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Oct 5, 2023 01:29
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I do wash my rice. In a giant pot of boiling water. For real tho I only do that if I'm too busy to do the whole ritual for my overpriced Japanese rice cooker.
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Oct 5, 2023 01:55
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Food is overrated imo Only eat that poo poo to survive 
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Oct 5, 2023 02:09
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50 arty pieces were dunked today. That's like 4% of the artillery that Russia is operating in Ukraine. Today was also the highest casualty rate on the side of the Russians in a month. So their counter offensive is working out great.
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Oct 5, 2023 03:24
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:50 arty pieces were dunked today. If so 
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Oct 5, 2023 03:54
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EorayMel posted:If so Want some more? The black sea fleet is leaving Sevastopol. And they are not patrolling the blockade. They left Bulgarian and Romanian waters and stopped jamming cell comms as of two days ago. The fleet is moving to novorossiysk. Most likely due to the fact that the docks are non functioning and they can't service any ships that get hit on the port. Crimea is now under a technical naval blockade as the fleet fled. Ukraine has blockaded the sevastopol port without having a navy. The source you can read is paywalled on WSJ. Things are normal on Russia. Undue alarm is undue. https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1709627838431887364 WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 04:36
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:
And as I understand it Novorossiysk isn't a great port because Nature can gently caress over the ships there due to the terrain, especially in the winter.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:44
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:The fleet is moving to novorossiysk. Most likely due to the fact that the docks are non functioning and they can't service any ships that get hit on the port. So I guess that means Ukraine has won the decisive battle and now have control of the sea? I think Mahn would say they have now won the war.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:48
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:50 arty pieces were dunked today. There is something very wrong about that calculation. Ukraine have been claiming to destroy between 20-40 artillery pieces a days for several months. If 50 is 4% then it would all have been destroyed ages ago. Either they aren't destroying that many or there is lots more.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:51
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Beffer posted:There is something very wrong about that calculation. Ukraine have been claiming to destroy between 20-40 artillery pieces a days for several months. If 50 is 4% then it would all have been destroyed ages ago. Either they aren't destroying that many or there is lots more. There's well over 4K worth of pieces still in various shapes in Russia. Not counting what is rolling off the factories. Ukraine has destroyed like 7,000 piece of arty which is almost half of what Russia has pre war. So you are right. There are a lot more but they are in various shapes. Refurbing takes time and the replacements are becoming scarcer and scarcer. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 05:53
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Oh good. The Jim Jones play.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:53
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Beffer posted:There is something very wrong about that calculation. Ukraine have been claiming to destroy between 20-40 artillery pieces a days for several months. If 50 is 4% then it would all have been destroyed ages ago. Either they aren't destroying that many or there is lots more. Have they been claiming 20-40 every day, or just on particularly big days? Also, bear in mind that Russia had several thousand mothballed artillery pieces over and above what it had in service and it has been pulling them out of storage en masse, so destroying a couple percent of the artillery currently in theater per day could still be a very long process. That said, I'm sure there's some inflation in the number of kills claimed just due to the fog of war, same as it always has been.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:55
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the holy poopacy posted:Have they been claiming 20-40 every day, or just on particularly big days? Every day. I read Noelreports twitter account each morning which includes the kill count of equipment. It has been over 20 every day for months. I assume there is a significant level of inflated claims. The more interesting thing is that there is an upward trend. A few months ago 30 was a big day, then that became routine, and now they are routinely claiming over 40 every day. The nearly 50 today is the biggest number I've seen.
