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bull3964 posted:I really think it's odd that media outlets aren't making a bigger deal out of the fact that Google has managed to do Level 3 Biometrics with a simple front facing camera. Imagine if Apple were able to shrink the be super cool if an open source version of this came into existence for lineageOS 25 or whatever.
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Oct 6, 2023 16:29
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bull3964 posted:"Hey Google, plan my dinner for the week, I'm planning on getting takeout on Friday." This sounds like a cool concept that will never materialize at this level of cohesion/completeness in any of our lifetimes, tbh. Even if we reach a point in the next 5-10 years that you can provide this level of input and the phone does all of these steps, I am willing to bet the results will be far from seamless. Things like unexpected ingredient substitutions from the recipe stage or the ordering stage, to fuckups with pickup/delivery times, etc. Absolutely not something I'm personally interested in alpha/beta testing, and you know that's exactly how it will be implemented.
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Oct 6, 2023 16:34
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I caved and got the regular Pixel 8, $260 off plus free pixel bud pros sold me. I'll have to sleep some more on if I want to upgrade from the versa 2 to the pixel watch 2
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Oct 6, 2023 16:37
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bull3964 posted:Google has managed to do Level 3 Biometrics with a simple front facing camera. I may be missing something obvious but that stuff isn't regulated, is it? Isn't it just Google deciding whatever level of security they can achieve with a single cam is good enough? It's not independently verified or whatever, is what I'm trying to say.
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Assistant regularly fails to play what I tell it to on Spotify and almost every AI chat bot regularly gets math questions wrong, I have zero hope for assistant/bard lmao
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Incessant Excess posted:I may be missing something obvious but that stuff isn't regulated, is it? Isn't it just Google deciding whatever level of security they can achieve with a single cam is good enough? It's not independently verified or whatever, is what I'm trying to say. I take it won't work to unlock your phone in the dark, or with too little light?
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Oct 6, 2023 18:14
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GreenBuckanneer posted:I caved and got the regular Pixel 8, $260 off plus free pixel bud pros sold me. I also caved. got the 8 pro with the LTE watch. I will report back once my buyers remorse kicks in full steam
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I bought the Pixel 8 Pro too. My old Galaxy S10+ is finally out of support so it was time to upgrade. It was the Pixel 8 vs the Galaxy S23. Google has increased its functionality and Samsung has decreased theirs to the point where it was a toss up; neither have headphone jacks, the modern Galaxy's don't do MST anymore, neither has expandable storage, both have long support timelines, etc. What it came down to was that Google offered a free watch that could replace my ancient Fitbit Blaze. The only thing I have to do now is find some new wireless earbuds. I can't believe that Google's $200 earbuds only support AAC/SBC. That's just insane to me to spend that much and not have a higher quality audio codec. I really like all the cool software stuff that Google stuffs into its earbuds, but honestly, if I'm going to be using the earbuds, I'm probably going to be listening to music.
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hark posted:I also caved. got the 8 pro with the LTE watch. I will report back once my buyers remorse kicks in full steam US Mobile is considerably cheaper than Google Fi ($25 vs $65 is a no brainer) but US Mobile doesn't yet support LTE smart watches
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Incessant Excess posted:I may be missing something obvious but that stuff isn't regulated, is it? Isn't it just Google deciding whatever level of security they can achieve with a single cam is good enough? It's not independently verified or whatever, is what I'm trying to say. Regulated no. But there are specifications defined for what the levels mean and what you have to achieve to hit them and how to actually test them. https://source.android.com/docs/security/features/biometric/measure There are three categories for measure. Spoof Acceptance Rate, Imposter Acceptance Rate, and False Acceptance Rate. The first is whether or not the biometric accepts some recorded facsimile of the real thing (recording of voice, impression of fingerprint, picture of face). The second is the acceptance of a mimic. Someone trying to impersonate a voice, someone with very similar fingerprints, a doppelganger presenting their face. The third is the rate at which any random input might be accepted. So, the percentage rates of the various categories determines if it's a Type 3, 2, 1 biometric. The link goes into a lot of detail about the various testing that's done for each type. I guess beyond that you just have to trust that the various manufacturers are not lying, but that's the same for all biometrics really.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:US Mobile is considerably cheaper than Google Fi ($25 vs $65 is a no brainer) but US Mobile doesn't yet support LTE smart watches my main reason for being on fi is that you get 5 free data only sims. I have one for my watch, one for my iPad, and three left to use at my discretion. it's pretty great for the price.
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Oct 6, 2023 19:07
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I have a iPad air but it's not a SIM card one
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GreenBuckanneer posted:US Mobile is considerably cheaper than Google Fi ($25 vs $65 is a no brainer) but US Mobile doesn't yet support LTE smart watches
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butt dickus posted:i'm on fi with a 3-person unlimited plan and it's $80 for all 3 of us, that includes my lte watch I would need my coworker and my gf to move, again, from this phone plan to google fi, but even still 80/3 is still almost 27
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Camera nerds break down the Pixel 8 & Pro: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/7312687980/google-pixel-8-and-pixel-8-pro-camera-whats-new
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Anyone else have several Google Play system updates available in a row? I upgraded to Android 14 on my Pixel 6 yesterday, and today thought I'd check to see if there were Play updates, and there was - 4 in a row. I'd install one, restart the phone, check again, find another update, rinse and repeat. Do the Play updates function more old-school in that you have to install updates in order and I somehow just had a backlog? Or did they release several as a follow-on to Android 14?
