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Schwza
Apr 28, 2008

Basic Poster posted:

So this parts bass process has lead me down what I am sure is an extremely dumb and u healthy path.

A few months ago I was saving up to get a mike lull built. At the price point though I could get a cnc router.

How dumb of an idea money wise is it to get into building my own? Its hard to get a feel for whats out there. I am aware of some of the custom builders out there (lull, brubaker, mdt, sandberg, etc).

But on some closer inspection, it seems there are loads of smaller builders that no one knows of. Are boutique basses a fools errand in terms of not having it eat you financially? I do have some ideas that aren’t atrocious as differentiators and am set up to wind my own pickups. Have an EE degree and a history of custom wood work (custom stair builder through most of college).

Is the boutique market a thing that can at least pay for itself as a hobby deal? Or do you make basses for the five people you know and then put up reverb ads that no one responds to?

I started building guitars in 2018. Most of the money I've spent has been on tools and materials and scratch builds cost me in the mid $100-200 range depending on electronics. I've sold a few so far but I am not good at marketing so I mainly sell to people I know. It's the perfect hobby for a woodworking musician who is never satisfied with one guitar.

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Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

Schwza posted:

I started building guitars in 2018. Most of the money I've spent has been on tools and materials and scratch builds cost me in the mid $100-200 range depending on electronics. I've sold a few so far but I am not good at marketing so I mainly sell to people I know. It's the perfect hobby for a woodworking musician who is never satisfied with one guitar.



These are tight.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



I posted in here recently about getting a beat to poo poo Ampeg SVT 8x10 for a steal.

I wrapped up refinishing it.
Here's what it looked like when I got it:




I scraped all the tolex off and sanded the whole thing down.
There were a couple of nasty chunks taken out of the corners, so I used bondo to fill those in.

Then I painted it with Duratex


Put on new corner guards, reinstalled all the old hardware.
I did consider replacing the logo on the top left corner, but I kind of like that it's beat to poo poo, it's like the one scar it got to keep.

Now I have to feed it. I bought a 6 slot case off of my drummer, and picked up a demo SVT-7 pro from Sweetwater.




I'm going to end up getting a rack tuner, drawer, sansamp, and a power strip to fill the rest of the slots.

I put it up to 50% volume last night and scared the poo poo out of my dogs. This thing is loud as gently caress, and it's going to be awesome. Now I just need a place big enough to play so it's worth bringing it out. (I have a rumble 350 for bar gigs)

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 6, 2023

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
gently caress yeah, those beat up badges earned their stripes. Keeping them as is was the right call.

Looks good!

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

That's so impressive

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Looks awesome! I wish I had any reason at all to have something like that, but I'll just live vicariously through you.

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

Yeah, as a poor fucker who does everything in a DAW I really enjoy the gear posts here.

Risky Bisquick
Jan 18, 2008

PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.



Buglord
Looks great, probably sounds feels incredible when you play. 8x10 moves a serious amount of air, guitarists and vocalists are going to tell you to turn down because you have easily won the volume war :golfclap:

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014
Fun Shoe

Risky Bisquick posted:

Looks great, probably sounds feels incredible when you play. 8x10 moves a serious amount of air, guitarists and vocalists are going to tell you to turn down because you have easily won the volume war :golfclap:

Guitarists and vocalists will tell them to turn down because they are a bass player, and that is the way of things.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
Hello bassists

I'm starting to play upright bass in a band doing folk, country, bluegrass type stuff. It's an absolute blast and I'd like to get more into it, but: I don't have an upright of my own (borrowing my friend's atm), and also don't have a vehicle that can transport one.

I started looking into slim body string basses, there are some decent options (the Eminence one looks great, but I guess they're hard to come by: https://gollihurmusic.com/new-basses/electric-upright-basses/eminence-electric-upright-bass/)

Does anybody play a portable, electric upright? Any recommendations? I'd like some amount of the acoustic upright sound, but it doesn't need to be perfect.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
As a broad generalization, electric upright basses (EUBs) are somewhere between a vertical fretless electric and a hunk of dog poo poo at entry price points. poo poo ergonomics, doesn't sound whatsoever like an upright bass, scale length and neck profile are all sorts of hosed up.

