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MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

So once I delete an app, is there any way to delete it from my purchase history so it doesn’t show the cloud download button in the App Store?

I just tried it and if you go and hide it from your purchase history in your App Store profile it doesn’t show the cloud download icon

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Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

MarcusSA posted:

I just tried it and if you go and hide it from your purchase history in your App Store profile it doesn’t show the cloud download icon

Awesome, thank you!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Awesome, thank you!

Fwiw I only tried it with free apps I’m not sure how it would handle something you paid for.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

MarcusSA posted:

Fwiw I only tried it with free apps I’m not sure how it would handle something you paid for.

I’m trying to ban a kid from TikTok and Snapchat, so this solution works great 👌🏻

For some reason, the screen time limits like to just plain disappear after a day or two. It’s really annoying.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Tiny Timbs posted:

Yeah I checked on the AT&T subreddit to see if I could do a trade in at the store instead of shipping it and the place is full of employees saying they’ll refuse to do it no matter what corporate policy says because it hurts their metrics. Same for returns of online items in store, which AT&T explicitly says you can do. Also anyone who attempts this is a lazy entitled piece of poo poo. Nice folks.

I’m not ATT but yup, I would just ship back for any carrier trade in via return label. Stores are overworked , understaffed, and hate taking returns.

The worst was people returning $250 AirPods which would hurt the store sales metrics as if they were the reason and your number went down by $250. Huge pet peeve of mine.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

So once I delete an app, is there any way to delete it from my purchase history so it doesn’t show the cloud download button in the App Store?

Yes - in the App Store app, tap your account icon, then “Purchased” and from there you can swipe on old apps and select “Hide”

E: f;b

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
Oh hey my trade in just processed and went fine, in relation to the trade in chat earlier

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

I’m trying to ban a kid from TikTok and Snapchat, so this solution works great 👌🏻

For some reason, the screen time limits like to just plain disappear after a day or two. It’s really annoying.

I wonder how long it's going to take my kids to work out that they can download any app my wife or I own without any parental approval.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


~Coxy posted:

I wonder how long it's going to take my kids to work out that they can download any app my wife or I own without any parental approval.

Probably about 5 seconds after they complain to their friends at school.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

~Coxy posted:

I wonder how long it's going to take my kids to work out that they can download any app my wife or I own without any parental approval.

Yeah there’s some way to look at family downloads and get them that way. Not sure of a way to close that loophole. There always something….

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I don’t know how savvy your kids are but you could also do something like set up a dns(?) filter to just silently block connections to TikTok. I use an app called NextDNS that blocks ads system wide but there are options to block games and porn and stuff like that too. Your kid, or anyone really, probably would never think to dig that deep into the system settings to figure it out.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Yeah there’s some way to look at family downloads and get them that way. Not sure of a way to close that loophole. There always something….

https://www.jamf.com/products/jamf-now/#jamf-now-pricing-interstitial

Free for 3 devices.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Boris Galerkin posted:

Your kid, or anyone really, probably would never think to dig that deep into the system settings to figure it out.

ohohohoho

I'm mostly kidding but every single time one of my parent friends says that they hope the kids won't figure out some technical nonsense related to filtering or whatever, they figure it out, because kids have infinite energy and time, it's actually incredible

I do concede that on some level this is age gated, younger kids won't have the braincells to rub together quite yet. The major problem in my social circle's experience is that if a child of sufficient age bypasses your lockdowns, that is like kid heroin and they will do loving anything to get that high again.

Something a savvy parent could use to brute force technical literacy, for sure.

One of my friend's kids has successfully rigged an entire system of compliance in which he gets Robucks (the currency from Roblocks) every time his parents want him to do something. Like, he reverse engineered his own system of rewards. Kids are fuckin' devious. Granted they're busy and I guess kinda pushovers by default, but drat. A kid who understands the power they wield is one of the most dangerous forces in the world.

Taima fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Oct 4, 2023

The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006

Boris Galerkin posted:

I don’t know how savvy your kids are but you could also do something like set up a dns(?) filter to just silently block connections to TikTok. I use an app called NextDNS that blocks ads system wide but there are options to block games and porn and stuff like that too. Your kid, or anyone really, probably would never think to dig that deep into the system settings to figure it out.

