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Oct 4, 2023 12:44
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Yeah, you start by funding a rise up and then coming in to aid them in their legitimate struggle. Don't put the tank before the hearse.
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Oct 4, 2023 17:01
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Neurolimal posted:Most scholars, being human beings, have crank opinions outside their field of expertise. As far as I'm aware none of the sources pertaining to this paper (that you can see, for yourself, by looking at the annotations) have been disputed. You are currently threadbanned and will need to appeal that with me if you wish to post. Edit: To be clear, I'm not saying you're threadbanned for that post, which had nothing wrong, but that you were already threadbanned some time ago. Koos Group fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Oct 4, 2023 |
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Oct 4, 2023 19:21
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https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1709664379312947574 https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1709593787574472918?s=20 Codepink has some interesting bedfellows nowadays. I think this guy has a good take. https://twitter.com/terrelljstarr/status/1709567692921835637?s=20 If you don't like twitter: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1709567692921835637.html Seems to be a lot of coordinated pressure on US Ukraine funding support. Funding had a huge part in the current House chaos with Gaetz. Now MTG is teaming up with feminist activists who vocally support abortion rights to stage protest with alt-right media there to film the promos. Cornel West also headlined the #PeaceInUkraine rally yesterday in DC. All of the usuals are currently engaged. IIRC, there was a deal cut with McCarthy by the Democrats to have a vote on funding Ukraine separately from the budget, or something to that effect. Now with him removed from his position for cutting that deal (among other parts of that) with Democrats, will that vote happen? If he wasn't removed, would that vote have happened this week during these "grassroots" rallies? This idea that Ukraine funding is somehow bleeding America dry is permeating across every weird alt media timeline. Maybe I'm just  about it or getting algorithm'd.
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Oct 5, 2023 00:37
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Codepink's shown a preference for aligning with authoritarian regimes for quite awhile now- I remember them staging events while working with Maduro's press outlets back when we had a Venezuela thread. This is likely more of the same. https://twitter.com/florida_sophia/status/1709374479208427791 Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 00:40
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And, as always, it's easy to yell "negotiate peace" on
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Oct 5, 2023 00:45
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And they're planning to protest in Russia too? You'd think they would know they should start there. A lot of the aid was old stuff that was laying around, these people seem to overestimate the amount of aid by at least a factor of 10.
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Oct 5, 2023 01:18
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Funny how they're all calling for Ukraine to stop resisting, not for Russia to withdraw its forces. I wonder why that it...
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Oct 5, 2023 01:22
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I propose a "Post your map" rule for anyone calling for a peace settlement specifically to point out how dumb it is
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Oct 5, 2023 01:26
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SpeedFreek posted:And they're planning to protest in Russia too? You'd think they would know they should start there. Please, chickens, protest inside the KFC.
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Oct 5, 2023 01:59
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Koos Group posted:You are currently threadbanned and will need to appeal that with me if you wish to post. There has been 5 other posts by this user when they've been threadbanned. And only one post got a 6er for continuing a derailing. And no punishment for any of those posts for posting while threadbanned. Or posting in bad faith (but we can't use that phrase unless we can somehow 100% prove it). Tight ship you're running here... Kalit fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 02:15
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I bet you it was just something innocuous like "nobody reported for a while"
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Oct 5, 2023 02:27
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Moon Slayer posted:And, as always, it's easy to yell "negotiate peace" on War on the Rocks had a guest recently who talked about this, pointing out just how many things has to consider on how many timeframes. It was both very interesting and also he sounded exactly like 90s era Joe Pesci. It was uncanny.
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Oct 5, 2023 02:30
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Koos Group posted:You are currently threadbanned and will need to appeal that with me if you wish to post.
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Oct 5, 2023 03:08
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SpeedFreek posted:And they're planning to protest in Russia too? You'd think they would know they should start there. I've always wondered about this. So does saying the US is allocating $x amount of aid is actually the fiscal representation of the hardware they are sending? Because I remember this video from not that long ago saying the US was paying first responders' salaries and things of that nature. Unless the implication is that because Ukraine does not need to pay for hardware required for the war effort, it can then continue to afford to pay for its civil infrastructure.