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Oct 5, 2023 05:59
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Beffer posted:There is something very wrong about that calculation. Ukraine have been claiming to destroy between 20-40 artillery pieces a days for several months. If 50 is 4% then it would all have been destroyed ages ago. Either they aren't destroying that many or there is lots more. Someone did a post recently (here or in the D&D thread) showing the storage depots for Russian artillery pieces in Russia, and they're getting pretty heavily into the "Depleted" side of things. Russia did inherit an awful lot of soviet equipment, but a combination of grift and lack of care on the Russian side left a lot of it degraded to the point where it's no longer serviceable, and then on the other side Ukraine has been doing a very good job in reducing equipment to scrap metal at a pretty good pace, means that "inexhaustible" supply that Russia started out with is... now quite exhaustible. Particularly since a lot of the firefinder/counterbattery radars were blown up earlier on, coupled with severely worn barrels reducing accuracy, means Russia is needing to move more artillery closer to the front to try and cover combat operations, leaving it more vulnerable to Ukrainian counterbattery fire. It's a cycle that just gets worse (for Russia) by the day - the more they're degraded the closer they have to get, the closer they have to get the more they're degraded. At some point the numbers are going to start going back down consistently, because there simply won't be much left for Ukraine to convert to slag. At that point, things get interesting again. [edit] I'll elaborate on "interesting". Currently the southern front has fallen into a bit of a routine - Ukraine launches an attack on a trenchline/treeline, using a few APC's and dismounted infantry to storm the trench and overwhelm the Russian infantry defending them. Once they've taken the trenchline, they pull the vehicles back and most of the infantry ahead of the usual Russian resonse of (inaccurate but massed) artillery fire. Russia then counterattacks to retake the trench and Ukraine either withdraws it's infantry, or counters the counterattack and gains permanent control over it, repeat next trenchline. This is broken up by periodic "large" Russian counterattacks with massed infantry and some armor support, but that ... has not gone well for Russia. Repeatedly. So. What happens when Russian artillery is depleted, and the response to Ukraine taking a trench, is a few (still inaccurate) shells splatting around the field, rather than a massive barrage? At that point it might make sense to roll armor through in a breakthrough attempt - The minefields ahead of the trenches, combined with the massive artillery fire barrages, is what blunted Ukraines early western-style massed armor counteroffensive pushes. If they are able to negate the minefields (like they have been) and then push beyind them without fear of heavy artillery response, I would suspect then would be a very good time to try and catch some Russian units off guard, and maybe overrun some supply depots. Doccers fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 06:02
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Imagine the Russian equipment as a bowl of water that is constantly being filled. But you keep drilling holes in it. Eventually the water coming from the holes will be so much that the flow of water out of the bowl causes the water level to go down instead of maintain. We are juuuuust about at the "the holes are larger than the spigot", point.
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Oct 5, 2023 06:08
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1709786876033343930#m Another temper tantrum was thrown using Iranian drones last night. Ukraine shot down 24 of 29. In response, parts of Kursk oblast are now without power.
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Oct 5, 2023 06:33
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Imagine the Russian equipment as a bowl of water that is constantly being filled. To clarify, destroying 50 arty pieces today might be 4% of Russia's units in Ukraine. 5 months ago those same 50 units might have been only 2%, and a year ago maybe only 0.25%. Like mentioned above, the more units that are destroyed (at the same numbers) are now accounting for a higher percentage of what's left. So those 50 units in a few more months might be 10% of what Russia has fielded in Ukraine at that point in time.
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Oct 5, 2023 06:43
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Lol, that's some lazy performative gas masking.
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Oct 5, 2023 07:32
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1709610322816811400#m My Spirit Otter posted:"thanks vik, all opposed? ok, motion fails, next order of business is..." "Reducing the EU aid to Hungary. We have to take into account that Russia is also funding Orban."
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Oct 5, 2023 07:34
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Oldsmobile posted:Seems like lack of ammo is not only a huge problem for Ukraine, but for the US and EU too. They're emptying their warehouses and not enough new ammo is being made. I mean, Finland almost definitely has artillery shells to spare. Our stockpiles are legendary and our gunner conscripts get to fire a LOT of shells during their 6-12 months just to keep our old stock from going bad. But it's mostly for Soviet made guns which we previously used, our own home made systems, or for the South Korean K9 Thunder, and I'm not sure how compatible it is with what Ukraine are using these days. And of course there may be some anxiety about emptying our stockpiles, just in case Putin decides to invade us next. But we could probably spare more ammo. Doccers posted:Someone did a post recently (here or in the D&D thread) showing the storage depots for Russian artillery pieces in Russia, and they're getting pretty heavily into the "Depleted" side of things. Might have been my post here. The satellite images for some Russian equipment farms are definitely showing a lot of empty space and dismantled for parts equipment. And yes, this is all old stuff from the 1960s and whatnot, so it looks like they are running through their stocks at a decent clip. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 07:48
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Might have been my post here. The satellite images for some Russian equipment farms are definitely showing a lot of empty space and dismantled for parts equipment. Perun paid for satellite time to also check on the depletion so that's another good resource confirming the large reduction in availible Russian equipment. While Russia certainly hasnt run out of tubes to fire poo poo, they are clearly burning through a *lot*
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Oct 5, 2023 08:23
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lol that randoes can do SATINT even if that perun guy aint quite a rando
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Oct 5, 2023 08:25
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Post WWII the soviets had so many extra artillery barrels left over that they converted a lot of them into pressure vessels for scientific research. It is just astonishing how much materiel there was left
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Oct 5, 2023 09:13
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Yle released an interview about this very topic yesterday. Not that much new necessarily in it, but interesting as they do interview actual artillery officers with experience. This however just goes to show that "shoot fewer times but actually hit your target" always will win over "shoot constantly but only hit sometimes", because you can destroy your opponents capability to do the latter if you can do the first. Authors: Justas Stasevskij Release date: 04.10.23 Link to untranslated article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20053606 quote:Ukraine says it has destroyed as many Russian cannons as there is Finnish artillery in total all in a month and a half - artillery expert: The change is radical
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Oct 5, 2023 09:13
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Oldsmobile posted:I still have trouble understanding why that particular pastry reminded them of eating a baby's head.
