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The Leader (Possibly) of the Civilizing Forces has checked in.
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What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker?
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Oct 3, 2023 21:58
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How many Scaramucci’s was this? Like…24? 25?
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Oct 3, 2023 21:59
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker? Its a little different than at the start of a session because you need to vote for a speaker before you can pass House rules, but those rules are still in effect.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:00
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker? By default congress becomes a Spirit Halloween store
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Oct 3, 2023 22:00
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker? It is believed that the House cannot conduct legislative business without a speaker. Thus, it would be impossible to pass appropriations bills or another continuing resolution.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:00
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marshmonkey posted:By default congress becomes a Spirit Halloween store the boos have it
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Oct 3, 2023 22:01
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Kid Rock will be voted in as Singer of the House instead
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Oct 3, 2023 22:01
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker? The government is still funded for 45 days I believe but the house can't do anything else till they sort this out yeah.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:01
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Good luck finding somebody in the current house that has greater support among the GOP rank and file members right now than McCarthy.  Even the whip I doubt can get a majority
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Oct 3, 2023 22:03
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The government is still funded for 45 days I believe but the house can't do anything else till they sort this out yeah. They'll probably still be unable to pick a speaker without dem votes in that time, so get ready for a long shut down folks.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:03
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So how many times will Jeffries get the majority of the votes this time? What's the over/under?
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Oct 3, 2023 22:04
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So McCarthy is out then? Tremendous content etc etc
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Oct 3, 2023 22:05
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https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1709310557546070423 Cry more https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1709312529946873968 Republican conference should be pretty spicy, wonder if McCarthy is gonna try to put someone else up or just try himself again
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Oct 3, 2023 22:05
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Randalor posted:So how many times will Jeffries get the majority of the votes this time? What's the over/under? 20.5
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Oct 3, 2023 22:05
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:One of the House Freedom Caucus members who helped oust Boehner is also defending McCarthy by correctly pointing out that McCarthy is spineless and gave in to all of their demands. He's certainly a fellow traveler, but Tom Massie isn't actually a Freedom Caucus member. (e: or at least, he's publicly denied being one.)
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Oct 3, 2023 22:06
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Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? It seems a bit faulty to ask someone to volunteer to stand where you just tossed a grenade, and blew up the guy that was there, all while smiling and holding another grenade.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:07
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:What happens when they can't agree on a new speaker? Did they just defacto shut down the government because nothing can happen without a speaker? They can't pass any bills or do any real House business without a speaker. Existing bills remain in effect, though, so the government as a whole won't shut down until the spending bills authorizing it to spend money expire. Which will happen in a bit under six weeks.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:08
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? Because they don't know how to govern and are motivated entirely by the incoherent anger and demands of their base
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? Gaetz and allies don't care about running the government, they just want to hurt their enemies
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Oct 3, 2023 22:09
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? Matt Gaetz would probably say it's about sending a message. Most other people would probably say it's because Matt Gaetz is an idiot.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:09
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? In my opinion it's more about building 'Street Cred' for their future careers as TV pundits and guest speakers.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:10
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eviltastic posted:He's certainly a fellow traveler, but Tom Massie isn't actually a Freedom Caucus member. (e: or at least, he's publicly denied being one.) He was also bought in a way by McCarthy- after mccarthy's elevation to speaker he got a spot on the rules committee along with Chip Roy, and he got chair of the antitrust subcommittee when it should have gone to Ken Buck (who is now super pissed) by seniority.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:11
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marshmonkey posted:By default congress becomes a Spirit Halloween store 
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Oct 3, 2023 22:12
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So on the non-zero percent chance Jeffries actually gets elected Speaker, csn he immediately remove the rule saying that anyone can oust the Speaker, or is that rule in place for the term?
