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DesertIslandHermit posted:I haven't watched anime in a bit but I'm stoked for the Delicious in Dungeon anime. Friends tell me the manga is pretty good and just finished so I might pick that up. Just from focusing on the mundane details of reality like how to cook and prepare monsters away from civilization, Dungeon Meshi builds up a completely fully realized fantasy world that feels fully OF ITSELF despite all the obvious inspirations it's drawing from. It's peak fiction.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Just from focusing on the mundane details of reality like how to cook and prepare monsters away from civilization, Dungeon Meshi builds up a completely fully realized fantasy world that feels fully OF ITSELF despite all the obvious inspirations it's drawing from. It's peak fiction. It also uses the social aspects of cooking and eating to flesh out fully realized characters that you get to know very well
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DavidPro wheres my part 7 teaser need to see those horses
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also laios is just a wonderful absolute weirdo dudes rock
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I don't get why Mushoku Tensei is so popular because every thing I hear about it makes it sound like one of the most dogshit things I've ever heard of in my life but people on western anime sites and anime reviewers eat it up.
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it's edgy slop and i think pretty high quality production? teenagers love that poo poo
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Whirling posted:I don't get why Mushoku Tensei is so popular because every thing I hear about it makes it sound like one of the most dogshit things I've ever heard of in my life but people on western anime sites and anime reviewers eat it up. i don't see how that's confusing in any way
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It's an isekai that does try to make a fantasy world that is not just straight up a copy of dragon quest where conflict is solved by ''somehow I reincarnated with all my stats at 9999'' which sadly puts it above a good chunk of the slop. Which is quite damning for the genre tbqh
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January 6 Survivor posted:It's an isekai that does try to make a fantasy world that is not just straight up a copy of dragon quest where conflict is solved by ''somehow I reincarnated with all my stats at 9999'' which sadly puts it above a good chunk of the slop. It’s also the thing that a lot of isekai copied in the first place. Which is funny because it doesn’t actually use most of what have become staples of the genre The show is indeed really cringey at the beginning because the protagonist is a total creep (and was a socially and emotionally damaged hikikomori in his past life), but it’s an intentional choice. You’re supposed to think that he’s a really hosed up dude and half the plot is him slowly learning to be a halfway decent human being over time. I wouldn’t even call it edgy because it’s a fairly standard fantasy setting, but the plot goes to some interesting places and the protagonist actually has to struggle and work for things. Also yeah it helps that the production values are really loving high and they got some of the best talent in the business to put it together For me, it falls in the same category as Monogatari where if you can look past the skeevier elements it’s a really compelling story with some excellent writing, but I’ll never actually recommend it to anyone I know in person Kit Walker has issued a correction as of 15:28 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Mushoku Tensei's influence on the genre is severely overstated. Its first webnovel version only came out in 2012, well after most of the influential isekai stories - Sword Art Online, which started the isekai boom (despite not technically being an isekai story) first started publishing all the way back in 2002. Even more modern and subversive stuff like Re:Zero slightly predates it.
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yeah but jobless reincarnation has the muscled wolf lady
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kinda happy with myself i don't actually know poo poo about it beyond that ngl
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Darkly hilarious that the sexy older lady in the weird paedo show is called Ghislaine.
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Darth Walrus posted:Darkly hilarious that the sexy older lady in the weird paedo show is called Ghislaine. holy gently caress
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Kit Walker posted:For me, it falls in the same category as Monogatari where if you can look past the skeevier elements it’s a really compelling story with some excellent writing, but I’ll never actually recommend it to anyone I know in person I remember when the teeth brushing thing was going around as a meme for awhile, but then I watched the show and got to that scene and it's insanely well animated and directed and written and acted. Just an insane amount of talent going into making this scene where a guy erotically brushes his sister's teeth
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Darth Walrus posted:Darkly hilarious that the sexy older lady in the weird paedo show is called Ghislaine. lmfao
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Whirling posted:I don't get why Mushoku Tensei is so popular because every thing I hear about it makes it sound like one of the most dogshit things I've ever heard of in my life but people on western anime sites and anime reviewers eat it up. it puts non-zero effort into making it plausible that the romance interest girls would actually like the protagonist in spite of his flaws and not just for his powers or things he did for them from a position of privilege, which is more than 95% of what has followed in its steps as far as isekai harem builders. that does make it more watchable than that stuff if that’s what else was on the menu to begin with it’s offputting to actually think about that tho, to recognize that some degree of craft has gone into the specific goal of making this fantasy of a man with a second chance at life mainly structuring it around the pursuit of teen sex palatable. so people are willing to repeat the claim that there’s some kind of redemptive journey going on, but that’s really just not true
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Oct 5, 2023 16:16
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its very funny they made the loser virgin guy a very powerful wizard
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I wish they made isekai for women and adults
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tokin opposition posted:I wish they made isekai for women and adults probably exist but nobody translated it $$$$$
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tokin opposition posted:I wish they made isekai for women and adults Ascendance of a Bookworm Also, My Next Life as a Villainess
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tokin opposition posted:I wish they made isekai for women and adults That's who all those villainess isekais are for. Or, much older, The Twelve Kingdoms, which is apparently a very good fantasy drama, and Magic Knight Rayearth, which is apparently a very good magical girl mecha show.
