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IcePhoenix posted:No baseball tomorrow, either That's perverse
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Oct 5, 2023 19:29
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I would like for the Rangers to beat the Orioles and the Twins to beat the Astros. No strong preference in the NL.
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Oct 5, 2023 19:50
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AndrewP posted:best-of-three's are stupid
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Oct 5, 2023 19:59
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3-5-7-7 with the best teams getting a bye seems fair to me. I like it now
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Oct 5, 2023 20:01
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Shorten the season a little so everyone isn’t utterly gassed at the end and bump wild card round to best of five.
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Oct 5, 2023 20:11
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The bigger issue is the seeding. Teams should earn postseason entry the same way they do now. But first round seeding should be 100% by record. Top two records get the byes. The rest go to WC. This way, the best team in a WC round is the third best record in the league. And you guarantee that the top two records are on opposite sides of the bracket for a potential LCS matchup. And if you make the Wildcard round just one game under this setup, it provides extra incentive for teams to be as good as possible, not just settle for an 85-win “good enough” wildcard slot. Because even if there’s a superteam in your division that makes winning the division seem impossible, you still can earn that valuable bye if you beat out the rest of your league. This incentive is of course the reason the league will never do this. The current system doesn’t reward regular season excellence enough, but that is what owners like about it. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 20:12
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0 chance anything like that happens without eliminating/shrinking divisions. HOWEVER. 2 divisions when the league expands. Division winners get byes, 4 wildcards as there is now
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Oct 5, 2023 20:17
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Dinosaurs! posted:Shorten the season a little so everyone isn’t utterly gassed at the end and bump wild card round to best of five. Or add another off day or two between the regular season and postseason. The way the seeding works is bizarre with the huge field and I definitely think it should be by league and not division, but this is all by design so you can spend $5 on your 85-win team and get that sweet postseason revenue. If they’re going to expand again and they really want divisions, they should collapse them into western and eastern conferences, I think.
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Oct 5, 2023 20:46
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:0 chance anything like that happens without eliminating/shrinking divisions. The league won’t go to fewer divisions for the same reason they have divisions in the first place: the optics of a team in “5th place” are better than one in “8th place” bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 20:47
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Seed by record, 1 game WC, 7 game DS would be perfect imo. Also bring back game 163s, none of this tiebreaker bullshit
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Oct 5, 2023 21:17
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Eppler just resigned as Mets GM
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Oct 5, 2023 21:31
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zoux posted:Eppler just resigned as Mets GM People are way too surprised by this. Of course he's not going to essentially take a demotion.
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Oct 5, 2023 21:34
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bawfuls posted:What do division changes have to do with it? They already moved to a more balanced schedule. And you still guarantee a postseason spot (just not a bye) with a division win, as it is now. What’s different is that to get a bye you need to be better than a bunch of teams not just one other division winner. Because the optics of a division winner being eliminated in a single game are even worse that that.
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Oct 5, 2023 21:34
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Things going great in Queens.
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Oct 5, 2023 21:42
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Traxis posted:Seed by record, 1 game WC, 7 game DS would be perfect imo.
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Oct 5, 2023 21:56
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Because the optics of a division winner being eliminated in a single game are even worse that that.
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Oct 5, 2023 21:57
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The central divisions are not real divisions
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Oct 5, 2023 21:58
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bawfuls posted:are they? A division winner just got eliminated in 2 games and it seems fine IMO they both suck but yes a Best of 3 is way better than a single game.
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Oct 5, 2023 22:14
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:IMO they both suck but yes a Best of 3 is way better than a single game. The purpose is to tilt the postseason more heavily in favor of the top regular season teams and provide heavy incentive to get that bye Ideally we’d only have 4 postseason teams per league in the first place but if we’re stuck with an expanded field then it needs to reflect the nature of the sport. Although all that said, the step from 1 to 3 games is not that significant anyway. A team that’s 57/43 to win a single game is only like 60/40 to win 2 of 3. The bigger benefit of going back to 1 imo is the schedule compression and pitching rotation penalty it imposes on the WC winners. TL;DR: I do not feel sorry for teams that win <95 games and get bounced in a 1-game WC. Win more games and you earn the right to an actual series. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 22:20
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bawfuls posted:Part of the appeal of a single game in my proposed format is in fact that it sucks for the teams participating in it First, I said optics, not math. They are very different things (regardless of the sample size you need to get to for the math to actually work out). Second, we don't even know who the top regular season teams are because of the unbalanced schedule. How many games would the Phillies or Rays have won in either Central division this season?
