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What is wrong with you "0", "4", and "7"?
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1709357287079354541?t=GZ7DgY_cnsEzymU3XMpd9A&s=19 Oh no he's not following the dumb decorum bullshit
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I don't think even FTV's biggest proponents thought it would, like, DO anything concrete per se, it was basically just the biggest inflection point for deciding what the nascent left coalition that had formed around Bernie Sanders would end up being after he lost. Would it be an independent movement characterized by its goals and principles, or would it be just another flavor of Democrat? Obviously it ended up being the second one. Like 70% of the fighters we thought we had have fallen in line and the rest have given up.
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Would the Squad in general and AOC specifically be insurgents intent on transforming the Democratic Party whether they liked it or not, or would they be good little soldiers? And so on
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Oct 4, 2023 03:50
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AOC could have been a world-changing revolutionary figure if she'd stuck to her principles even when it meant going against Mama Bear. Instead she's the Dem party's designated Twitter user. It's sad
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Oct 4, 2023 03:51
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AOC was never anything but a CIA plant
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loquacius posted:AOC could have been a world-changing revolutionary figure lol no
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FTV also gave the centrist ghouls yet another excuse to crow about how only stupid babies actually expect politicians to Do Things, when the smart and attractive pragmatic grownups know that you just VBNMW and hope the Government Fairy puts M4A under your pillow eventually, and trying to force any issue is just the equivalent of yelling "Do politics at it!"
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Oct 4, 2023 03:58
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Mr Hootington posted:What is wrong with you "0", "4", and "7"? the 4 is just plain bad handwriting, but strikethroughs on a 7 make it distinct from a 1, and strikethroughs on a 0 make it distinct from an O
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Oct 4, 2023 03:59
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Dixon Chisholm posted:gradenko draw the clock
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thats a driving position
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Gunshow Poophole posted:oh President my preisdenttt
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the_steve posted:FTV also gave the centrist ghouls yet another excuse to crow about how only stupid babies actually expect politicians to Do Things i mean they're not wrong there
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Oct 4, 2023 04:06
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loquacius posted:AOC could have been a world-changing revolutionary figure if she'd stuck to her principles even when it meant going against Mama Bear. Instead she's the Dem party's designated Twitter user. It's sad Yeah AOC talked a tremendous amount of poo poo about how badass she was going to be and then cried when she got scolded into voting present on letting Israel murder as many Palestinians as they want Ftv was a litmus test for if the squad had a whole spine between all of them and nope they're just "cool" democrats
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Oct 4, 2023 04:08
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gradenko_2000 posted:the 4 is just plain bad handwriting, but strikethroughs on a 7 make it distinct from a 1, and strikethroughs on a 0 make it distinct from an O why would there be an O on a time piece
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Oct 4, 2023 04:16
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Sam Seder really needed Michael Brooks lol Like I get that he hates Jimmy Dore for some dumb poo poo that went down when they were doing stand-up but the idea that you can use leverage to get what you want isn't dumb at all it's like something you figure out when you're a kid Now he's got a co-host that says poo poo like building statues for SS volunteers is bad because it emboldens Russian propaganda
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biceps crimes posted:AOC was never anything but a CIA plant
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Oct 4, 2023 04:22
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hobbesmaster posted:target actually has a sophisticated loss prevention program so definitely knows what’s going on, however of course that does not mean that their statements will be accurate Maybe they could just do what CostCo does and not let you leave until a person checks your cart and your receipt. CostCo isn't bitching about "organized theft."
