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| A New Challenger |
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Build their own nuclear submarine and sink a British cruiser, duh. Then nothing will stand between them and Las Malvinas!
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Oct 7, 2023 03:32
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Wasn't it France he approached?
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Oct 7, 2023 03:35
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Milo and POTUS posted:What exactly was argentina supposed to do with that information? Just sell it further along? That’s presumably why they did the diplomatic equivalent of calling up another company’s IT department and asking why the gently caress they were sending phishing tests.
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Oct 7, 2023 04:08
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Airgoons is currently running the campaign and in that alt-timeline I assume that plan worked and Argentina has a garage-band 688.
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Oct 7, 2023 04:11
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Wasn't it France he approached? Ah poo poo it was Brazil. The same level of confusion but I guess I really wanted to make Falkland Island jokes.
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Oct 7, 2023 04:13
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ASAPI posted:Holy crap. As an added bonus he’s one of the GOP’s biggest fundraisers and they’re concerned losing him will be a big blow, lol.
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Oct 7, 2023 04:20
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IDF apparently let multiple groups of armed Hamas marauders across the border and they're causing havoc. Hard to imagine how this happened. https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1710529957024104617?s=20
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Oct 7, 2023 06:56
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An actively burning tank wreck is pretty low on the list of things I would want to stand on or near for a number of reasons.
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Oct 7, 2023 07:27
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Defenestrategy posted:Yea, sounds like the white house isn't a great environment for the dog either. The secret service are either dicks to the dog on purpose, don't know how to handle them, or Commander isn't well socialized to having a bunch of strange dudes hanging around him every day. Either way I wish Commander good luck in their future endeavors. It's also quite possible that the high-strung German Shepherd Dog doesn't have an outlet for all its instincts and energy, but knows drat well which secret service agents smell like they hate the person he is bonded to and wants to protect.
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Oct 7, 2023 08:06
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There is some really awful images coming out of the raid on Israel so watch out clicking on links. https://x.com/CalibreObscura/status/1710536047971520904?s=20
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Oct 7, 2023 08:22
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Tiny posted:It's also quite possible that the high-strung German Shepherd Dog doesn't have an outlet for all its instincts and energy, but knows drat well which secret service agents smell like they hate the person he is bonded to and wants to protect. A lot of the posturing and demeanor you'd imagine from SS types probably looks extremely aggressive to a dog and they're gonna address it the way they see fit I'd imagine
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Oct 7, 2023 09:30
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If Biden were like any normal person, I’d say “keep the dogs and fire the bodyguards”. The Secret Service is probably better equipped than two dogs though. Sadly, not as loyal.
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Oct 7, 2023 09:42
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Netanyahu is saying "we are at war", so.... things gonna get bad.
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Oct 7, 2023 11:14
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Time for a rewatch of Fauda. Also, practically begging the IDF of all organisations to take the gloves off against your people while the rest of the world has its eyes on Ukraibei is pretty dumb.
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Oct 7, 2023 11:19
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BBC is reporting over 500 Israelis wounded so far and 20+ dead. I think 'gloves off' is a given and the Palestinian controlled areas are going to have all their infrastructure smashed.
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Oct 7, 2023 11:37
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I just naturally assume Israel probably had advanced warning and allowed it to happen to justify the response.
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Oct 7, 2023 11:38
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Unconfirmed reports of Hamas taking hostages.
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Oct 7, 2023 12:51
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IDF has confirmed Hamas captured a unit commander of their deep cover operations, the former commander of the Gaza Division. E- wasn't a great source, so consider it unreliable. GOP is gonna love this bulletsponge13 fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Oct 7, 2023 |
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Oct 7, 2023 13:14
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Seems like a gigantic failure on the part of Israeli intelligence. Appear to have large number of killed, wounded and kidnapped/taken prisoner. Hamas seems to be targeting civilians too, the response is probably going to be brutal. I just hope civilian casualties won’t be high but I have my doubts. B-Mac fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Oct 7, 2023 |
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Oct 7, 2023 14:00
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Thelonious posted:I just naturally assume Israel probably had advanced warning and allowed it to happen to justify the response. From the limited information on my feed, this more feels like fuckup. Israel was probably close to normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia, then Hamas slung 3k-5k rockets and breached the border enough to actually take over Israeli towns. Too severe/consequential a failure to call it just turning a blind eye: https://twitter.com/juliettekayyem/status/1710634889790263301?t=amiAArrBndIHWmC_3tMSvg&s=19 https://twitter.com/juliettekayyem/status/1710639885164347435?t=alx8MvuTCBtUB2CuvUYBUA&s=19
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Oct 7, 2023 14:01
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How the gently caress is this happening. From the intelligence failures to even the lack of any contigency planning working out well by the Israelis. How. B-Mac posted:Seems like a gigantic failure in the part of Israeli intelligence. Appear to have large number of killed, wounded and kidnapped/taken prisoner. This is going to be brutal for civilians on both sides. Neither party is holding back at all.
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Oct 7, 2023 14:09
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I'm assuming Israeli Intel let this happen for the purposes of a final victory, to try and take everything and kill every Palestinian they can. Not a Flase Flag, but something they let happen. Maybe they under estimated it, but this seems entirely too big to have stayed completely off their radar.
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Oct 7, 2023 14:20
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I have to agree, this was allowed to happen in order to provide cause.
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Oct 7, 2023 14:24
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Israel has been sufficiently distracted by internal conflict lately that their intelligence missing this doesn't surprise me that much.
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Oct 7, 2023 14:24
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I could definitely see Israel potentially underestimating Hamas as a threat, I certainly wouldn't have believed they could bust through the security border and seize multiple settlements before today.