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Oct 5, 2023 22:38
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I kinda hate the three game series. A one-off at least has manufactured urgency, and a best of 5 switches up the venues. Even if a team goes down 2-0, there's at least some faint hope going back home and the higher seed has to work a little bit. I think a good compromise would be to keep the current playoff structure, but give the 3-seed a "ghost win." It gives the lowest ranking division winner a modest advantage and potential for more rest, and makes the last team in work extra hard to advance. The 4/5 match up can be a straight best of 3 as is. I know the cheap rear end owners would likely wince at giving up the extra guaranteed home game, but maybe they could be sold on the idea of having a better chance at 3 home games, or just do some revenue sharing shenanigans, who cares? I'd also like to see them do NFL-style re-seeding, where the #1 gets the lowest seed remaining. Blind Pineapple fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 22:42
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Based on his time in Houston, we all know Correa has excellent hearing
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Oct 5, 2023 22:50
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The schedule is a lot more balanced now than it was before. I think it is balanced enough at this point to not be a big issue. But if your contention is that it’s still very unbalanced, then when the top two records come from the same division and are both significantly higher than the winner of the consensus-worst division, isn’t that an even stronger argument for at-large seeding? I know the Rays looked limp this week but do we really believe that the 99-win Rays were a weaker team this year than the 87-win Twins? I guess the better question is, are the 99-win Rays better than the 90-win Astros? To which I would answer, yes 162 games showed as much. The unbalanced schedule did not give the Rays a 9-win advantage over the Astros. The Rays had the top run differential and second best record in the AL, playing in the consensus-best AL division. So I don’t really buy that the schedule is too imbalanced to seed a 99-win WC team higher than a 90-win division winner. Blind Pineapple posted:I'd also like to see them do NFL-style re-seeding, where the #1 gets the lowest seed remaining. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Oct 5, 2023 |
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Oct 5, 2023 22:50
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It literally took me a full minute just now to remember who the AL Central winner was
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Oct 5, 2023 23:04
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Recent postseason seedings under the Superior Bawfuls System: 2023AL (1)BAL-101 (2)TB-99 ————- (6)MIN-87 @ (3)HOU-90 (5)TOR-89 @ (4)TEX-90 2023NL-unchanged 2022AL-unchanged 2022NL (1)LA-111 (2)ATL-101 ———— (6)PHI-87 @ (3)NYM-101 (5)SD-89 @ (4)STL-93 (Only the WC matchup changes here) 2021AL-unchanged 2021NL (1)SF-107 (2)LA-106 ————- (6)CIN-83 @ (3)MIL-95 (5)ATL-88 @ (4)STL-90 2021 still only had 2 wildcards but I included it for obvious reasons. Seeding at-large only changes things significantly when there is a big reason to, ie two very strong records come out of the same division. We should want the top two records in a league to have the potential to match up in the LCS, regardless of what divisions they’re in.
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Oct 5, 2023 23:28
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It's bullshit that there's no playoff baseball tonight or tomorrow night
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It's extraordinarily relaxing.
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Gorman Thomas posted:It's bullshit that there's no playoff baseball tonight or tomorrow night There's always Thursday Night Football.
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Oct 6, 2023 01:07
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Football? You mean that sport for filthy casuals? The one where everyone takes a full week off between games? Just lol if you can’t watch 10x that many games in a single season.
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Oct 6, 2023 01:12
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Anderson Koopa posted:There's always Thursday Night Football. Is it really football if the Bears are playing?
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Oct 6, 2023 01:14
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Is it really football if the Bears are playing? Maybe they'll win won for the Dicker Wow, that doesn't work at all. But neither does Butkuser
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So technically this belongs in the Offseason thread mostly but it relates to a team still in the playoffs and is also very funny, so I'll post it here https://puckettspond.com/posts/twins-cheating-al-wild-card-blue-jays-manager John Gibbons is mad.
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live with fruit posted:People are way too surprised by this. Of course he's not going to essentially take a demotion. https://twitter.com/martinonyc/status/1710086347954794576
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Oct 6, 2023 01:40
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congrats to john gibbons on not understanding what cheating is
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Oct 6, 2023 01:41
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Cheating is when the other team wins. Especially if they aren't one of the big coastal market teams.
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Oct 6, 2023 01:57
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Moooooom! My brother is cheating at the video game!
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Oct 6, 2023 02:11
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I didn't know that fielders could control Pitchcom, I assumed they could only listen. That doesn't seem correct. Edit: Watched Gray describe it, sounds like it was called via Pitchcom by the catcher but the idea was Correa's Popete fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Oct 6, 2023 |
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Correa signaled to the dugout who relayed it to the catcher who signaled Gray via pitchcom
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