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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Frosted Flake posted:

From the River to the Sea.

Remember the King David and Major Paeta Hess-Von Krudener .

Ok man we get it, you wish you were still British.

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RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

mawarannahr posted:

Civilians should never be the target of military operations. What the hell is wrong with you?

Gonna add a month for this bloodlust take. User loses posting privileges for 1 month.

are they referring to the settlers that steal Palestinians homes and land because gently caress them too. death to israel!

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

wait it's bannable to say settlers aren't civilians? i think many settlers would agree with that sentiment lol

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

the d&d thread lol. Lots of yanks waking up and getting very shocked and angry indeed about actions that they'd wholeheartedly support if they were being carried out by Ukrainians rather than Palestinians.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

lol lmao

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
I hope that fat rear end in a top hat from the viral house thief video is feeling unsafe right now

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
"A soldier from the enemy army...she became a guest in a Palestinian house. They provided her with food, drink, and clothing"
https://x.com/MayShigenobu/status/1710695564529311895?s=20

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

I hope that fat rear end in a top hat from the viral house thief video is feeling unsafe right now

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

i say swears online posted:

wait it's bannable to say settlers aren't civilians? i think many settlers would agree with that sentiment lol

Yeah they live in fortified compounds and they carry guns but

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

we have satellite

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Sancho Banana posted:

I dunno man I'm pretty sure the diamonds used in the making of that jewlery were first dug up by the german's distant ancestor in Gaul 2000 years ago

gaul is france switzerland and belgium

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

May the rebellion be successful, may the apartheid state be torn apart and left in the bin of history within our time

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Who could've possibly seen this coming, it was so out of left field

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

mawarannahr posted:

Civilians should never be the target of military operations. What the hell is wrong with you?

Gonna add a month for this bloodlust take. User loses posting privileges for 1 month.

lmao

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

He's right

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

VoicesCanBe posted:

Who could've possibly seen this coming, it was so out of left field

Hamas suddenly fielding a battalion of Abrams

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Pistol_Pete posted:

the d&d thread lol. Lots of yanks waking up and getting very shocked and angry indeed about actions that they'd wholeheartedly support if they were being carried out by Ukrainians rather than Palestinians.

another irreparable divide in the forums, love to see it. Pro-Israeli sentiment is back on SA baby! Awoo!

they're such sad predictable fuckers

Raiad
Feb 1, 2005

Without the law, there wouldn't be lawyers.


Red and Black posted:

If someone carjacks you at gunpoint, does that mean that it's not murder if you break into that person's house ten years later and shoot them and their children in their sleep, as long as you're doing it so you can safely search the house for your keys afterward?

The answer, by the way, is "No". Killing an unarmed person is murder. Even if that person has stolen your property in the past. Even if that person currently possesses your stolen property. Even if you're killing them to get your property back.

i feel like a better analogy would be if someone kidnapped me and trapped me in their basement for a decade, is it justified if i use explosives to escape, even if the kidnapper's family is caught in the blast

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

quote:

If you believe prior residence claims go back indefinitely then the Palestinians are the settlers since they moved in after the Jews were expelled by the Romans.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

gradenko_2000 posted:

code:
https://twitter.com/JLMelenchon/status/1710611123613954196
translation:

are you loving kidding me Jean-Luc. Piss off

Al-Saqr posted:

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1710654061618372659?s=20

I'm so happy this loving loser lost to a senile corpse.

cowardly cunts

Malleum
Aug 16, 2014

Am I the one at fault? What about me is wrong?
Buglord
the d&d population being perfectly split between tel aviv and fairfax really explains a lot

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
lmao

https://twitter.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1710679186883354731

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
Going to make sure not to speak to a lot of friends and family members today because i might damage some relationships otherwise.

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

a.lo posted:

May the rebellion be successful, may the apartheid state be torn apart and left in the bin of history within our time

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

oh so there's not going to be negotiations probably

Resistance News Network posted:

IOF warplanes bomb the home of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar in #Gaza.
(from t.me/PalestineResist/13415, via tgsa)

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Frosted Flake posted:

From the River to the Sea.

Remember the King David and Major Paeta Hess-Von Krudener .

the foundations of the Isreali military were built with the british

quote:

In the summer of 1937 this force was given the name "Defense of the Jewish Colonies", which was later changed to "Colony Police". It was organised under the supervision of the British Mandate throughout the length and breadth of the country, and the British undertook to train its members. In 1937 it was strengthened with 3,000 new members, all of whom played a direct role in repressive operations against the Palestinian rebels, especially in the North. In June 1938 the British decided that offensive operations must be undertaken against the rebels. They therefore held instruction courses on this subject which provided training to large numbers of Haganah cadres, who later became cadres of the `Israeli' army.108 At the beginning of 1939, the British army organized ten groups of Colony Police into well armed groups, which were given Hebrew names. Members of this force were allowed to abandon the Qalbaq, the official headgear, for the Australian bush hat, to make them even more distinctive. These groups totalled 14,411 men, each being commanded by a British officer, who was assisted by a second in command appointed by the Jewish Agency. By the spring of 1939 the Zionists also had 62 mechanised units of eight to ten men each.

In the spring of 1938 the British command decided to entrust to these Zionist elements the defense of railways between Haifa and Ludd that were blown up frequently by Palestinian commandos, and sent 434 members to execute this mission. However, only six months later the Jewish Agency had succeeded in raising their numbers to 800. This development was not only of service in the building up of Zionist military strength, but also helped to absorb and employ large numbers of unemployed Jewish workers, who were constantly increasing in numbers in the towns. In this ­way the Jewish proletariat was directed to work in repressive organizations, not only in British security projects directed against the revolt, but also in the Zionist military force.