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Oct 5, 2023 03:17
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Huggybear posted:I've always wondered about this. So does saying the US is allocating $x amount of aid is actually the fiscal representation of the hardware they are sending? Because I remember this video from not that long ago saying the US was paying first responders' salaries and things of that nature. Unless the implication is that because Ukraine does not need to pay for hardware required for the war effort, it can then continue to afford to pay for its civil infrastructure. Most of it is value of hardware, some is direct aid. Hardware can also be from US stockpiles or US companies, and sometimes it's paying companies in countries like Bulgaria that are actually capable of producing things like artillery shells.
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Oct 5, 2023 03:21
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Staluigi posted:I bet you it was just something innocuous like "nobody reported for a while" It was indeed. Cicero posted:If they were already threadbanned, why did this new post not result in a probe? Didn't seem to be aware they were still threadbanned, and the posts weren't particularly bad, so I offered a warning instead. Further questions or comments about this action may be directed to my private messages.
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Oct 5, 2023 03:44
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Isn’t codepink a known Chinese psyop
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Oct 5, 2023 04:40
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Lunitica posted:Isn’t codepink a known Chinese psyop They weren't always (And thus they protested China's human rights abuses) but then their biggest donor got something (Investigations ongoing) that convinced him to ease off on China
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Oct 5, 2023 04:57
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DarklyDreaming posted:They weren't always (And thus they protested China's human rights abuses) but then their biggest donor got something (Investigations ongoing) that convinced him to ease off on China This article discusses the donor in question in detail, he seems to have set up a network of groups that mediate Chinese propaganda, as well as repurposed more mercenary groups by becoming a primary funding source. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html
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Oct 5, 2023 05:15
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DarklyDreaming posted:I propose a "Post your map" rule for anyone calling for a peace settlement specifically to point out how dumb it is My map is pre seizure of crimea ukraine and russian borders, and a small slice of colorado will be carved out for defentopia.
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Oct 5, 2023 06:22
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Ukraine peacefully assumes control of Northern Ireland.
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Oct 5, 2023 06:24
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Xiahou Dun posted:Ukraine peacefully assumes control of Northern Ireland. Russia has always claimed control of Northern Ireland and the people of Northern Ireland secretly dream of being part of the grand Russian Federation. Russia insists Ukraine leave this Russian territory immediately and go drown in the sea like the Nazi pigs that they are.
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Oct 5, 2023 07:31
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Snowman_McK posted:War on the Rocks had a guest recently who talked about this, pointing out just how many things has to consider on how many timeframes. It was both very interesting and also he sounded exactly like 90s era Joe Pesci. It was uncanny. Stephen Kotkin on "winning the peace?" Did you also listen to the paywalled parts 2 and 3 or just the first part, like I did?
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Oct 5, 2023 07:41
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Xiahou Dun posted:Ukraine peacefully assumes control of Northern Ireland. So long as we get AK47s and Semtex we'll get on grand.... we got 800 years of grudges to catch up on. 
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Oct 5, 2023 08:34
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Kotkin has a lot of relatively recent talks on Youtube covering this exact and other Ukraine related subjects.
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Oct 5, 2023 08:42
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Xiahou Dun posted:Ukraine peacefully assumes control of Northern Ireland. No McClancy chat!
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Oct 5, 2023 11:15
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Ukraine to be given the old Portuguese trading post at Nagasaki
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Oct 5, 2023 11:43
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:Stephen Kotkin on "winning the peace?" Did you also listen to the paywalled parts 2 and 3 or just the first part, like I did? 2and 4are worth the price of admission imo. War on the Rocks subscriptions are going from USD $75/year to USD $150/year soon if any goons are interested. A bit pricey, but the podcasts are quite good if that's your thing.
