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Sedgr posted:The original Prophet aliens forced their way into the wormhole and it was pretty much the same thing forever after that because they only experience time simultaneously. Who were these original aliens? Do we know anything?
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redshirt posted:Who were these original aliens? Do we know anything? I’m about 80% certain they had either pointy ears or forehead crinckles and wore pastel colored 90’s sweaters
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There's a theory that the wormhole aliens are future Bajorans who evolved into them and then became their own gods because time shenanigans but I am going to to suggest that they were future Skreeans instead. And the Tears of the Prophets should be more accurately called the Skinflakes of the Prophets.
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i think they're the bajorans.
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the wormhole aliens are just odo having a laugh
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I always figure they were like the Q.
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Hollismason posted:I always figure they were like the Q. And the skreeans(Bajor's opposites) have a magic bottle of wine that if they open it then a prophet has to show up?
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Hollismason posted:I always figure they were like the Q. for a laugh Q trapped them in a wormhole forever like the bad guys from superman 2
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In my headcanon dragon ball z power rankings the prophets/pahwraiths are 3 levels below the Q, who themselves are 1 level below Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior
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pictured: jesus christ [sic]
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GolfHole posted:pictured: jesus christ [sic] Praise Him!
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The wormhole aliens are colonialist oppressors, we never got the final season of DS9 where Sisko comes back and talks about how racist they are.
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The wormhole aliens probably deposited Sisko 1000 years back in the past because they don't understand time.
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I also just assumed the prophets are highly evolved Bajorans hence the "we're of Bajor" spiel.
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Mulaney Power Move posted:I also just assumed the prophets are highly evolved Bajorans hence the "we're of Bajor" spiel. Either Bajorans, or some future Bajoran Cardassian mix was always my thought.
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Hollismason posted:I always figure they were like the Q. I always assumed that in the one DS9 episode that Q shows up but he doesn't actually do anything, was because of the proximity of the station to the Prophets. Sisko being no fun was a secondary reason.
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Endless Trash posted:In my headcanon dragon ball z power rankings the prophets/pahwraiths are 3 levels below the Q, who themselves are 1 level below Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior And on top of them all, the koala.
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PON WHEREEEEEVER YOU AAAAARE
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MikeJF posted:PON WHEREEEEEVER YOU AAAAARE Pon de floor?
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Bitching about Voyager stuff. Episode "The 37s" had like 5 "some kind of...". I'm hoping that is the peak but there's 100+ to go. Season 1 ended on a wet fart but reading up they jostled the broadcast schedule. Also why did aliens bring humans to that planet but leave the truck out in orbit? I won't get into how absurd that it started up. Neelix is such an unlikable character. Jealous, obnoxious, loud, manic. Maybe he'll evolve a bit. I don't remember him much when watching the series when it came out. Kes goes into heat was a thing. Also found out Ensign Wildman is pregnant which made me remember 7 of 9 and Naomi Wildman having moments together which I vaguely remember being good but not sure. Even the doctor centric episode Projections was a bit of a disappointment. I think we're due for some good ones but Harry goes to San Fran is next for us so 
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Big rear end On Fire posted:Bitching about Voyager stuff. Neelix gets better, I'll give him that. He never redeems himself in my eyes, but the visceral hate I had for him in season 1/2 does mellow out. I remember being incredibly pissed that Neelix didn't die when he got the his lungs stolen during my first watch of Voyager. Like, the angriest I've ever been about Star Trek.
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He does get better yea, but then gets worse for a short bit, then generally gets better over time.
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I softened a lot on Neelix when he takes care of Tuvok's brain injury and if I were on a 70-year return journey home I'd be grateful to have someone like him aboard.
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Neelix never gets better and deserves nothing but contempt
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I don't care if they become non-corporeal, those skin flake aliens need to be kicked in the teeth.
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Also Chakotay was going to risk his life so a kid could have a name? The Kazon are low rent Klingons with none of the fun and a never ending case of bad hair day.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:The Kazon are low rent Klingons with none of the fun and a never ending case of bad hair day. So basically every klingon story in tng that involves worf
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“Neelix becomes more tolerable” is a way of saying “the writers give him way less screen time and plots as the show goes on”. At least that’s how I remember it.
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I like Neelix he's a funny goblin man. Just ignore anything to do with Kes
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I don't know (doubt) if I'll ever do a Voyager rewatch, but I wonder if Neelix would grow on me the way the Ferengi grew on me on my rewatch of DS9. I used to hate them, dread their episodes. But I found myself entertained on the rewatch, even enjoying previously hated episodes (Profit and Lace).
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I'm going through Voyager for (mostly) the first time, and outside of anything to do with Kes, Neelix is fine so far. 
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No one who defends twuvix gets to say they hate neelix
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Why? I thought he shouldn't be murdered, not that I liked him personally. Neelix isn't terrible outside of the Kes stuff, he's just mostly unlikeable. Kes stuff included and he falls into the negative of generally hurting the story while not adding much. He mostly works as a comedy bit a time or two, and other than that its just a shotgun blast scatter of plots.
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Given all the complaints and the almost entire human crew, I wouldn't let Neelix cook for the ship.
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I like that Neelix is not very likeable, the reason he seems unlikeable is he is constantly trolling the bridge staff and especially Tuvok, famously, but ESPECIALLY Janeway. Who unlike Tuvok does not realize she is being trolled.
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Sedgr posted:Why? I thought he shouldn't be murdered, not that I liked him personally. Because he's supposed to be half neelix. Also this just goes to show that Tuvix was worse than the sum of his parts, since Tuvok and Neelix would have absolutely sacrificed themselves to save 2 crewmen. on top of that, if maybe they didn't think that was the best choice but they were going to go do it anyway, they sure as hell wouldn't yell and scream at their crewmates about it.
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CainFortea posted:Because he's supposed to be half neelix. The logical Tuvok would have been ok with being merged with Neelix, since it means less resources drained on the ship by reducing the crew count. The emotional Neelix would have been ok being merged with Tuvok, since it means he gets to be more important by being a security officer. The leader Janeway demands blood.
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Janeway: I've got it, Tuvix! We'll clone you, and then separate the clone into Tuvok and Neelix! Tuvix: This is acceptable. Tuvix 2: I don't wanna die! Janeway: Goddamnit
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I just can't help but think Twix when I think of Tuvix and so I always conclude: Eat them both.
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