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tokin opposition posted:I wish they made isekai for women and adults the otome game villainess subgenre is mostly that. well women who are social children i guess but who isn’t these days
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MT’s biggest problem is that once it gets adapted off the page and into a visual medium like manga and anime, the spectacle overwhelms the subtext. objectively it’s a story that condemns the protagonist for his own perverted sense of self-entitlement and his complicity with the injustices of the other world, but once it gets turned into an anime then there has to be fanservice because that’s what the market demands. if MT was as influential as people claim it is there’d be a lot less unironically self-indulgent isekai where the hero buys a slave and it’s just so because it’s legal anyway. in MT they buy a slave for the express purpose of mass producing merchandise, and it’s a disgusting process that degrades everybody involved. Ruijerd is the closest character in isekai there is to John Brown. but the anime has to try to have its cake and eat it too. it condemns the viewer for indulging in the fantasy while also rewarding them for it. Kit Walker posted:Ascendance of a Bookworm Ascendance of a Bookworm is a lot like Dungeon Meshi in the sense that its focus on the mundane details of domestic life help make it a more fully realized world. that focus on real world material issues and the class dynamics of feudalism is enough to make it a Marxist text. it’s a literal material dialectic. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 17:11 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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watch tearmoon empire this season. it’s not technically isekai but the setting is in conversation with the otome game setting stuff and it’s also a second chance story, but it doesn’t take anything seriously that it knows can’t actually be sustained
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my 9 yo kid wants to watch One Piece is there any weird anime stuff in it
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:but the anime has to try to have its cake and eat it too. it condemns the viewer for indulging in the fantasy while also rewarding them for it. three cakes, even
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this allusion meant posted:the otome game villainess subgenre is mostly that. well women who are social children i guess but who isn’t these days yeah there's like 50 isekai series about being reborn as the protagonist, antagonist, or nameless side character in an otome game
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euphronius posted:my 9 yo kid wants to watch One Piece It's got a bit more gore and sexual content than most Western kids' shows, but it's still very much a kids' show, and your nine-year-old is within the target demographic.
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tokin opposition posted:I wish they made isekai for women and adults if you mean in this season, definitely "I'm in Love with the Villainess" and maybe "The Saint's Magic Power is Omnipotent" but i haven't seen the first season of that one yet
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euphronius posted:my 9 yo kid wants to watch One Piece lots of fanservice in the later arcs but they should be fine with the earlier stuff. I wouldn’t really recommend it until they’re teenaged. what’s incredible about One Piece is actually how little weird anime stuff is in it, despite Oda’s aesthetic tastes. it’s one of those mangas that people who don’t like anime end up being really into.
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one piece is anime as all gently caress, actually
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my older kid also said wait until he’s 12 or so . thanks
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euphronius posted:my 9 yo kid wants to watch One Piece There's a, I guess race? of people called Newkamas who are just guys dressed as ladies. The creator insists this is very funny and brings them into the plot a lot. It is somewhat ameliorated by the fact that the two main Newkama characters, Bon Clay and Ivankov, are actually good characters in their own right that the audience roots for. And also that eventually Oda just casually introduces a couple actual trans characters who are extremely cool and their transness is handled well and not made the butt of jokes. So there's a clear delineation between actual trans human beings and Newkama who are, yeah I guess just this weird kind of totally separate thing.
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lady isekais are just as hit and miss as guy isekais but when they miss they don’t leave you wondering how to reconcile their existence with your positions on prison abolition
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this allusion meant posted:lady isekais are just as hit and miss as guy isekais but when they miss they don’t leave you wondering how to reconcile their existence with your positions on prison abolition You sure about that?
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isekai hank hill
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this allusion meant posted:lady isekais are just as hit and miss as guy isekais but when they miss they don’t leave you wondering how to reconcile their existence with your positions on prison abolition didn't Ascendance of a Bookworm get kinda weird about using orphan labor?
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Gripweed posted:There's a, I guess race? of people called Newkamas who are just guys dressed as ladies. The creator insists this is very funny and brings them into the plot a lot. The Newkama aren't just good guys they're also the most revolutionary group of people in the story. The worst part about them is how Sanji's homophobia gets played for laughs instead of his sexism being a fatal character flaw. Gripweed posted:didn't Ascendance of a Bookworm get kinda weird about using orphan labor? The circumstances of the story compel the protagonist to set up a book publishing business so that the female orphans aren't left to starve to death or be exploited as consorts, if that's what you're talking about. The nobles who form the priest class won't even let her do direct charity, so she has to come up with a scheme that has official license. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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