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RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Never again must I complete another Ella Musk commission.

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Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

RareAcumen posted:

Never again must I complete another Ella Musk commission.

Pretty sure you'll have to eventually to get the cycle to roll over? Otherwise it will just spam her forever.

Tampa Bae
Aug 23, 2021

Please, this is all I have

RareAcumen posted:

Never again must I complete another Ella Musk commission.
They didn't bother me until I realized that the character was named for a lame-rear end elon musk fan roleplaying as his fictional daughter on twitter

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Tampa Bae posted:

They didn't bother me until I realized that the character was named for a lame-rear end elon musk fan roleplaying as his fictional daughter on twitter

remember when Mihoyo tried to do one of those twitter follower goals with that account and the 'rewards' were having elon stream genshin impact and getting elon to tour mihoyo's hq? As if the playerbase was going to give a flying poo poo about that, lmao

serefin99
Apr 15, 2016

Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

Boat Stuck posted:

Being able to substitute world quests and exploration for daily commissions is a game changer.

I got my first taste of this by accident today. Went to go start the new event and just that alone filled up a bar and a half of the points thingy, and completing the actual event challenge filled up two whole bars.

I'm not sure if I'll be able to go back to be honest.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Tree Reformat posted:

Pretty sure you'll have to eventually to get the cycle to roll over? Otherwise it will just spam her forever.

Tampa Bae posted:

They didn't bother me until I realized that the character was named for a lame-rear end elon musk fan roleplaying as his fictional daughter on twitter

I am celebrating that I will never have to deal with any of the long-winded quests ever again. No more putting ham on Dragonspine or delivering food to Windrise or going all the way to Dawn Winery to fight those slimes, and all the other obnoxious ones. I don't mind them if they're right next to a teleporter and they just want me to blow up some enemies.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Garrand posted:

remember when Mihoyo tried to do one of those twitter follower goals with that account and the 'rewards' were having elon stream genshin impact and getting elon to tour mihoyo's hq? As if the playerbase was going to give a flying poo poo about that, lmao

I try not to

Real Cool Catfish
Jun 6, 2011

Garrand posted:

remember when Mihoyo tried to do one of those twitter follower goals with that account and the 'rewards' were having elon stream genshin impact and getting elon to tour mihoyo's hq? As if the playerbase was going to give a flying poo poo about that, lmao

Completely missed this. Amazing.

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

RareAcumen posted:

I am celebrating that I will never have to deal with any of the long-winded quests ever again. No more putting ham on Dragonspine or delivering food to Windrise or going all the way to Dawn Winery to fight those slimes, and all the other obnoxious ones. I don't mind them if they're right next to a teleporter and they just want me to blow up some enemies.

I feel like you're vastly underestimating the amount of dead periods where you won't have any quests or events to do. What do you intend to do for the other half of a patch with nothing, mark chests and open a few a day?

Unless it accepts a lot of things they didn't list in the tooltip, it seems markedly worse than the starrail one. There, your daily options all basically boil down to, "spend stamina." It overlaps a ton with the battlepass stuff, and it works out quite nicely. This seems far less helpful; even if you did stretch out the world/patch quests, and only did an event stage when it unlocks, that still leaves you with plenty of time where you're going to have to do all four commissions instead of picking and choosing.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Boat Stuck posted:

Being able to substitute world quests and exploration for daily commissions is a game changer.
I do want to warn that we don't know yet how this system will interact with the commission cycle system. If you use commission points to replace Floral Fresh you may still get the same commission the next day/not exhaust it from your Mondstadt pool for that cycle, meaning that skipping it repeatedly will wall you on commission achievement progress because you'll just keep getting Floral Fresh eventually. If you don't care that's fine do it. For now I'm only using points to replace standard commissions rather than the special max one per day type until we find out how it works.

rio
Mar 20, 2008

I usually skip the web events but saw this one had player stats. Is there some benefit to sharing the thing at the end (I assume so since I saw a bunch shared here). This is mine, if it is something worth sharing https://hoyo.link/6SWeFCAL?m_code=GB1RB2ZK6N&pk=1&utm_source=game&utm_medium=html&utm_campaign=pkshare

Edit: I guess I’m a Neuvilette haver now. I got an early 5 star weapon but it was Skyward Pride. Just did another 10 pull today and it was Neuvilette’s book…I just want a Homa please Hoyo it’s been years. So I spite pulled him to use his weapon, originally thinking I would skip him because my only built shielder is Diona.

