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One failed acquisition to mention is QLogic, the only competitor to Mellanox at the time. That also did not last long. I think they could not keep up with the Mellanox bandwidths. There were some integrations of the fabric on Xeons (and Xeon Phis?), but those were too buggy to use for quite a while. The Brian era was also one where Intel was seen as capped out. Gov & Enterprise (aka on-premise) was dropping off a cliff, Client was starting its downward trend and Datacenter was the only thing growing Intel's business. Analysts were looking at Intel's ~98% market share in datacenter and wondering if they should invest in NVIDIA instead as that at least had growth potential. Acquiring companies seemed to be one part finance engineering and another part trying to grow the total addressable market by throwing cash at it: interconnects, server enclosures, fpga, storage x2, AI x2, IoT (remember their x86 arduino), realsense, ... Not to mention crap like McKafee.
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They also brought the Cray interconnects around when they bought the QLogic Infiniband biz (not all of QLogic.) QLogic IB eventually became Omnipath. They had 200G OPA ready to launch around when 200G HDR was available but Intel cancelled the product line in anticipation of an Ethernet future that never arrived. The on socket OPA was underwhelming; it just hung off of regular pcie lanes and now you had to figure out how to get that from the socket to the cable in the back and if your NIC died you lost the expensive CPU.
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how can anyone forget DRONES! and Intel Sports???
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Don’t forgot the director of creative innovation, Will.I.Am!
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WhyteRyce posted:how can anyone forget DRONES! and Intel Sports??? I seem to recall intel bought a company that was in the same area I was working (across the street) who were doing sports wearables and then a short time later shut it all down. It was a really small startup like 20-30 people max. This was early in the 00s, like 03-04 maybe.
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Intel bought Basis for wearables and made very little effort to actual promote them or do anything with them other than burn people’s skin Someone asked BK in a company meeting if they thought of giving one to everyone in the company so employees could talk them up to their family and friends because otherwise at the time why would anyone buy a wearable other than Fitbit. BK just said if you want one buy it yourself (with a 15% discount off retail at the employee page) Which reminds me, BK/Intel did some “we need all employees to really shill how great our products and company is to friends and family” campaign but didn’t give out any extra special discounts or swag to make that happen. Like, they just wanted employees to bring it up organically when talking at dinner or whatever Oh and they also worked with 50 cent on some smart headphones that no one bought WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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WhyteRyce posted:Intel bought Basis for wearables and made very little effort to actual promote them or integrate them or learn from them I would’ve thought that Intel of all companies would love dogfooding.
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I kind of expect around now that somebody at marketing in Intel is trying to make a deal for Grumpy Cat, who has been dead for 3-4 years, and they will drag the carcass out for some commercials and stuff. It's about the right delay between popularity and Intel jumping on board with it.hobbesmaster posted:I would’ve thought that Intel of all companies would love dogfooding. I guess they're treating part of the dogfooding process as having to make the decision to buy the thing (and then deciding not to buy it).
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hobbesmaster posted:I would’ve thought that Intel of all companies would love dogfooding. The disconnect between the poo poo they crammed into AMT and advertised vs. what their poo poo tier IT actually used was stark. Same with the “hey companies refresh your fleet look how productive your employees will be…no please don’t ask why our employees are on 4+ year refresh cycles” The core product was CPUs and they used to be really good at that with discounts and free samples (until SKL at least where PMs all of a sudden got lazy or scared to ask for any for the team).
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I kind of expect around now that somebody at marketing in Intel is trying to make a deal for Grumpy Cat, who has been dead for 3-4 years, and they will drag the carcass out for some commercials and stuff. It's about the right delay between popularity and Intel jumping on board with it. Grumpy HoloCat, powered by Intel Arc (of the Covenant)
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SourKraut posted:Grumpy HoloCat, powered by Intel Arc (of the Covenant) First generation actor resurrection tech: Holographic Tupac Second generation: Deepfake Tarkin Third generation: Grumpy Cat
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Kazinsal posted:First generation actor resurrection tech: Holographic Tupac Fourth generation: ChatGPT Gordon Moore
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1711447163916738580?t=JQtP7NsMj9x5JIl-h4Le4g&s=19 Since this is just a refresh, i wouldn't expect too much huge to change vs the 13900K. Intel is claiming parity between the 14900K and 7950X3D: quote:DOTA 2: 77%
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likewise it ended up in every GPU benchmark suite for a while because it was one of the first games to properly support DX12 and lean on async compute nobody has ever actually played it
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Cygni posted:Since this is just a refresh, i wouldn't expect too much huge to change vs the 13900K. Intel is claiming parity between the 14900K and 7950X3D: no raptor lake-n parts, huh? those alder lane-n parts might be more limited than i originally thought. guess I'd better grab that n305 box once they all magically restock after prime day. Also, which part is the baseline, and which part is relative scaling in those percentages? SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Oct 10, 2023 |
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Cygni posted:Since this is just a refresh, i wouldn't expect too much huge to change vs the 13900K. Intel is claiming parity between the 14900K and 7950X3D: Right? E: Then which SKU will have parity with the 7800x3d? 