Not to belabour the point but children are the exact demographic who will 100% learn how to get around your block between them and TikTok. Maybe they'll even learn about effective use of google/forums in order to do so in the process. It will take them maybe an hour tops. You will probably never even know that they've done this because they'll get around it in a sneakier way than your implementation of it.

When I was 12 the most valuable cultural currency at school was knowing the steps to get around the content blockers in the library computers in order to be able to get onto Miniclip or what have you (and also the shortcuts to quickly hide stuff if a teacher walked by).

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


There's an old line about how if you want to know how to disable any internet security layer, ask a school class. As soon as one person figures it out the whole thing spreads. When I was in school everyone knew about this one path to look at porn on the school computers that followed a convoluted hyperlink chain from the front page of Lycos that completely went around the filter system. Everyone knew how to access the various games the IT techs installed on the network share in case of boredom, that's how I first played Doom.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
“Found a copy of Doom installed on the school network” crew representing.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


In all honesty we all played the version of Cluedo that was on there more because it had FMV murder scenes whenever you made a suggestion.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Boris Galerkin posted:

I don’t know how savvy your kids are but you could also do something like set up a dns(?) filter to just silently block connections to TikTok. I use an app called NextDNS that blocks ads system wide but there are options to block games and porn and stuff like that too. Your kid, or anyone really, probably would never think to dig that deep into the system settings to figure it out.

My eero system has a bunch of filtering stuff, but when something doesn’t load for them, they just turn Wi-Fi off.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Yeah and NextDNS works on both WiFi and cellular. When something is blocked there’s no indication that it’s blocked. It just doesn’t load. There’s nothing saying “this website has been blocked by your administrator”. Unless your kid already knows what dns is, something 99% of the population don’t know, they would have absolutely no reason to poke around for these options or even know to change them.

Blurb3947
Sep 30, 2022

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

My eero system has a bunch of filtering stuff, but when something doesn’t load for them, they just turn Wi-Fi off.

The nice thing about NextDNS is that the filters will work both on and off WiFi so unless the kid knows that DNS is the one doing the blocking and change it to a different one, it's going to be a decent solution.

Jamf would work well too but the kids are probably going to wipe the phone and go through a ton of hoops just so they don't have those blocks lol

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

njsykora posted:

There's an old line about how if you want to know how to disable any internet security layer, ask a school class. As soon as one person figures it out the whole thing spreads. When I was in school everyone knew about this one path to look at porn on the school computers that followed a convoluted hyperlink chain from the front page of Lycos that completely went around the filter system. Everyone knew how to access the various games the IT techs installed on the network share in case of boredom, that's how I first played Doom.

Turns out you’re not allowed to run a cgi proxy for your school via your home computer

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!


Turned off all this poo poo I hope my phone doesn’t give me a heart attack today from a sudden loud alert.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
I wish Canada could do that... :smith:

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
My 2020 SE is close to kicking the bucket so I guess its time for me to get a modern phone. I still have many dongles, chargers, etc, with the Lightning port, so would it be safe to say that I should look at the 14 line and not the 15?

I am also not a fan of huge phones/huge screens but I would love huge battery life. It has been years since I've a/b-ed phones but it seems like the iPhone 14 Pro might be my best bet?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Otis Reddit posted:

My 2020 SE is close to kicking the bucket so I guess its time for me to get a modern phone. I still have many dongles, chargers, etc, with the Lightning port, so would it be safe to say that I should look at the 14 line and not the 15?

I am also not a fan of huge phones/huge screens but I would love huge battery life. It has been years since I've a/b-ed phones but it seems like the iPhone 14 Pro might be my best bet?

The chargers should have swappable cords, so changing them to usb-c shouldn't be an issue. As for the dongles, put them up on samart/fb market/etc and upgrade. Also the 14 pro and Max are the heaviest iphones in their size class. Just get a 15. The 48>12mp image cropping gives you a free telephoto option, usb-c supports faster charging, and it's a modern connector instead of a standard Apple was already moving away from. The peak brightness outdoors is higher, too.

