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The release of plastic MkVI Marines and retro-style land raiders got me back into WH last year, after a nearly 20 year hiatus. There's something I love about the Rogue Trader era miniatures, although they were all released before I was born. I have a plan to have 2 identical armies, one of RT originals and then another of the HH updated versions. This plan has already failed after realising that a RT land raider will bankrupt me, but I've managed to pick up some RT MkVI marines and a Rhino alongside the HH versions. I can see why the HH dreadnoughts have a different design philosophy than the rest of the range, as I think the RT dreadnoughts would be hard to make a really good modern design of. Having said that, I'm not sure that I really like the current trend of having a tiny little head poking out of the mech, and I prefer the sarcophagus style. So upon buying a Leviathan Dread - a design I otherwise really like - I decided to try my hand at doing my first conversion for over 20 years. Using an Imperial Knight Optics Turret, the turret optics from an IG Hydra or Wyvern, and some HH Predator support optics. The sunken-in nature of the central body really allows for the hiding of a lot of crimes. I'm actually really pleased with the result, personally: https://ibb.co/SBBy9Mg https://ibb.co/23QrVxs
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# ? May 24, 2024 15:31 |
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Rasler posted:The release of plastic MkVI Marines and retro-style land raiders got me back into WH last year, after a nearly 20 year hiatus. There's something I love about the Rogue Trader era miniatures, although they were all released before I was born. I have a plan to have 2 identical armies, one of RT originals and then another of the HH updated versions. This plan has already failed after realising that a RT land raider will bankrupt me, but I've managed to pick up some RT MkVI marines and a Rhino alongside the HH versions. That is legitimately so cool, what legion are you going to do 'em up as? I can totally see some mechanicum priests having gone a bit OTT on some dreads.
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# ? Sep 21, 2023 20:29 |
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That conversion would work great for Iron Hands or Iron Warriors. Or maybe Salamanders. I think you've got the shoulders on backwards though. If that's intended, just ignore me.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 13:17 |
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Yeah, the shoulders are backwards, but the conversion looks great and "more front facing tech" fits enough I didn't notice at a first pass. Very nice. Built my second Levi yesterday myself, need to get those both primed and painted already - I'm way behind on painting at this point...
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 15:26 |
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Who hasn't accidentally put shoulders on backward before? Definitely not me: https://imgur.com/8RKze0j
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 15:57 |
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Thanks for your kind words, and also for pointing out my error with the shoulders! It was in fact a genuine mistake - I assumed that the optic looking thing on the shoulder was for aiming with a weapon and so put them on that way without checking the manual, oops! I have now fixed the error and swapped them around - it did kinda match with the converted head but not with the rest of the back of the mini. As for paint scheme, I'm going with blackshields so that I can make my own scheme. I have already started to paint a HH land raider up in what I think the final scheme will end up being: https://imgur.com/a/mXXaQ1p https://imgur.com/a/tDM1V3C
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 17:12 |
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I love weird dreadnought conversions! Yours owns.
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# ? Sep 22, 2023 22:06 |
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Rasler posted:I can see why the HH dreadnoughts have a different design philosophy than the rest of the range, as I think the RT dreadnoughts would be hard to make a really good modern design of. Having said that, I'm not sure that I really like the current trend of having a tiny little head poking out of the mech, and I prefer the sarcophagus style. Your Leviathan conversion does look great. My understanding is that the Contemptor is meant to be a modern (well, 2011 era) reimagining of the classic Rogue Trader dreadnought, just as the Deredeo is a reimagining of the classic Space Crusade dreadnought. Whether or not they hit as reimaginings of those ideas is up in the air, but given that ForgeWorld seems to have started when a bunch of Citadel people decided they wanted to do more realistic psudeo-historical tanks for the Imperial Guard, it's not surprising that their takes on the RT dreadnoughts were the miniature equivalent of dressing the X-Men up in black leather because yellow spandex is too goofy. Not sure whether the Leviathan is meant to be a reimagining of any earlier model in specific. Maybe someone else in this thread knows.