Funny thing is the same thing happened with Ayato, and then Nilou. Both of them I got the wrong 5 star so spite pulled the character even though I was originally going to skip them. One more time and I can have a full team of characters I spite pulled.

rio fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 29, 2023

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Neuv C1 is a bitch! His best teammate by FAR will be furina and his C1 is a 28% charged attack dps increase in double hydro comps!!! My only consolation is that you can realistically swirl other enemy's elements even off of yourself letting kazuha sneak around the 3 reaction type requirement for Neuvillette. I just need to belueve in this cope until his banner ends.

Danakir
Feb 10, 2014

No Wave posted:

Neuv C1 is a bitch! His best teammate by FAR will be furina and his C1 is a 28% charged attack dps increase in double hydro comps!!! My only consolation is that you can realistically swirl other enemy's elements even off of yourself letting kazuha sneak around the 3 reaction type requirement for Neuvillette. I just need to belueve in this cope until his banner ends.

It needs to be an hydro reaction to count. So only hydro swirls would count for Neuvillette's passive.

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one
Isn't the sacrificial jade catalyst going to be annoying to use on Neuvillette? All things being equal he should be taking up more field time than 10s if you are chaining his skill/burst in sequence. Unless you are using some weapon with a specific limitation.

I have two r5 proto ambers and an r5 favonius codex I could use on Neuv. I think I'll go with the favonius codex because it fits Neuvillette's style, no one else needs it, and meeting his ER requirements seems a lot more useful than chasing bigger numbers. Admittedly an r5 proto amber eases ER requirements by a decent amount while also providing HP%.

Danakir
Feb 10, 2014

Sanctum posted:

Isn't the sacrificial jade catalyst going to be annoying to use on Neuvillette? All things being equal he should be taking up more field time than 10s if you are chaining his skill/burst in sequence. Unless you are using some weapon with a specific limitation.

His ideal rotation should look something like Team Setup > Burst > Charge Attack > Skill > Charge Attack > Team Setup > Charge Attack > Skill (> optional Charge Attack depending on how things line up)

The R5 Proto will do more to ease his personal ER requirements than Fav, Fav is only best if other people on the team badly need the energy.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Zenostein posted:

I feel like you're vastly underestimating the amount of dead periods where you won't have any quests or events to do. What do you intend to do for the other half of a patch with nothing, mark chests and open a few a day?

Unless it accepts a lot of things they didn't list in the tooltip, it seems markedly worse than the starrail one. There, your daily options all basically boil down to, "spend stamina." It overlaps a ton with the battlepass stuff, and it works out quite nicely. This seems far less helpful; even if you did stretch out the world/patch quests, and only did an event stage when it unlocks, that still leaves you with plenty of time where you're going to have to do all four commissions instead of picking and choosing.

Yeah, I dont get why they just dont go with a SR like system in genshin. Its really disappointing logging in and having these poo poo story quests that I dont want to do for a daily and already having scoured the world for treasures or no event running concurrently. It also doesnt feel good to find things in the overworld and having to open them when your daily count is already done because those are free skips of bullshit dailies.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Danakir posted:

It needs to be an hydro reaction to count. So only hydro swirls would count for Neuvillette's passive.
Yes, but kazuha could apply electro (for example) by swirling it off of himself/an enemy then letting you get the electro charged tick in a 2hydro+anemo+geo comp. And ofc the more obvious example of applying frozen to a cryo slime (even if it doesnt freeze them). This should actually happen quite a lot tbh.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

I mean the new system is definitely a step in the right direction, they just need to expand the system and add evergreen content options like "take a photo", "cook a recipe", "complete X artifact domains" and all that jazz

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I don't like that you can't bank it for the next day. I don't know how much I'll be playing genshin any given day and doing dailies first just makes sense, letting you use today's chests tomorrow (and tomorrow only) would make it feel a lot better.