As for size, it's only 4mm wider. 3mm if you get a 15 pro, which is the narrowest non-SE phone Apple sells now.
Or you can geta used 13 mini, which is narrower than the SE, uses lightning, gets brighter, and has considerably better battery life

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 4, 2023

glassyalabolas
Oct 21, 2006
I want to bowl with the gangsters...

17.0.3 is out. Cool your iPhone with this easy download.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006

Mister Facetious posted:

The chargers should have swappable cords, so changing them to usb-c shouldn't be an issue. As for the dongles, put them up on samart/fb market/etc and upgrade. Also the 14 pro and Max are the heaviest iphones in their size class. Just get a 15. The 48>12mp image cropping gives you a free telephoto option, usb-c supports faster charging, and it's a modern connector instead of a standard Apple was already moving away from. The peak brightness outdoors is higher, too.

As for size, it's only 4mm wider. 3mm if you get a 15 pro, which is the narrowest non-SE phone Apple sells now.
Or you can geta used 13 mini, which is narrower than the SE, uses lightning, gets brighter, and has considerably better battery life

This is great info, thank you. I hadn't considered the 13 mini. Is there any sort of matrix comparing these attributes across 13/14/15 and the various permutations? The only piece that would give me pause with a used phone is the battery life. Right now mine is pitiful even after having it replaced with a third party battery a few months back.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

It appears that there is now a StandBy options menu in Settings in the 17.1 beta 2.
And the new ring tones are BACK!

hatty
Feb 28, 2011

Pork Pro
They brought back the ringtones too

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Blurb3947 posted:

Jamf would work well too but the kids are probably going to wipe the phone and go through a ton of hoops just so they don't have those blocks lol

Apple making a family sized shard of ABM would be a killer app for a future iCloud+ release.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Blurb3947 posted:

The nice thing about NextDNS is that the filters will work both on and off WiFi so unless the kid knows that DNS is the one doing the blocking and change it to a different one, it's going to be a decent solution.

Jamf would work well too but the kids are probably going to wipe the phone and go through a ton of hoops just so they don't have those blocks lol

I don't know if you can do it with Jamf Now, but in the normal Jamf Pro, you can put the devices in an automatic enrollment that forces them into your mdm after a wipe like that. You can also restrict the ability for users to even wipe the device in the first place, but there's ways around that using a computer to boot the phone into dfu mode (or whatever it's called now). You can also setup an activation lock so after a wipe like that they would need an Apple ID to finish the setup. have find my/activation lock setup with your Apple ID.


Ultimately, like in a work environment there's only so much you can do in using technology to solve a people problem.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Boris Galerkin posted:



Turned off all this poo poo I hope my phone doesn’t give me a heart attack today from a sudden loud alert.

lol that’s bullshit those settings didn’t do poo poo.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Oct 4, 2023

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

This can suck my dick and gently caress off



withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Sorry, you can't opt out of spreading the Marburg Virus.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

MarcusSA posted:

This can suck my dick and gently caress off





Look at this guy who doesn’t wanna know about the next 9/11 so he can be in on the ground floor of posting about it smh

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I feel like it was a bad decision to make the noise so loud and annoying that no one reads the alert, they just flail around on their phone trying to get it to shut the gently caress up.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
Held the Pro Max in the Apple Store the other day and have come to the conclusion that until there’s a gesture that makes the control centre reachable when using the phone in your left hand, I can straight up never buy the big phone.

I don’t get how they don’t just let you pick which corner you can swipe down from to get it, it’s not like it’ll conflict with anything else.

Though frankly, a swipe from the bottom would be MUCH more comfortable at any size.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

You can double tap the back.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

Aphrodite posted:

You can double tap the back.
I forgot all about that gesture! I always got the feeling that it was constantly trigger accidentally.

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Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum
There’s also the Reachability shortcut, swipe down off the bottom of the phone to bring the UI down, then swipe control center as normal.

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