That can improve dramatically as you get closer to the price point of an okay entry level fullsize upright (~$2k usd new as a suuuper rough guide). The one you linked appears to be fully in that range (and Gollihur generally does provide good value with their products, so it's not just a price markup). At these price points, it's massively more likely to be built as a serious attempt at an upright replacement, instead of just a janky vertical fretless electric.

Another good sign with the Gollihur - it's hollow. The resonant cavity helps massively in getting that woody growly tone. I have a Azola Bugbass, which is a drat good lower priced EUB, but it's a completely solid body, so it can only get so close (I'm honestly surprised it sounds as uprighty as it does, but it sounded very nice through headphones when I demoed it).

TL;DR there are a lot of poo poo cheap options for EUB, but your example seems to check all the right boxes for a good compact upright replacement.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

The Science Goy posted:

As a broad generalization, electric upright basses (EUBs) are somewhere between a vertical fretless electric and a hunk of dog poo poo at entry price points. poo poo ergonomics, doesn't sound whatsoever like an upright bass, scale length and neck profile are all sorts of hosed up.

That can improve dramatically as you get closer to the price point of an okay entry level fullsize upright (~$2k usd new as a suuuper rough guide). The one you linked appears to be fully in that range (and Gollihur generally does provide good value with their products, so it's not just a price markup). At these price points, it's massively more likely to be built as a serious attempt at an upright replacement, instead of just a janky vertical fretless electric.

Another good sign with the Gollihur - it's hollow. The resonant cavity helps massively in getting that woody growly tone. I have a Azola Bugbass, which is a drat good lower priced EUB, but it's a completely solid body, so it can only get so close (I'm honestly surprised it sounds as uprighty as it does, but it sounded very nice through headphones when I demoed it).

TL;DR there are a lot of poo poo cheap options for EUB, but your example seems to check all the right boxes for a good compact upright replacement.

Appreciate the advice! Will be a while before I actually decide to get one, if I do, so I'll consider my options. I also have an electric bass and might just play that when I don't have access to the upright

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


a.p. dent posted:

Hello bassists

I'm starting to play upright bass in a band doing folk, country, bluegrass type stuff. It's an absolute blast and I'd like to get more into it, but: I don't have an upright of my own (borrowing my friend's atm), and also don't have a vehicle that can transport one.

I started looking into slim body string basses, there are some decent options (the Eminence one looks great, but I guess they're hard to come by: https://gollihurmusic.com/new-basses/electric-upright-basses/eminence-electric-upright-bass/)

Does anybody play a portable, electric upright? Any recommendations? I'd like some amount of the acoustic upright sound, but it doesn't need to be perfect.

I challenge your assertion that a double bass doesn't fit in your car. What do you drive? I used to drive my bass with a bulky amp and a horn player in a Honda Civic all the time. You slide the passenger front seat all the way forward and recline it all the way back. Like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=samNHsF2NhI

I went scroll first but both seem ok. It's even easier now in my tiny Yaris hatchback.

Also, a Shen plywood bass ($2k) or an good old Kay ($2k-3k) and will sound way way way better. I had a NS Designs NXT and I never liked the sound (sounded like a fretless electric) or feel of it (no reference points like neck heel, shoulders). The Yamaha SLBs look really nice but again, you'll get a better tone dollar for dollar from a real double bass.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna



oh hell no :stare:

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


I mean the neck and scroll are not resting on anything but it looks scary because it's close and a steep angle. But again when I did it the bass went in with the scroll towards the back. I should have just posted this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nujk4rulwc8

Gorgar
Dec 2, 2012

You could try a hollow or semi-hollow electric. I don’t play upright, but I can get a pretty mellow vintage tone out of my EB-2. It’s what I go to for those sorts of genres.

