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KillHour
Oct 28, 2007



A Democrat could chew gum in the hallway and Republicans would respond the same. They need to do something to discourage it because it's going to piss everyone else off (especially the fire department) if it keeps happening, but it's not going to be anything substantial.

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Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

KillHour posted:

My friend is a teacher and a middle school student got expelled for pulling the fire alarm last year. Schools don't gently caress around anymore.

My guess is these days pulling an alarm could be a prelude to a mass shooting so it's not the harmless prank it used to be hence the major punishment for it.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Charliegrs posted:

My guess is these days pulling an alarm could be a prelude to a mass shooting so it's not the harmless prank it used to be hence the major punishment for it.

I think they just didn't like the kid. That literal same day, the principal caught a bunch of the teachers (not my friend) fall-over drunk at a school dance and nothing happened to them.

shimmy shimmy
Nov 13, 2020

KillHour posted:

I think they just didn't like the kid. That literal same day, the principal caught a bunch of the teachers (not my friend) fall-over drunk at a school dance and nothing happened to them.

Sure, but that's just class/co-worker solidarity.

zoux posted:

Oh my god I didn't know he was a middle school principal before joining congress

Oh my god it's perfect.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007
Doesn't Bowman know that this is what interns are for?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1708217237952205261

Looks like they're going to put it off for 45 days while the House GOP devolves into bloody sectarian conflict.

https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/1708200022267879426

LMao I doubt Kev appreciates the shoutout.

zoux fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Sep 30, 2023

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



KillHour posted:

My friend is a teacher and a middle school student got expelled for pulling the fire alarm last year. Schools don't gently caress around anymore.

Eh, misdemeanor charges can result, and I think there can be fines/fees even for the organization for a false pull. Over a decade ago I was working at an indoor soccer facility, and someone on one team pulled the alarm after a particularly rough game. They refused to identify who did it - we knew which team, just not which individual. My recollection is that the GM wound up threatening to suspend the whole team if they didn't either identify the individual who pulled it, or collectively came up with the ~$500 fee the FD was going to charge the facility.

I think they showed up with $500 a couple days later.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

koolkal posted:

So what do people expect will actually happen to Bowman?

Expulsion seems unlikely but surely he'll get some punishment I figure.

Probably a nominal vote to censure without any actual consequences

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Can't wait for next week's 15 rounds of trying to elect a Speaker again. Crossing my fingers that McCarthy continues his headstrong push to pry up and sell even the things nailed down in order to get his title.

How long until we get to Speaker McCarthy in his beautiful office as Assistant Speaker Jeffries runs the House?

Chemtrailologist posted:

Doesn't Bowman know that this is what interns are for?

A real leader would have had an intern at one of his New York offices call in a bomb threat from Trump Tower instead of pulling the alarm himself.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

koolkal posted:

So what do people expect will actually happen to Bowman?

Expulsion seems unlikely but surely he'll get some punishment I figure.

Whatever a majority of the House can agree on, and it's anyone's guess what they'll be. McCarthy says he wants to refer it to the Ethics Committee. One of the ultra-MAGA reps is introducing a resolution to expel, but I can't imagine that gets anywhere. Several other far-right representatives are calling him an insurrectionist and demanding that he be prosecuted, but that's pretty obviously just political posturing.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Angry_Ed posted:

And then Sam Brownback put his ideas into practice and when it predictably went to poo poo Norquist immediately claimed "well that doesn't count because reasons"

Every Libertarian I know, I can promise you, that not even one month into their Libertopian fantasy dreamland, one of the very first things they'd start to do once the cracks started began to show in that society is to start coming up with rules and/or electing or appointing people to enforce them and fix all the poo poo that unfettered selfish greed creates.

Some rear end in a top hat upstream from you decides to build a dam on his property that funnels all the water into his garden, onto his private chipping green and straight down into his private well where he then filters it and bottles the rest to sell to people in the subdivision? Then all of a sudden we need some restrictions on water usage and something must be done about sharing. Or, I guess the logical solution in their minds is for someone to just buy another property even further upstream until one person owns the highest property?

That, and they'd have to come up with some socialist solution to garbage collection because, in Libertopia, no one wants to pick up trash.

Further, let's say we privatize the fire department and no one will put out a fire on your property without swiping your credit card first. Gee, I can't picture a scenario where the person who makes money running the LFD would ever just go around starting fires and charging people to put them out!

I'm all for individual freedom, but some things are just simply a collective responsibility and a societal need that can't be handled by capitalism and a profit motive. Many things, in fact. But, to these types, nothing is worth doing unless it makes money. See: the disdain for and contempt of the USPS.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Reap what you sow, fuckfaces. You've spent decades filling the airwaves with your own Dittohead brand of media but never considered the consequences when they grew old enough to actually win elections with votes from the people you helped render brain dead. Too bad you're taking this country down with you but cry me a loving river for why your constituents and colleagues aren't reasonable people.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Bowman just a total dipshit handing Republicans some talking points

https://twitter.com/bresreports/status/1708247568084307989

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

yo wasnt this guy one of the OG tea party people who keot shutting down the government over stupid poo poo? Lol

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Piell posted:

Bowman just a total dipshit handing Republicans some talking points

https://twitter.com/bresreports/status/1708247568084307989

Why does it matter?