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Cao Ni Ma posted:

Yeah, I dont get why they just dont go with a SR like system in genshin. Its really disappointing logging in and having these poo poo story quests that I dont want to do for a daily and already having scoured the world for treasures or no event running concurrently. It also doesnt feel good to find things in the overworld and having to open them when your daily count is already done because those are free skips of bullshit dailies.

I mean HSR also occasionally gives me goals like "fight a weekly boss" or "do a round of SU" or "do forgotten halls" which I don't look forward to when I've already completed my weekly obligations of those places.

I'm sure they will refine the system going forward to fit genshin's style of gameplay. these sorts of things are rarely perfect from day one.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



The advantage of every single one of those is that you can run them on auto at a lower difficulty if you just want to get them over with ASAP, they dont even take a minute unattended. Which is not something you can do in Genshin.

haypliss
Oct 2, 2022
You cannot auto SU in a meaningful way, and HSR has the wrinkle that completing stamina-related activities always takes stamina. Genshin will record tasks that you complete without actually using stamina to redeem rewards on, which can be nice.

I'd prefer closer to HSR's system but yeah they haven't perfected any version of this yet.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

I auto SU on the hardest difficulties every week

darkgray
Dec 20, 2005

My best pose facing the morning sun!
For the SU one, you only need to finish one "room", so that's doable in like a minute followed by quitting, and for Forgotten Halls you can simply pick the very first stage and beat everything instantly with a single opening attack, since the enemies are 50 levels below you.
The weekly boss one is a bit more annoying, I suppose.

As previously mentioned, I also find myself leaving Genshin chests unopened, so I don't "use up" all my future free dailies. :(

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

Boy this archon quest takes forever.

Did a joke 10-pull on Neuvillette's banner, not that I'm that keen on getting him but I figured why not and got Dehya, the only standard 5-star I hadn't gotten yet. Sure is a shame she sucks because she's sort of fun to play. Then again it's a nice change from steamrolling every bit of content with my other characters so there's some value in using her in a melt team.

Also leveled up a Favonius Greatsword for her and I never knew how cool it looks fully done, most weapons just get a bit more colorful but the inner part of the blade on that one turns black which looks really nice.

darkgray posted:

As previously mentioned, I also find myself leaving Genshin chests unopened, so I don't "use up" all my future free dailies. :(

Yeah I see what they were going for and it's nice on paper but I'm constantly gating myself from exploring more in order to do it in bits. Decided today that I'm just going to start doing the quests again and explore whenever and how much I feel like exploring instead.

Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Sep 29, 2023

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


I guess i don’t see a meaningful difference between autobattling something trivial and hunting down some hilichurls because it takes about the same time.

but i think my experience is colored by my time with azur lane which i quit after realizing that despite playing that game for two years i didn’t actually play it for over a year.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Its not the hunt quests that bother me in genshin. Its having to talk to an idiot for for the same story quest I've done 50 times already. Oh my loving flower why wont it grow aboo aboohoohoo. That and the escort ones.

Like I mentioned already, I dont like doing them in HSR either, despite the text and animations being way faster than genshin. I would love to see the metrics of HSR on the people doing the talking dailies vs the people skipping them

rio
Mar 20, 2008

A lot of Genshin’s most annoying problems could be solved by adding a loving dialogue skip button and the ability to advance text when you want to (not when all animations finish or whatever other arbitrary nonsense keeps that from being possible). Wouldn’t really need all of these roundabout ways to make dailies better if you could just skip the dialogue.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


HI3's format of just being a visual novel was awesome because it lets you just outright skip and there's no delay on advancing text.