The foundations of the Zionist military apparatus were laid under British supervision. The Zionist force which had been'' entrusted with the defence of the Haifa-Lydda railway was later given the defence of the oil pipeline in the Bashan plain. This pipeline, which had been recently constructed (1934) to bring oil from Kirkuk to Haifa, had several times been blown up by the Palestinian rebels.

This was of great symbolic value, The Arab rebels, who were aware of the value of the oil to the British exploiters, blew up the pipeline for the first time near Irbid on 15 July 1936. It was later blown up several times near the villages of Kaukab, Hawa. Mihna Israil, Iksal, and between at-Ufula and Bashan, and at Tell Adas, Bira, Ard al-Marj, Tamra, Kafr Misr, Jisr al-Majami, Jinjar, Bashan and Ain Daur. The British were unable to defend this vital pipeline, and admitted as much, that the "pipe" as the Palestinian Arab peasants called it, was enshrined in the folklore which glorified acts of popular heroism.

At any rate, the British secured minimum protection for the pipeline in two ways. Inside Palestine it was defended by Zionist groups while in Jordanian territory the task of guarding it was given to "Shaikh Turki ibn Zain, chief of the Zain subdivision of the Bani Sakhr tribe, whom the company authorized to patrol the desert by any means necessary."109

Ben Gurion almost reveals this fact directly when talking about British efforts to establish a Zionist Air Force, whose task was to be to safeguard these interests.

The British in an early stage were able to see the strategy called by the Americans 30 years later "Vietnamization". This was extremely important, because it was this incident that strengthened Britain's conviction that the formation of a Zionist striking force would solve many problems connected with the defence of Imperialist interests accompanied by efforts to form a Zionist armed force to protect these interests.

In this field the British officer Charles Orde Wingate played a prominent role in translating the British-Zionist alliance into practical action. Zionist historians try to give the impression that Wingate's efforts were the consequence of personal temperament and "idealistic" devotion. But it is clear that this intelligent officer, who was sent to Haifa by his chiefs in the autumn of 1937, had been entrusted with a specific task - the formation of the nuclei of striking forces for the Zionist armed force which had been in existence for at least six months, but which needed crystallisation and preparation.

This British officer, whom "Israeli" soldiers regard as the real founder of the "Israeli" army, made the pipe-line problems his special task, However, this task led on to a series of operations involving terrorism and killing, and it was Wingate who took upon himself the task of teaching his pupils at Ain Daur - among whom was Dayan - to become an expert in such operations.

There can be no doubt that, in addition to his qualifications as an experienced imperialist officer, Wingate was equipped with an unlimited racialist hatred for the Arabs. It is clear from the biographies written by those who knew him that he enjoyed killing or torturing Arab. peasants, or humiliating them in any way.110

Through imperialists like Wingate, and through reactionary leaders of the type of the Amir Abdullah the British were making it possible for the Zionist movement to become at both military and economic levels, a beach-head to guard their interests. All this happened from the conviction of all concerned that the leadership of the Palestinian nationalist movement was not sufficiently revolutionary to enable it to stand up to these closely united enemies.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kanafani/1972/revolt.htm

Oglethorpe
Aug 8, 2005

you never kill the leader of the opposition in an ongoing conflict. hope nobody was home

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique


Remember the King David and the 750 British soldiers and police killed in Palestine by these terrorists from 1945-48.

e: Wingate, yeah... idk what the gently caress all of that was about. They wanted to keep control of Suez and backed the wrong horse.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

I hope that fat rear end in a top hat from the viral house thief video is feeling unsafe right now

i think that guy was in Jerusalem and idk if anything has happened there yet

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
wtf I supported the Palestinians while they were getting murdered but this is too much. The Palestinian people need to settle down and go back to walking into sniper fire

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
remember when orde wingate made a raiding force during WW2, hated indians so much that he didn't have indian troops there and then the raiders just got dysentery on raids?

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Frosted Flake posted:

From the River to the Sea.

til the sweat drop down my balls

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhvwc_izptw

Some music.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

wtf I supported the Palestinians while they were getting murdered but this is too much. The Palestinian people need to settle down and go back to walking into sniper fire

did the Palestinians even try voting to not be occupied and slaughtered?

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

HallelujahLee posted:

its way better imo not amazing but whatever

Even that level of tepidness from Corbyn was too much for the Blairites who ruined his chances at becoming PM. The UK is a cursed island.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007
https://twitter.com/CJPME/status/1710699167960477734

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

VoicesCanBe posted:

Even that level of tepidness from Corbyn was too much for the Blairites who ruined his chances at becoming PM. The UK is a cursed island.

That bland support for peace was evidence of his virulent antisemitism and is the reason we will never be allowed to have nice things ever again

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clh9BYuoBRY

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

new Eli Valley:

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deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


Red and Black posted:

If someone carjacks you at gunpoint, does that mean that it's not murder if you break into that person's house ten years later and shoot them and their children in their sleep, as long as you're doing it so you can safely search the house for your keys afterward?

The answer, by the way, is "No". Killing an unarmed person is murder. Even if that person has stolen your property in the past. Even if that person currently possesses your stolen property. Even if you're killing them to get your property back.

If that person told me that they and their nuclear armed professional military friends plan on carjacking me and my family on a regular basis as their stated national policy id do everything in my power to stop them. The stupid bait and switch is that the land grab is entirely in the past for their rhetorical purposes, while Israel openly tells everyone settlements are to be continued and sped up.

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