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

Why does it matter?

it's an unforced error and will be annoying

Blind Pineapple
Oct 27, 2010

For The Perfect Fruit 'n' Kaman

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Fill with pineapple juice
Serve over crushed ice

College Slice
What was the idea behind pulling the alarm to begin with? Republicans were trying to force a vote and he was hoping to get more reading or discussion in during the evacuation?

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
pulling the fire alarm was a lame stunt that takes focus off the republicans being doofuses

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

OctaMurk posted:

pulling the fire alarm was a lame stunt that takes focus off the republicans being doofuses

the media doesn't seem to be caring about it at all, so it doesn't matter

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Blind Pineapple posted:

What was the idea behind pulling the alarm to begin with? Republicans were trying to force a vote and he was hoping to get more reading or discussion in during the evacuation?
The Dems were given no time to read the bill so I imagine that’s the reason yes

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
https://x.com/JakeSherman/status/1708269890627363163?s=20

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Blind Pineapple posted:

What was the idea behind pulling the alarm to begin with? Republicans were trying to force a vote and he was hoping to get more reading or discussion in during the evacuation?

Man lost his struggle with the intrusive thoughts. Honestly, I can't even be mad, I'd find it hard to resist pulling the fire alarm in the Capitol too.

MixMasterMalaria
Jul 26, 2007
Pulling the fire alarm as a tribute to first responders

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

zoux posted:

They told us they could get fingerprints and could always identify anyone who pulled a fire alarm. In retrospect that was probably a lie to scare us from doign it.

All of us believed that indelible ink would get on your hand, making you as the one who did it. I don’t think any adult ever told us that, though. I think it was a plot point in one of the My Teacher is an Alien books.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Now that I live in EST, this is the first one of these I get to watch live instead of on rebroadcast delayed for my timezone like New Years Rockin' Eve.

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck
senate passed the short-term bill 88-9. so we avoid a shutdown and all it cost was kevin mccarthy's gavel, looks like

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Craig K posted:

senate passed the short-term bill 88-9. so we avoid a shutdown and all it cost was kevin mccarthy's gavel, looks like
Ukraine funding is a mess now, and it may be that they won’t be able to get any future funding through with this current Congress

Craig K
Nov 10, 2016

puck

FlamingLiberal posted:

Ukraine funding is a mess now, and it may be that they won’t be able to get any future funding through with this current Congress

extremely fair and good point. and i'm now suddenly realizing that, considering kevin mccarthy was literally the only person to want the position, who in the hell is replacing him

BDawg
May 19, 2004

In Full Stereo Symphony

Craig K posted:

senate passed the short-term bill 88-9. so we avoid a shutdown and all it cost was kevin mccarthy's gavel, looks like

I’m not entirely sure Gaetz has the guts to do it.

Who is going to do it if not McCarthy? The real alternative is McCarthy deals with Dems to save his speakership.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Blind Pineapple posted:

What was the idea behind pulling the alarm to begin with? Republicans were trying to force a vote and he was hoping to get more reading or discussion in during the evacuation?

That's the pundits' read on it. His own excuse is that he wanted to open the door (which is an emergency exit that only opens when the fire alarm goes off).

Piell posted:

it's an unforced error and will be annoying

It's only going to be annoying if you make a habit of reading right-wing media or following right-wing Twitter, because they'll be the only ones talking about it for anything more than a brief aside here and there.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

BiggerBoat posted:

...

That, and they'd have to come up with some socialist solution to garbage collection because, in Libertopia, no one wants to pick up trash.

....

Tell that to the libertarians that took over that town in New Hampshire. Nobody did garbage collection and eventually bears took over the town.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

BDawg posted:

I’m not entirely sure Gaetz has the guts to do it.

Who is going to do it if not McCarthy? The real alternative is McCarthy deals with Dems to save his speakership.

They could stab him in the back and put Jefferies or someone else as Speaker since the Republicans will be divided.

Kale
May 14, 2010

Young Freud posted:

They could stab him in the back and put Jefferies or someone else as Speaker since the Republicans will be divided.

That's the most hilarious scenario I've envisioned as well.

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
Why exactly did that guy pull the fire alarm?

Skex
Feb 22, 2012

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

davecrazy posted:

Why exactly did that guy pull the fire alarm?

Sow chaos and piss off Republicans and pearl clutchers

SirFozzie
Mar 28, 2004
Goombatta!

Kale posted:

That's the most hilarious scenario I've envisioned as well.

Probably can't happen, unless they A) Convince moderate Repubs to vote for their candidate, or B) Convince Gaetz to play into their hands by having his goon squad vote "Present", since you need a majority.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

davecrazy posted:

Why exactly did that guy pull the fire alarm?

Dems never saw the bill until it was introduced so they needed time to read it and see if there was any bullshit in it before they voted for it.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

saintonan posted:

Dems never saw the bill until it was introduced so they needed time to read it and see if there was any bullshit in it before they voted for it.

So of course naturally the problem is now "pulling the fire alarm is bad" and not "the Republicans trying to force through a bill that nobody read resulting in someone pulling the fire alarm just to give it time to be read is bad"

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?
If McCarthy is gone will the next house speaker election be as hilarious as his?

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Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Fork of Unknown Origins posted:

If McCarthy is gone will the next house speaker election be as hilarious as his?

Probably not, because it would literally never end. The GOP would fully consume itself trying to figure it out, I don't think they have anyone who can get the votes.

Comedy option: A few of the moderate Republicans switch their party allegiance, giving the Dems a narrow majority and vote Jeffries in as Speaker, just to keep the House functional.

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