Of course they are now Genshinifying HI3 so even that's being lost. :negative:

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Ok Neuv. This character is great. Beyond being fun stuff like his water monologue is just hilarious.

Danakir
Feb 10, 2014

No Wave posted:

Ok Neuv. This character is great. Beyond being fun stuff like his water monologue is just hilarious.

Take him to any desert biome for a really funny line. The EN voice actor sounds so indignant.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

they could also solve the problem by just not giving daily commissions dialog. i have no idea why they do.

Hyper Inferno
Jun 11, 2015
For a period of time I switched my commissions back to Mondstadt only because it had the greatest concentration of commissions that could be done in co-op that didn't require the host player to start the quest or submit an item.

Looking forward to rolling out with a Sayu, Furina, Raiden, and Nahida team when Furina comes out. Turn on all the skills and just roll around with Sayu to trigger healing, swirls, hyperbloom, and all other sorts of nonsense with the HP manipulation.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠
Can't believe the archon quest also sticks you in the loving prison... day 2, please let me out of jail...


Oh and I am pretty much done with ToF, which I mentioned earlier, cause I just found out that not only are the PC and PSN servers separate, but you can't cross save from the PS4 version (which runs like complete poo poo, and makes Cyberpunk 2077's launch look decent) to the PS5, even running the PS4 version of the game on the PS5. Like god, imagine wanting to switch from the PS4 Genshin to the PS5 genshin, and having to start over, at this point. Just a loving absolute clown show of a game.

It does not tell you anywhere that is not cross save compatible.

Also, the game runs like this on PS4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJnlcJpu2k

Kale
May 14, 2010

Garrand posted:

remember when Mihoyo tried to do one of those twitter follower goals with that account and the 'rewards' were having elon stream genshin impact and getting elon to tour mihoyo's hq? As if the playerbase was going to give a flying poo poo about that, lmao

They really dodged a bullet not going through with that one at the time. This was pre-Right Wing stereotype Elon Musk too and still kind of weird poo poo.

Being disgustingly pathetically online he also responded to it too. Andrew Tate also somehow stumbled into Hoyoverse stuff awkwardly enough too.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


There's an incredibly cursed tweet out there where he photoshopped Kiana next to him.

Zenostein
Aug 16, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:

Anora posted:

Can't believe the archon quest also sticks you in the loving prison... day 2, please let me out of jail...


Oh and I am pretty much done with ToF, which I mentioned earlier, cause I just found out that not only are the PC and PSN servers separate, but you can't cross save from the PS4 version (which runs like complete poo poo, and makes Cyberpunk 2077's launch look decent) to the PS5, even running the PS4 version of the game on the PS5. Like god, imagine wanting to switch from the PS4 Genshin to the PS5 genshin, and having to start over, at this point. Just a loving absolute clown show of a game.

It does not tell you anywhere that is not cross save compatible.

Also, the game runs like this on PS4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoJnlcJpu2k

lmao

I was vaguely considering installing it and digging up my old account, since I guess star rail couldn't possibly work on the ps4 or whatever and I didn't need to save the space. But goddamn, that's real dire. I imagine that's about how well genshin'd run on the switch, assuming there's still people out there hoping for that to ever happen.

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Kale posted:

They really dodged a bullet not going through with that one at the time. This was pre-Right Wing stereotype Elon Musk too and still kind of weird poo poo.

Wasn't that just one employee who was pushing it, and then they got fired over the contest thing? Or am I remembering it wrong?



Zenostein posted:

I was vaguely considering installing it and digging up my old account,

About that... no cross save between Mobile/PC and PS4/5, it also sounded like no cross play between those. Like PC/Mobile is one server set, PS4 is another, and PS5 is a different one. Like just purely the dumbest choices.

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Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

Tower of Fail more like lmao

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