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I know something was funky with it right after 14 because I was stuck on July on my Fold and it would tell me that the update failed when I tried to download it. But today I was able to do two in a row and I'm up to September.
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bull3964 posted:I know something was funky with it right after 14 because I was stuck on July on my Fold and it would tell me that the update failed when I tried to download it. But today I was able to do two in a row and I'm up to September. I'm pretty sure mine already showed it was on September throughout this whole string of updates, but I guess that's neither here nor there. I wish they made the Play updates a little easier to differentiate than just having a month attached to it. I mean, I'm sure there is a method to check the version more granularly, but 
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my local best buy has a pixel 8 on display. the screen is way brighter than my 7. in the last few years ive been able to transfer photos taken from display devices to my phone to post here for photo quality comparisons, but the nearby share feature wasn't working on the model i tried. the photos do look nicer, tho. more crisp and clear. the main takeaway tho is that the form factor is REALLY nice compared to the 7. on paper it's only slightly smaller but in the hand, even with the big ugly security thing on the back, it feels and looks much smaller and more comfortable and more polished due its more rounded design. the 7 is a nice feeling phone but in comparison to the 8 it looks like an old tv remote. i was skeptical and hesitant to upgrade from my 5 to a 6 and even to a 7 but this year its going to be hard to resist the 8 from a sheer form factor perspective. its a shame that the phone is so neutered in comparison to the pro this year and is probably not really worth the one year upgrade (imo).
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Anyone else have several Google Play system updates available in a row? I upgraded to Android 14 on my Pixel 6 yesterday, and today thought I'd check to see if there were Play updates, and there was - 4 in a row. I'd install one, restart the phone, check again, find another update, rinse and repeat. This happens to me whenever I manually check Play system updates in Security settings. I have no idea what's going on, but it feels like it just keeps looping in itself since the Last Updated [Month] 1, 2023 never actually changes or will even be blank for me. It doesn't seem to download or install anything, it just immediately wants me to reset 2-4 times.
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ShoogaSlim posted:
I've heard a few variations in that from a different places. One hands-on said that they liked the Pixel 7 when it came out, but the Pixel 8 immediately made it feel boxy and clunky.
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Resonance22 posted:This happens to me whenever I manually check Play system updates in Security settings. I have no idea what's going on, but it feels like it just keeps looping in itself since the Last Updated [Month] 1, 2023 never actually changes or will even be blank for me. It doesn't seem to download or install anything, it just immediately wants me to reset 2-4 times. Not for me - the ones today were all different sizes and took appropriately different amounts of time to download.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Not for me - the ones today were all different sizes and took appropriately different amounts of time to download. I went to check because of this, and there were 3 updates waiting. 145kb, 6.something mb, 2.2mb
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Artelier posted:So thanks to the couple of impressions in this thread I picked up the Xperia 1 V (especially since it went on a small sale and we don't officially get the Pixel series) and I'm loving it so far in these first days. Please add your impressions too so that I may live vicariously through you, and others, until Sony maybe puts it on sale in the US. Which color did you pick? I held one earlier this year and it felt perfect. The ridges and the bumps are all divine. I never use assistant and stumble upon a phone tree like once every two years, so all the AI stuff of the P8 and P8P doesn't interest me as much as a physical fingerprint reader, headphone jack, expandable storage, no ugly notch, Exmor T sensor, and the 21:9, 643 ppi display of the 1 V. (Mk VI with LTPO? Prob not at that resolution/density.) It's almost $400 cheaper to import one, for whatever reason, but I need one of the few missing bands in EU/SEA models for my carrier. There was a green one on Swappa with an unused pair of earbuds (preorder freebie) for just under $1,000 and someone else grabbed it while I deliberated, thankfully. Maybe next month...? 
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Bloodplay it again posted:Please add your impressions too so that I may live vicariously through you, and others, until Sony maybe puts it on sale in the US. You can buy one now from Best Buy. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-xperia-1-v-256gb-5g-unlocked/6544417.p?skuId=6544417 Unless you meant sale as in discount, but Sony won't do that until the VI is out.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Anyone else have several Google Play system updates available in a row? I upgraded to Android 14 on my Pixel 6 yesterday, and today thought I'd check to see if there were Play updates, and there was - 4 in a row. I'd install one, restart the phone, check again, find another update, rinse and repeat. Standard. I factory reset my Pixel 7 last night because I got a lot of UI stutter after the Android 14 update, and Google Play system update was back to July. About 4 updates and restarts later, I'm up to September.