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Oct 4, 2023 04:22
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lmfao that speaker guy got fired
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https://twitter.com/GarbageApe/status/1709223594612453835
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the_steve posted:FTV also gave the centrist ghouls yet another excuse to crow about how only stupid babies actually expect politicians to Do Things, when the smart and attractive pragmatic grownups know that you just VBNMW and hope the Government Fairy puts M4A under your pillow eventually, and trying to force any issue is just the equivalent of yelling "Do politics at it!" Also, a bunch of “socialists” (Now derogatorily referred to as democratic socialists) in politics, the media, and on Twitter used FTV to pull a Sean McElwee and jump off the Marxist bandwagon in favor of acquiring a better set of wheels. The silver lining is just like Sean McElwee this has really blown up in some of their faces. Clip-On Fedora has issued a correction as of 04:55 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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Excelzior posted:Live Smythe reaction: thats right
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gradenko_2000 posted:Even if it failed, congresspersons would have to go "on the record" for voting against it, and that would highlight and identify who needs to be picked-off and replaced with someone who does support M4A, while also demonstrating that The Squad would be willing to make demands of the establishment even for purely demonstrative reasons That’s dumb because you can already tell who is already an insurance shill or not, and there would be plenty who would vote for it performatively because they know it wouldn’t pass, the Squad included
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yes, the alternative where literally loving nothing at all happened and every politician can just shrug and say they vaguely support the idea was the better outcome because everyone knows in their hearts that the government sucks so there is no need to even try and start a conversation for change
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Maximo Roboto posted:That’s dumb because you can already tell who is already an insurance shill or not, and there would be plenty who would vote for it performatively because they know it wouldn’t pass, the Squad included that didn't stop the Republicans from doing repeated failed votes on repealing Obamacare as an exercise of ideological commitment
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loquacius posted:Would the Squad in general and AOC specifically be insurgents intent on transforming the Democratic Party whether they liked it or not, or would they be good little soldiers? And so on it kind of became tied to aoc because aoc was the only one who really responded by typing on the internets to a professional athlete who was also a jimmy dore fan
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Maximo Roboto posted:That’s dumb because you can already tell who is already an insurance shill or not, and there would be plenty who would vote for it performatively because they know it wouldn’t pass, the Squad included If that were true they would have just held the vote and mocked the squad for wasting everyone's time. The fact that they fought so hard to make sure no vote would happen tells you something. Probably that the vote would have been embarrassing for how many Dems would be forced by donors to vote against it, because Medicare For All is such a threat to profits that insurance and pharma won't tolerate even performative votes in favor by their bought and paid for legislators.
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jimmy dore's claim is that the idea originated from him hearing it from a cspan caller to ask the progressive caucus to do literally anything with the house speaker vote coming up lol
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Force The Vote was also an explicitly written policy goal by the Democratic Socialists of America 
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cool clock gradenko. want to bring it to the white house?
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Maximo Roboto posted:That’s dumb because you can already tell who is already an insurance shill or not, and there would be plenty who would vote for it performatively because they know it wouldn’t pass, the Squad included lol yep. pramila jayapal's version of bernie's m4a bill had like 120 cosponsors the last time it was filled in 2022
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Maximo Roboto posted:That’s dumb because you can already tell who is already an insurance shill or not, and there would be plenty who would vote for it performatively because they know it wouldn’t pass, the Squad included aoc during her electoral campaign claimed to be exasperated that they could not even get a floor vote on medicare for all as an opposition to the democrats. if ftv was a bad idea, ok do literally anything as a substitute to show opposition.
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comedyblissoption posted:there is nothing you could demand or ask of them that wouldn't generate an excuse along these lines, which was the point of ftv. Sorry, the DemSocs say no. Instead, you should blindly support The Squad and all of their great decisions!
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/nicholaswu12/status/1709357287079354541?t=GZ7DgY_cnsEzymU3XMpd9A&s=19 bowtie man is the best speaker in history
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gradenko_2000 posted:the idea was that Medicare For All was supposed to get an up-or-down vote on the floor. Even if it failed, congresspersons would have to go "on the record" for voting against it, and that would highlight and identify who needs to be picked-off and replaced with someone who does support M4A, while also demonstrating that The Squad would be willing to make demands of the establishment even for purely demonstrative reasons What's this quote from?
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Nichael posted:What's this quote from? https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...s#post511260579 after checking back on where I saved it from, it was from since-permabanned poster Brunch Covidian on Jan 4, 2021
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...s#post511260579 Ah, it's well written. Nice job Mr. Covidian.
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The conclusion which follows from this is absolutely incontrovertible: it has been proved that, far from causing harm to the revolutionary proletariat, participation in a bourgeois-democratic parliament, even a few weeks before the victory of a Soviet republic and even after such a victory, actually helps that proletariat to prove to the backward masses why such parliaments deserve to be done away with; it facilitates their successful dissolution, and helps to make bourgeois parliamentarianism “politically obsolete”. To ignore this experience, while at the same time claiming affiliation to the Communist International, which must work out its tactics internationally (not as narrow or exclusively national tactics, but as international tactics), means committing a gross error and actually abandoning internationalism in deed, while recognising it in word.
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kicking pelosi out of her office is both meaningless and hilarious and I love it. Get back to work, bitch
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