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Oct 5, 2023 09:30
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Tunicate posted:Post WWII the soviets had so many extra artillery barrels left over that they converted a lot of them into pressure vessels for scientific research. Same with post cold war US and spy sats for hire apparently lmao Remember to walk around your USCOM NATSEC AFFDDEGSSQ unit and take photos so they don't claim you scratched it!
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Oct 5, 2023 09:55
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hubble main lens is the cia's leftovers
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Oct 5, 2023 10:00
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So this Armenia thing in the NK region where there are reports of 100k people being ethinically cleansed by Az while it's ally, Russia did gently caress all to help and let the whole thing play out. Yet this is NATO's fault because it didn't do anything. I love tankie twitter.
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Oct 5, 2023 12:33
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But Armenia is outside NATO's sphere of influence?
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Oct 5, 2023 12:48
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Tai posted:So this Armenia thing in the NK region where there are reports of 100k people being ethinically cleansed by Az while it's ally, Russia did gently caress all to help and let the whole thing play out. Yet this is NATO's fault because it didn't do anything. Add to that Russia was in Baku earlier this week presenting all its plans for space they’ll never achieve, even after the Azeris greased a bunch of Russian peacekeepers.
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Oct 5, 2023 13:09
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https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1709915864835797138#m Russian barbarians bombed a village and killed nearly 50 people. Words can't describe my fury right now.
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Oct 5, 2023 14:20
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https://twitter.com/den_kazansky/status/1709823704241246305 Something about "never again?" anyone?
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Oct 5, 2023 14:37
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zone posted:https://twitter.com/den_kazansky/status/1709823704241246305 Gubarev needs a visitvfrom Mr. HIMARS.
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Oct 5, 2023 14:41
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So it's pretty obvious that the Ukranians want the Taurus missile not only to strike at logistic hubs, but to strike at the Crimea Bridge. I've read that Scholz is hesitant to send the missiles because of the latter point. So if Ukraine did get them eve tally, what's to stop Germany from placing that restriction on Ukraine?
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Oct 5, 2023 14:51
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Willo567 posted:So it's pretty obvious that the Ukranians want the Taurus missile not only to strike at logistic hubs, but to strike at the Crimea Bridge. I've read that Scholz is hesitant to send the missiles because of the latter point. So if Ukraine did get them eve tally, what's to stop Germany from placing that restriction on Ukraine? How could Germany stop them? Whatever promises they get or consequences they threaten, Ukraine might still decide it’s worth taking out the bridge. E: can you region lock a cruise missile? Asking for a freund
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Oct 5, 2023 14:59
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ought ten posted:How could Germany stop them? Whatever promises they get or consequences they threaten, Ukraine might still decide it’s worth taking out the bridge. They could threaten not to supply Ukraine with more if they break their agreement with Germany. The U.S. supplies weapons to Ukraine on the agreement that they aren't used on Russia territory, and Ukraine hasn't broken that promise. Also, Germany may refuse to provide precise coordinates for targets they don't want Ukraine to hit. Ukraine says that the U.S. does the same with HIMARS and it would also apply to ATACMS https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/09/ukraine-himars-rocket-artillery-russia/ Willo567 fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 15:04
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Right. The way I really should have framed that is with respect to Germany’s calculus in the decision. Does Scholz believe that’s a big enough threat to stop Ukraine? There won’t be zero risk of Ukraine breaking an agreement. What risk will Germany accept?
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Oct 5, 2023 15:11
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Willo567 posted:They could threaten not to supply Ukraine with more if they break their agreement with Germany. The U.S. supplies weapons to Ukraine on the agreement that they aren't used on Russia territory, and Ukraine hasn't broken that promise. No worries the Brits and the French give zero fucks about hitting Crimea so they can just save Taurus for targets in mainland Ukraine
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Oct 5, 2023 15:13
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Willo567 posted:Also, Germany may refuse to provide precise coordinates for targets they don't want Ukraine to hit. Ukraine says that the U.S. does the same with HIMARS and it would also apply to ATACMS Sorry for the double reply. I was addressing targeting the Kerch Bridge specifically (which is what you first asked about). I don’t think Ukraine needs targeting data for the bridge.
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Oct 5, 2023 15:19
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Tai posted:No worries the Brits and the French give zero fucks about hitting Crimea so they can just save Taurus for targets in mainland Ukraine Taurus is longer range than Storm Shadow though? I imagine the range is one reason why Ukraine would really like get Taurus, makes targets like the Kerch bridge much easier
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