Not an upright, but way more portable.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

I challenge your assertion that a double bass doesn't fit in your car. What do you drive? I used to drive my bass with a bulky amp and a horn player in a Honda Civic all the time. You slide the passenger front seat all the way forward and recline it all the way back. Like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=samNHsF2NhI

I went scroll first but both seem ok. It's even easier now in my tiny Yaris hatchback.

Also, a Shen plywood bass ($2k) or an good old Kay ($2k-3k) and will sound way way way better. I had a NS Designs NXT and I never liked the sound (sounded like a fretless electric) or feel of it (no reference points like neck heel, shoulders). The Yamaha SLBs look really nice but again, you'll get a better tone dollar for dollar from a real double bass.

Fair enough! It doesn’t look so bad now that I see it. My friend had described this process to me and it sounded like a nightmare. (I have a Civic)

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
Comedy option: Kala U-Bass

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

Armacham posted:

Comedy option: Kala U-Bass

Extra comedy option: Ashbory.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?
My upright fit just fine in my Mazda3 :shrug: I could even see out the passenger mirror if I had the seat all the way back

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Reminds me of this from a bass book I've had for ages. I'm not sure there's anywhere on planes with that much legroom anymore! Also, notice that this is page 10, some of the earliest advice in the book.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
I finally got my Nordstrand pickup. :smugbert:


Such a weird mix of parts.

Graphtech tuners, Darkglass tone capsule, 89 Korean neck, Nordstrand Dingwall pickup, and a black Hipshot bridge.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Get a Takamane TB10. It's essentially an acoustic bass with an upright neck and bridge. You can play it like a guitar or it has a leg for upright.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
I guess I'll go for the rear end in a top hat option, this problem was why electric basses were invented in the first place. Though it was more for getting around the problem of having to fit the rest of the band and gear into the same car, rather than just you and da bass.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
First time playing upright in front of people last night, offered my services to anyone who wanted it at the open mic and had a blast. This is the best instrument

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
I choose to imagine that you did the rockabilly thing where you balance on the bass while playing it for every song, however inappropriate.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
Having a frustrating time trying to change the strings on this P-bass:



Basically the ends of the new strings I got (Stagg) are way too small for these holes and just keep slipping through. Any way to fix this or do I just need to get a different set? I was able to get the low E and high G to stay on via tension but it makes me nervous

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

That's wild, I've never run into that particular issue before. Root through the washer bins at a hardware store, maybe?

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say if you bought a different brand you won't have this problem. Or if you do, at least it's consistent?

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
A hail Mary but if you fed the open end of the string through the loop on the other end and pulled it into as tight of a knot as you can would that be big enough to hold it in place? Might not have the greatest tuning stability though.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Some small washers would probably be the best/cleanest way to use those strings. You could also trim down one of the old strings and run it through the holes on the string ends, just be careful not to snag yourself on the sharp edges.

edit: the latter will make tuning a chore as changing the tension on one string will impact all the others.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

Modal Auxiliary posted:

That's wild, I've never run into that particular issue before. Root through the washer bins at a hardware store, maybe?

DrChu posted:

Some small washers would probably be the best/cleanest way to use those strings.

Smart! Dunno why I didn't think of that, worked like a charm. You saved me $20 and a trip to Guitar Center, cheers

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Sockington posted:

I finally got my Nordstrand pickup. :smugbert:


Such a weird mix of parts.

Graphtech tuners, Darkglass tone capsule, 89 Korean neck, Nordstrand Dingwall pickup, and a black Hipshot bridge.

I’ve had a few days to play around with this and it’s probably become my #2 bass with everything coming together finally. The body is light and I wear Jaguar basses up high, so it’s pretty comfy for any kind of loving around. My Geddy is still #1 all around.

The Mexican P-Bass slots in #3. It’s way more playable than the Matt Freeman signature that I told myself would be “the P-Bass”.