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Oct 5, 2023 12:29
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Exclusive: US will transfer weapons seized from Iran to Ukraine Ukraine would like to thank its Iranian allies for their contribution towards expelling the invaders
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Oct 5, 2023 12:34
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Scratch Monkey posted:Exclusive: US will transfer weapons seized from Iran to Ukraine Absolute  Meanwhile, from the other side of the world: Zeit Liveblog: Russia decides just watching their ships get blown up has become too boring, moves ships to another targeting range. Russia has finally realized that Sevastopol is maybe a bit too close to Ukrainian missiles and drones to do much good. Satellite pictures show 10 warships have been moved from Sevastopol to Noworossijsk. But uh oh! Noworossijsk is also still in drone range from Ukraine, so Russia has now signed a new treaty with the Abchasian "government", to create a new fleet base in Georgia. The speculation is that this new base will become the replacement for Noworossijsk and Sevastopol in the future, if the war is still going then. In other news from the same Liveblog: -German federal minister of economics Cem Özdemir is in Ukrainie for talks about helping Ukrainian grain exports. -Zelensky has arrived in Granada for talks with the European states.
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Oct 5, 2023 13:15
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Ukraine enforces it's Distant Blockade... from Kyiv. 
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Oct 5, 2023 13:22
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*starts war to guarantee safety and security of naval base at Sevastopol* *after 18 months of fighting abandons naval base at Sevastopol due to it being unsafe and insecure*
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Oct 5, 2023 13:25
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Tigey posted:*starts war to guarantee safety and security of naval base at Sevastopol* Very strong vibes of that apocryphal tale from Vietnam: "Why is this supply base here?" "To supply the artillery base." "Why is the artillery base there?" "To provide indirect fire support for the supply base."
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Oct 5, 2023 15:03
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Another artillery barrage in Kharkiv kills scores of civilians. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/05/europe/kupiansk-ukraine-attack-zelensky-intl/index.html quote:Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said at least 48 people were killed in a Russian artillery strike that hit a shop near the eastern city of Kupiansk on Thursday.
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Oct 5, 2023 15:34
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/05/russian-attack-village-cafe-kills-people-ukraine-hroza-kharkiv 15% of a small village population of Hroza was wiped out when a missile struck a funeral reception. In such close-knit communities, often at least one person from each household attends gatherings like that, so literally every family is affected. Might be the most devastating single strike since the Mariupol drama theatre.
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Oct 5, 2023 15:34
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Warning that there's a lot of unblurred imagery on Twitter right now of these attacks on civilians. Goons who suffer from such imagery but follow the war on Twitter should probably take a day or two off from the platform.
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Oct 5, 2023 15:56
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DarklyDreaming posted:They weren't always (And thus they protested China's human rights abuses) but then their biggest donor got something (Investigations ongoing) that convinced him to ease off on China https://x.com/codepink/status/1709761844443758630?s=20
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Oct 5, 2023 16:45
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The source is Bild (a tabloid), but they do have good contacts in the government.Bild - Machine translated posted:The German government is not planning to deliver the Taurus cruise missiles so urgently requested by the Ukrainian army in the foreseeable future. This was confirmed to BILD from German and Ukrainian government circles. Note: CDU is in the opposition, Greens and FDP are in a coalition government with the SPD. drat the "centrists for centrism's sake" people. DTurtle fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 16:56
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DTurtle posted:The source is Bild (a tabloid), but they do have good contacts in the government. While I personally think Scholz is dumb as poo poo about this, he's at least standing by his words about helping Ukraine defend their airspace: Scholz promises another PATRIOT-system, in addition to the first German one. The new system is supposed to help Ukraine defend against the expected Russian Winter-attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure. According to the article, Germany, the Netherlands and the US already send PATRIOT-systems back in April (one each) and Germany then delivered two more launchers for their own system in August. So with this additional battery, Ukraine should have four full Patriots and two full Iris-T systems for defense in Winter.
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Oct 5, 2023 17:41
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