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coelomate posted:Jake Tapper on CNN: "Reading the tea leaves and doing basic math, 6 house Rs have already voted to remove. If vote continues as expected, likely means McCarthy will lose, which means for the first time in the history of the U.S., a speaker will have been removed from his leadership position" Yes... ha ha ha... yes! How quick will they vote on a successor?
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BDawg posted:Trump! (not happening) let me tell you about the last time people said that...
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JosefStalinator posted:Yes... ha ha ha... yes! It took 15 rounds of voting to elect McCarthy, and that was after McCarthy had emerged as the frontrunner. Right now no one even knows who they'd be voting for
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JosefStalinator posted:Yes... ha ha ha... yes! Immediately, because they can't actually do anything without a Speaker.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So this ends one of three ways right? Not going to happen. Their power comes from their ability to rally a frothing base, and if they break and run in something this high stakes they would get killed back home, or worse, primary challenged from even further right. quote:Or the moderate Republicans convert to Democrats quote:Or some of the Democrats vote for a Republican Never would happen. Most likely outcome is the dems let the republicans twist in the wind for a few days.
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in my opinion the clearest choice to replace mccarthy is mccarthy
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haveblue posted:It took 15 rounds of voting to elect McCarthy, and that was after McCarthy had emerged as the frontrunner. Right now no one even knows who they'd be voting for Oh I figured it would take a while - was more curious when the hilariously tortured process would begin.
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Yeah, I assume the Republicans will get back to a majority eventually. Maybe Gaetz and company will frame just vacating him (and maybe a few failed votes) as enough of a rap on the knuckles, along with some more vague promises and hypothetical concessions. Maybe they go so far as to prop up another member of the Republican leadership as speaker, just to change the face in charge and shake off Kevin's bad mojo. I can't see a bunch of moderate Republicans becoming Democrats (the margin's just too big), or Democrats supporting Kevin in return for nothing, or Kevin keeping the rest of his caucus's support if he tries to strike a power-sharing deal with the Democrats that isolates the hardliners. It'll be something internal to the caucus shifting before anything else, I think.
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Oh gently caress me, he's going down
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:So this ends one of three ways right? Or McCarthy gives the tea party folk some “we won” banner type deal and they vote for him again.
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coelomate posted:let me tell you about the last time people said that... Trump or not, I don't see them electing a non-Rep.
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Remember that no matter what happens, any member of the house can say the magic words and start this whole process all over again
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Seems like there's a small chance too that some conservative Dems could come to some sort of deal or agreement with McCarthy and declare themselves Problem Solvers or Non Labeled or whatever dumb poo poo name they use
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Or McCarthy gives the tea party folk some “we won” banner type deal and they vote for him again. Yeah. I'd be shocked if McCarthy doesn't end back in the chair simply because... Who else?
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Dubar posted:Remember that no matter what happens, any member of the house can say the magic words and start this whole process all over again This is pretty inside baseball, but what would it take to get that rule removed? Can it only happen with a new congress?
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I still think its more likely that Republicans find someone willing to bite the bullet than come to democrats for help
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So we're at 216 to 207, they have to get to 218 to oust him right?
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Kloaked00 posted:So we're at 216 to 207, they have to get to 218 to oust him right? Yup, two more yea votes and its over.
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Kloaked00 posted:So we're at 216 to 207, they have to get to 218 to oust him right? Simple majority of those voting to oust. He's toast. You'd need 218 to get a replacement assuming the whole house is present.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:My vote for speaker goes to the widening gyre. There's always someone who's the right mix of ambitious and arrogant to think that they, somehow, will have less trouble with it than McCarthy did. If you're naive enough or narcissistic enough to not realize it's an unwinnable situation, then being Speaker of the House is way cooler than being just one of 200+ Republican members of the House.
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Kloaked00 posted:So we're at 216 to 207, they have to get to 218 to oust him right? Just needs a majority of those present - he's done. 
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Looks like final tally is 216 - 210.
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Oct 3, 2023 21:46
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The wish is granted, long live Jambi.
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Yays are 216 Nays are 210 Resolution is adopted
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Oct 3, 2023 21:47
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The office of speaker of the house of us representatives is hearby declared vacant
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some bowtie is now crowning himself speaker pro tem
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Lol that’s a hella gavel bang by bowtie thor there
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coelomate posted:some bowtie is now crowning himself speaker pro tem Bah gawd, is that George Santos' music!?
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Puck42 posted:Do we get the return of Wild and Crazy CSPAN Cameras again? That's part of the rules package separate from the speaker (but voted on after the speaker was first elected) so I don't think so? I'm not sure if it's even possible to replace the rules package mid-session, my thought is 'probably' just via a vote but the package is not actually tied to the speakership. It just can't happen until after there's a speaker at the start of each session.
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Lmao, just slamming that gavel
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pursuant to clause 12(a) of rule 1 bowtie-chair declares the house in recess lol lmao
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This rules. We're off the precipice.
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Congrats to Kevin for making history with the shortest speakership in American history and becoming the only Speaker to ever be forcibly removed on the same day.
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So how long until Gaetz is found floating face down in the reflecting pool?
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Cimber posted:This is pretty inside baseball, but what would it take to get that rule removed? Can it only happen with a new congress?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Congrats to Kevin for making history with the shortest speakership in American history and become the only Speaker to ever be forcibly removed on the same day. Longest serving Republican speaker was Dennis Hastert. Wonder why he rarely gets brought up. 
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The best part is that he did it to himself. He sold the possibility of a vote to vacate as part of the deal to get the speakership in the first place (rather than going for the 16th vote) and shockingly, shockingly the clowns used it against him.
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Gaetz is already floating Scalise
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McCarthy, who instituted the leopard eating face rule to appease the leopard eating face party, currently shocked that the leopard eating face party votes to eat McCarthy’s face
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