the death of everything". hosed up. Leave posted:I've never seen it phrased that way before, but I like it; King's old stuff, on occasion, is just fuckin mean. I think that's part of why Desperation clicks with me; God is cruel, and pre-accident King taught me that. I mean, all his early stuff has that edge going back to Carrie and Salem's Lot and you see flashes of it throughout the various eras but the 80's run is just brutal. Pet Sematary, Dark Half, Christine, Thinner, Misery, all the short stories. The vibe is very much old testament god, no one gets away clean or unscathed, "your fate is your fate AND the best you can hope for is that your suffering will not be meaningless". Which IMO is exactly the subtext of the finale of the Dark Tower series but it loses a lot of the punch because of how it gets there. Which, you know, can't begrudge the guy for having a very different perspective after overcoming serious addiction and nearly dying and being in the public eye for like half a century. It's a miracle that he has anything left to give at all. But the absence of that mean streak, the anger, the excoriating and unforgiving eye on the actions of characters, change a lot. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 1, 2023 |
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Davros1 posted:I remember Bev changing it to "Lover" as well OK so I'm not crazy then. But YT and searching for the scene seem to suggest I imagined that. Maybe I'm remembering the book.
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Newer King can have a weird edge to it too. The last bit of Revival felt very old King to me.
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