The Greco sounds fantastic but the neck is a touch thicker than my preference and classic Rickenbacker ergonomics.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

That a major streaming service would put this on is hilarious. And the title is great.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/geddy-lee-krist-novoselic-rob-trujillo-docuseries-1234861293/

quote:

Geddy Lee is gearing up not just for the launch of his memoir My Effin’ Life and nationwide book tour but also for the new Paramount Plus docuseries Geddy Lee Asks: Are Bass Players Human Too? The four-part series will feature in-depth conversations between Lee and Nirvana’s Krist Novoselic, Metallica’s Rob Trujillo, Primus’ Les Claypool, and Hole/Smashing Pumpkins bassist Melissa Auf der Maur. It premiers on December 5.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Today in poor decision land, went to Sam Ash to pick up a new interface as my 1st gen 2i2 finally kicked it, walked out with a new bass because it matched the missus' nail polish :unsmith: SR500E-BAB, my main bass is it's cooler older cousin, an SR1600B with tapes, so this one will keep the roundwounds and probably stay in drop tuning. Interested to hear the differences between the buckers in this and the singles in the 1600 too!

Frozen Pizza Party fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Oct 28, 2023

trashy owl
Aug 23, 2017

New SoundGear buddy, that looks really nice.

I just got an SR-5005 the other week and it has changed the equation for me after only having a MiM Mustang PJ for the past 6 months. I probably should have gone full scale to start but I think the short scale was good to build hand strength while learning.

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

Great minds think alike, I ended up pulling the trigger on the EHB1005F and it's awesome. Fit and finish are insane for the price point, it plays like a dream, and it's less than half the weight of the Sire it's replacing. Still getting used to the scale difference, but I was able to play for almost 45 minutes straight yesterday, which is the longest session I've had since my CTD diagnosis. Ergonomics are REAL, y'all.

Also had the tech do a quick setup on my old SR375 5-string and I still can't believe how great it plays for a $175 Craigslist find.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

trashy owl posted:

New SoundGear buddy, that looks really nice.

I just got an SR-5005 the other week and it has changed the equation for me after only having a MiM Mustang PJ for the past 6 months. I probably should have gone full scale to start but I think the short scale was good to build hand strength while learning.

Nice, grats on the new bass! How are you liking it so far?

Modal Auxiliary posted:

Great minds think alike, I ended up pulling the trigger on the EHB1005F and it's awesome. Fit and finish are insane for the price point, it plays like a dream, and it's less than half the weight of the Sire it's replacing. Still getting used to the scale difference, but I was able to play for almost 45 minutes straight yesterday, which is the longest session I've had since my CTD diagnosis. Ergonomics are REAL, y'all.

Also had the tech do a quick setup on my old SR375 5-string and I still can't believe how great it plays for a $175 Craigslist find.

:hf: cheapo SR buddy! Had a 90s SR300 that I got from facebook for $40, after some new strings and a setup it plays great. I'm absolutely enamored with the SR line's design, so thin, light and amazingly playable. If you haven't tried it yet, play classical style. It took me a few weeks to get used to it, but not having to extend the fretting arm 1/4mile out on the 34" scale is much more comfortable (for me at least) and it forces me to sit upright, which is another plus. Grats to you as well on your new comfy bass!

Frozen Pizza Party fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Oct 28, 2023

trashy owl
Aug 23, 2017

Frozen Pizza Party posted:

Nice, grats on the new bass! How are you liking it so far?

It's so comfy to play and it sounds fantastic with or without the active EQ. No issues going to 5 strings either really, just using the B as thumb perch instead of say a pickup. Really glad I splurged a little.

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ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Interesting, I've not gone Ibanez but I've plonked some cash down on a Sire M5 fretless 5 string, I went for the M5 as I don't actually have a humbucker active bass and this can also cure my GAS for something Stingrayish (it does a fair approximation). After experiencing the comfort of a Sire bass with my V5 4 fretless it was a no brainer, they make great necks. The only concern with this bass is the battery compartment but I have a plan for that, gotoh make a double battery compartment I might be able to mod with.

ewe2 fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 29, 2023

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