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bull3964 posted:You can buy one now from Best Buy. Pretty sure they meant discount. Sony has already done a minor sale on the black 1 V about a month ago, green one didn't get a discount. About $200 off iirc.
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Branch Nvidian posted:Pretty sure they meant discount. Sony has already done a minor sale on the black 1 V about a month ago, green one didn't get a discount. About $200 off iirc. Whoops. Yes, I should have said "a sale." I saw the phone + earbuds + $50 Sony Store credit preorder promo, but I have only seen it go down $100 temporarily since it launched. I am seriously considering importing the silver 1 V from Europe, supported bands be damned, since most of my usage is with wifi anyway. I don't care too much about the missing 5g bands, but I use Google Fi/T-mo and I think band 71 is used for LTE service in most of the midwest. I would probably run into service issues when trying to visit friends and family. Weirdly, the EU and SEA models all have unlocked bootloaders, too, so you can flash US modem files. The US model is locked. 
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Bloodplay it again posted:Whoops. Yes, I should have said "a sale." I saw the phone + earbuds + $50 Sony Store credit preorder promo, but I have only seen it go down $100 temporarily since it launched. Yeah I don't know why the bootloader is locked on the US variant, but what can ya do? As far as supported bands, yes the SEA/EU versions lack band 71 which is used by T-Mobile for 5G and LTE coverage, though the Kimovil band checker says that Google Fi doesn't use that T-Mobile band for some reason? Likewise, Wifi calling works on Google Fi, but does NOT work natively on T-Mobile or Verizon for whatever reason; this is true for all variants of the 1 V and you cannot force enable it.
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Indeed, I am stuck with Fi for a bit longer if I want to get the max usage from the phone. I did not know Fi supposedly doesn't use that band, however. Sure would hate to buy the phone only for Google to outright cancel Fi shortly after. Been using it since 2015 and considered switching to Visible, but will stay if I grab a phone from Sony.
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I really am at a loss for what to replace my broken screen Pixel 5 with. If I get the replacement part, I'd probably do the battery as well, which here would be close to $400AUD, which I don't wanna drop cause if I gently caress it up, I don't have a backup phone to fall back on. I initially baulked at the price of the P8, but my carrier is giving away the watch 2 for free with pre order of either the 8 or the Pro, pro being way to expensive. So I could resell the watch if I felt like it (I won't). And with from what I've read that some of the software stuff is intentionally held back from the 8 to draw people to buy the pro is irking me somewhat. And I don't really wanna dip into Apple, or back to Samsung either, so I guess roll with the busted screen for as long as it takes?
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Puddin posted:I really am at a loss for what to replace my broken screen Pixel 5 with. I still have a Samsung note 8 that has a super cracked screen. I won't fix it because it's like 250 for the repair and the phone isn't even worth that much now but it still works as a backup phone. I just put a screen protector over the broken screen so it doesn't cut my fingers when I use it and besides the cracks being visible, it still works fine.
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Bloodplay it again posted:Indeed, I am stuck with Fi for a bit longer if I want to get the max usage from the phone. I did not know Fi supposedly doesn't use that band, however. Sure would hate to buy the phone only for Google to outright cancel Fi shortly after. Been using it since 2015 and considered switching to Visible, but will stay if I grab a phone from Sony. I think I misstated in my previous post, Google Fi doesn't use 71 for 5G, but it does use it for 4G. Since Visible uses the same bands as Verizon, with an SEA/EU variant you'd have 3 of the 7 5G bands and all of the 4G bands available to you, while the NA model has 5 of the 7 5G bands (no mmwave on any 1 V models). Something else to maybe keep in mind is that the XQ-DQ62 (NA) and XQ-DQ72 (SEA) variants support dual SIM cards but no eSIM, while the XQ-DQ54 variant (EU) is the only one that supports eSIM.
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I would have got a bigger discount on Fi but it's $65 a month and US Mobile is $25 so that's a non starter for me
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Somebody please help me! The Gmail app on my S21 running Android 13 One UI 5.1 has stopped sending me notifications of new mail. In fact, I don't think it actively checks for new mail unless the app is open as when I open it there's a few seconds before they show up. If the app is open then I do get notifications. The notification permissions are all granted. And I even cleared the cache, reset the app, and disabled then re-enabled it. I can't re-install it as you can't delete Gmail. Not sure what can be done and I am freaking out a little bit. Bright Bart fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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Oct 8, 2023 19:44
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Bright Bart posted:Somebody please help me! If you go to settings - Password and Accounts - Account Sync and go to your Gmail account - click Account Sync is sync turned on for your Gmail?
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Burden posted:If you go to settings - Password and Accounts - Account Sync and go to your Gmail account - click Account Sync is sync turned on for your Gmail? Yeah. And it's showing that it was last synced about an hour ago (when I had the app open).
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Bright Bart posted:Yeah. And it's showing that it was last synced about an hour ago (when I had the app open). And you don't have battery saver turned on or anything that would stop the sync?
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