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SwissArmyDruid posted:no raptor lake-n parts, huh? those alder lane-n parts might be more limited than i originally thought. guess I'd better grab that n305 box once they all magically restock after prime day. Raptor Lake and Alder Lake use the same e-core design as the N series parts, Gracemont, so there really isn't a "Raptor Lake N". Crestmont is the next design, coming out with Meteor Lake end of this year or early next. So any N series update is probably a ways away.
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Alder lake-n should be around for a while, it’s trying to be pushed into long life embedded stuff.
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Raptor Lake Refresh launches tomorrow. Same socket, same motherboards as 13th gen, because its basically the same. Only the 14700K is really any different in core config, getting 4 more e-cores and associated cache. A few small changes in boosting maxes. Haven't heard confirmation on whether DLVR is on or not, probably will find out tomorrow. Current prices:  Prices are the same as 13th gen. So I guess you might as well get the new ones if you are building in the next few months, assuming the 13th parts don't get discounts... which they probably will. Sometime around summer/fall next year, AMD will launch Zen 5 and intel will launch Arrow Lake/LGA 1851, which will both represent their respective companies "big swings". But things are pretty much status quo on desktop until then, with only an AMD APU launch expected.
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Cygni posted:Sometime around summer/fall next year, AMD will launch Zen 5 and intel will launch Arrow Lake/LGA 1851, which will both represent their respective companies "big swings". But things are pretty much status quo on desktop until then, with only an AMD APU launch expected. A-ha! That's when the GPUs will get cheaper too and I'll finally be able to retire my Ivy Bridge/GTX1070 machine!
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There are some decent 200bux GPUs from Intel and AMD on the market right now. I did not regret picking up that Arc750 as a stop-gap when I stepped from Ivy Bridge to Raptor Lake.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:I see the power consumption continues to be woefully excessive It's better on the non-K parts, the Intel -K parts are just fully overclocked out the rear end from the factory now.
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Intel: Max Turbo Power (W): Yes. About what I expected.
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Indiana_Krom posted:Intel: Max Turbo Power (W): Yes. Run your desktop and dryer from the same outlet.
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so there's no 14th gen i3? and no i5-14400 either?
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gradenko_2000 posted:so there's no 14th gen i3? yields too good?
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gradenko_2000 posted:so there's no 14th gen i3? There might be eventually, normally those parts launch later anyway. Intel has led with -K parts for a while now. There also might never be those parts, because this is a tiny update and the meat of the client market is in laptops, which are getting a full update on a new, smaller process and ditching the Core i5, i7 branding completely: https://www.anandtech.com/show/20046/intel-unveils-meteor-lake-architecture-intel-4-heralds-the-disaggregated-future-of-mobile-cpus This batch of desktop chips might be the last CPUs to get branded Core i7 ever. Edit: Videocardz is not a great source but apparently we do get a full desktop lineup: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-accidentally-confirms-entire-14th-gen-core-desktop-cpu-lineup-before-launch Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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What in the world https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-make-arm-based-pc-chips-major-new-challenge-intel-2023-10-23/ So will AMD have both Arm and x86 based CPUs? Won't this cannibalize from their x86 line? Plus they'd presumably have to pay Arm royalties?
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priznat posted:What in the world AMD already did this already: https://www.anandtech.com/show/9956/the-silver-lining-of-the-late-amd-opteron-a1100-arrival https://www.anandtech.com/show/7990/amd-announces-k12-core-custom-64bit-arm-design-in-2016 
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Everything old is new again! I guess the main interesting thing is NVidia getting in on it, which isn't surprising they have been dipping toes and more into full on CPUs for a while now especially with the attempted buyout of Arm.
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priznat posted:What in the world I mean, K12 was definitely a going concern for a while. It wouldn’t surprise me if AMD sees the way the wind is blowing and wants in on that ARM money, royalties to ARM be damned.
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