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Oct 3, 2023 22:14
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Years and years of a total lack of accountability and "win" at all costs partisan hackery mentality brought the GOP to this point where one random rear end in a top hat far right extremist from Florida could dictate the fate of an entire congress because their party allows these people ridiculously outsized influence. Don't expect accountability to visit the GOP any time soon or for the U.S to ever reach a point where the system doesn't overwhelmingly favor them most election cycles to where they can effectively stumble and bumble and poo poo talk their way to slim majorities or strong minorities every single election. It's so blatant to everyone that doesn't drink the QAnon Kool-Aid which is the dysfunctional bad party in the states and which is the painfully disappointing but still quasi-functional one and has been since I was in high school and not even allowed to vote in election yet.Piell posted:Gaetz and allies don't care about running the government, they just want to hurt their enemies He's firmly in the grievance politics camp of congressperson as brought to you by the likes of social media and the MAGA movement yeah.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:14
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Randalor posted:So on the non-zero percent chance Jeffries actually gets elected Speaker, csn he immediately remove the rule saying that anyone can oust the Speaker, or is that rule in place for the term? If Jeffries wins, can he eliminate the rule that requires the House to have a speaker to function
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Oct 3, 2023 22:16
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So like, businesses & rich people fund Republican campaigns because their policies are more immediately profitable than Democratic policies, right? At what point does antics like this and shutdowns start to cost them more than Democratic policies do? Wrecking the US's international credibility and interrupting basic government services that everyone depends on has to start impacting business bottom lines sometime, right? How bad does it have to get before they stop paying for Republican campaigns?
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ColdPie posted:So like, businesses & rich people fund Republican campaigns because their policies are more immediately profitable than Democratic policies, right? At what point does antics like this and shutdowns start to cost them more than Democratic policies do? Wrecking the US's international credibility and interrupting basic government services that everyone depends on has to start impacting business bottom lines sometime, right? How bad does it have to get before they stop paying for Republican campaigns? it'll never happen because they've grown up their whole lives thinking Republicans are better for biz even though they're often not. it's so ingrained it's never coming out.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:18
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This is unfair. Spirit Halloweens are actually useful.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:19
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USCE Fall: McCarthy, his face eaten
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Why would they vote to vacate without a clear plan for someone else to take the job? When McCarthy won the speakership, one of the conditions he offered Gaetz was basically "if I don't do everything you say, you can blow me up with this grenade I'm giving you". On top of that, Gaetz waved that grenade around basically all the time, constantly making all sorts of demands. When McCarthy got sick of him and started ignoring his demands, Gaetz kind of had to throw that grenade if he wanted to retain any leverage at all. If not, he would have been seen as a pushover who was all threats and no action.
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ColdPie posted:So like, businesses & rich people fund Republican campaigns because their policies are more immediately profitable than Democratic policies, right? At what point does antics like this and shutdowns start to cost them more than Democratic policies do? Wrecking the US's international credibility and interrupting basic government services that everyone depends on has to start impacting business bottom lines sometime, right? How bad does it have to get before they stop paying for Republican campaigns? So this is a general poll, rather than a poll of businesses & rich people, but I do not think much progress has been made in terms of convincing the country that the Republican are a threat to the economy. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4235353-gop-holds-edge-in-new-poll-on-safeguarding-prosperity-military-security/ (Polling from gallup) "Fifty-three percent of respondents said the GOP would do a better job at keeping the country prosperous over the next few years, compared to the Democrats’ 39 percent. The 14-point advantage is the widest gap on the question since mid-1991. It also is up from the 10-point gap last year. "
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Congrats to Kevin for making history with the shortest speakership in American history and becoming the only Speaker to ever be forcibly removed on the same day. 
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https://twitter.com/RepLuna/status/1709310697060855907 First public demand has been made (she didn't vote today because she's out on maternity leave so seems like there would actually have been 9 votes against McCarthy, she's returning now) Piell fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Oct 3, 2023 |
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lol and additionally lmao. I hope they vote to expel Gaetz on down the line too.
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Oct 3, 2023 22:28
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/RepLuna/status/1709310697060855907 A Republican taking maternity leave is like a vegetarian having a steak dinner.
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/RepLuna/status/1709310697060855907 Ugh, I've actually met this person a few times. Trump train, First-Middle-Last train, and literally does the looks-good-in-yoga-pants strategy outside of polling stations to secure votes. Basically shove MTG into a vat and push the "Younger, hispanic, vet" button and here you go.
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ColdPie posted:So like, businesses & rich people fund Republican campaigns because their policies are more immediately profitable than Democratic policies, right? At what point does antics like this and shutdowns start to cost them more than Democratic policies do? Wrecking the US's international credibility and interrupting basic government services that everyone depends on has to start impacting business bottom lines sometime, right? How bad does it have to get before they stop paying for Republican campaigns? When you say "businesses and rich people" think more family owned business (Uihleins, Ron Johnson, local car dealership chains) than huge financial institutions. Someone like Romney will occasionally support good policy on line-go-up grounds, but that part of the party is disappearing.
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