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Oct 7, 2023 14:52
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I mean, what do you expect to happen when you corral a people, steal their land, and regularly bombard them from the air and treat them like oppressed second class citizens?
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Oct 7, 2023 14:54
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Is it possible that Netanyahu has been dismissing officers due to insufficient loyalty? A purge could certainly explain a precipitous drop in competence.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:26
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bibi pals around with neo nazis and definitely would resort to unscrupulous means, also the israeli government is more ultra-nationalist now than ever. their decision to not provide materiel support to ukraine makes a lot more sense if theyve been working on some plans of their own for the last few years. i would not be surprised if hamas had no part in this at all.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:31
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Reports are 198 dead in Gaza in retaliatory strikes so far
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Oct 7, 2023 15:32
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Fivemarks posted:I mean, what do you expect to happen when you corral a people, steal their land, and regularly bombard them from the air and treat them like oppressed second class citizens? I stay out of this kind of discussion because it's a clusterfuck, but I just want to show the depths of the clusterfuck here: https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1710655794310512976?t=OWSz4xaQev0BWS-mcY8U6Q&s=19
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Oct 7, 2023 15:32
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Man. Jared Kushner's peace deal really didn't pan out.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:34
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bulletsponge13 posted:I'm assuming Israeli Intel let this happen for the purposes of a final victory, to try and take everything and kill every Palestinian they can. I highly doubt Israeli intelligence had no idea this was coming, because they have fingers in literally all of the pies (even if they didn't have a mole directly in Hamas, they should have been able to gather enough info to determine something was coming). The question is did they sit on it because this provides a casus belli to finally indiscriminately wipe out Palestinians in West Bank and Gaza? Or, did they sit on it because they didn't think that an attack from Hamas would be as large as it was? Bibi's ultranationalist group is going to push to completely eliminate Palestine after this I think, never let a good crisis go to waste. Me and you are on the same page absolutely bulletsponge, this provides a convenient excuse to go completely scorched earth and forcedly take the remainder of Palestine away from the Palestinians and finally wipe them out like they've been trying to since Israel was established. orange juche fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Oct 7, 2023 |
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Oct 7, 2023 15:43
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Pine Cone Jones posted:I have to agree, this was allowed to happen in order to provide cause. bulletsponge13 posted:I'm assuming Israeli Intel let this happen for the purposes of a final victory, to try and take everything and kill every Palestinian they can. Yeah this is where I'm at. I'm not saying they turned a total blind eye to it, likely underestimated whatever the gently caress it was gonna be, but I highly doubt no one in their entire MI apparatus had zero clue something was brewing. The "NO, THERE IS NO WAY THEY HAD PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF ANYTHING HAPPENING!" crowd on CNN has just as much evidence as I do that the Israelis' heard rumblings something was about to hit. EDIT: orange juche posted:I highly doubt Israeli intelligence had no idea this was coming, because they have fingers in literally all of the pies (even if they didn't have a mole directly in Hamas, they should have been able to gather enough info to determine something was coming). The question is did they sit on it because this provides a casus belli to finally indiscriminately wipe out Palestinians in West Bank and Gaza? Or, did they sit on it because they didn't think that an attack from Hamas would be as large as it was? Yeah this.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:46
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i think mossad has so many moles inside hamas that, much like american neo nazis being mostly fbi, the majority of hamas is comprised of mossad agents
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Oct 7, 2023 15:52
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This kind of an intelligence failure doesn't happen really in the era of ubiquitous technical surveillance. Someone absolutely knew about it, finding out who decided that the juice was worth the squeeze of potentially thousands dead by the time this poo poo is over will probably never be known by anyone outside of the Israeli government.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:56
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Bibi has been in power almost uninterrupted for over 15 years at this point. He has presided over numerous ground incursions and massive military operations into Gaza. The biggest intelligence failure since the Yom Kippur War just occurred on his watch, and while he could previously count on other flare-ups with Gaza to take some domestic political heat off of him, his adversaries will rightly call for his head as soon as the last bullet is fired. And given the strength of the Israeli far right, his successor will make him look like a peacenik by comparison. Absolutely no good will come of this for anyone involved. Pray that this doesn’t become a repeat of the 2006 war and that Hezbollah doesn’t get drawn into the conflict somehow.
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Oct 7, 2023 15:58
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/juliettekayyem/status/1710639885164347435?t=alx8MvuTCBtUB2CuvUYBUA&s=19 So my read of this is that obviously they ignored intel... but more due to incompetency than some evil malice
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Oct 7, 2023 16:01
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Putin is in awe of how to carry out a false flag without actually doing so.CommieGIR posted:Man. Jared Kushner's peace deal really didn't pan out. How long until we get a statement reading "This war would NEVER have happened if not for the rigged election of 2020"?
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Oct 7, 2023 16:08
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pantslesswithwolves posted:Bibi has been in power almost uninterrupted for over 15 years at this point. He has presided over numerous ground incursions and massive military operations into Gaza. The biggest intelligence failure since the Yom Kippur War just occurred on his watch, and while he could previously count on other flare-ups with Gaza to take some domestic political heat off of him, his adversaries will rightly call for his head as soon as the last bullet is fired. And given the strength of the Israeli far right, his successor will make him look like a peacenik by comparison. Bibi will end his years of service being replaced by an even more ultranationalist candidate in response to this, and thus bibi and his party will have won the politics too.
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Oct 7, 2023 16:10
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Yeah Israel has taken the nosedive into Ultra-Nationalist, well on its way to being outright fascist.
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