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 08:33 |
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strictly speaking the modern Contemptor is a take on the dreadnought redesign that appeared in Epic 40k, rather than the RT dreadnought(s); sticks very close to that design actually. been waiting on them to have a similar crack at the bigger chaos dread from Space Crusade expansion for years, very rude of them to leave me waiting. and yeah, Leviathan's not really a specific reference to any older thing, just a blend of the styles
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 10:06 |
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This scheme is nice, I like how it breaks up the big brick profile of the land raider
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 15:29 |
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Rasler posted:As for paint scheme, I'm going with blackshields so that I can make my own scheme. I have already started to paint a HH land raider up in what I think the final scheme will end up being:
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# ? Sep 23, 2023 18:35 |
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im thinking about dipping a toe in to heresy but I’m a little confused about what’s coming out and how it works in general. what new infantry plastic kits are coming out besides mk3? someone said mk 6 is coming out soon too? I just bought a box of beakies to use as Chosen and I’m gonna be sad if they’re already out of date. I know WB are grey armored in the heresy and the red didn’t come in til later, will red word bearers look out of place? there’s all these marks of armor, can you mix and match to create different types of squads? can beakies be mixed in with mk3? Finally, I have a shitload of 40K units im curious about the viability of running in Heresy, namely predator destructors, rhino, and the old Land Raider. not the old old metal one but whichever one was available ~12 years ago. also curious if I can run my Helbrutes as anything like maybe a Contemptor—they’re the old dark vengeance helbrutes that only had one build option, which is melta and scourge. i also have a handful of 40K wardogs, are there baby knights in 30k or big guys only?
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 17:50 |
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:im thinking about dipping a toe in to heresy but I’m a little confused about what’s coming out and how it works in general. what new infantry plastic kits are coming out besides mk3? someone said mk 6 is coming out soon too? I just bought a box of beakies to use as Chosen and I’m gonna be sad if they’re already out of date. I know WB are grey armored in the heresy and the red didn’t come in til later, will red word bearers look out of place?
You might wanna get your hands on the Liber Hereticus (traitor codex) to see all the units and their loadouts available to you. cheers!
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 18:09 |
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The rules for the 40k Land Raider (phobos) is in 30k's in Legion Astartes Legacies (direct link), along with a few other primarily 40k units.
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# ? Sep 25, 2023 19:10 |
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Still waiting to find some shoulders (and find the left hands that I know are around here somewhere in my bits box), but I think I've got all the other components I need to build a squad of Dawnbreakers for some BA allies. They won't be done until the assault squad releases, but at my current dismal painting pace, I probably won't be done painting them until then anyway.
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# ? Sep 27, 2023 20:54 |
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Really been enjoying building and converting my Sons of Horus. Played two games of ZM so far at 500 points, had a lot of fun, got my poo poo molten by Plasma Fusil Myrmidons. Building some Terminators next to deal with those, for my next 750 points game.
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# ? Sep 28, 2023 08:29 |
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Figures this would probably be the best place to ask, but I'm looking into possibly staying a Custodes army in Epic, preparing for Legions Imperialis (whenever that comes out). However, the list that's used says something about Ephoroi Custodes, and for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out what the heck they're talking about. Am I just missing them, are they a 40k unit that someone forgot to change when making a 30k list, or do they just not even exist as models, just mentioned in the lore?
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 02:04 |
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Aniodia posted:Figures this would probably be the best place to ask, but I'm looking into possibly staying a Custodes army in Epic, preparing for Legions Imperialis (whenever that comes out). However, the list that's used says something about Ephoroi Custodes, and for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out what the heck they're talking about. Am I just missing them, are they a 40k unit that someone forgot to change when making a 30k list, or do they just not even exist as models, just mentioned in the lore? Aren't those the custodes armored in black that you see in that Horus v Emps art piece?
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 02:47 |
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S.J. posted:Aren't those the custodes armored in black that you see in that Horus v Emps art piece? I think I know what picture you're talking about, and maybe? I'll just need to look into it a bit more.
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 17:52 |
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Aniodia posted:Figures this would probably be the best place to ask, but I'm looking into possibly staying a Custodes army in Epic, preparing for Legions Imperialis (whenever that comes out). However, the list that's used says something about Ephoroi Custodes, and for the life of me, I can't seem to figure out what the heck they're talking about. Am I just missing them, are they a 40k unit that someone forgot to change when making a 30k list, or do they just not even exist as models, just mentioned in the lore? The Ephoroi are the "sneaky" division of the Custodes who do all the covert ops/spy stuff. There are several forces of black armored Custodes:
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# ? Sep 29, 2023 22:04 |
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Classic loadout, for classic dudemans. Bonus full squad picture:
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 21:06 |
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Hell yeah
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 21:15 |
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The armour studs are such an iconic look imho
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# ? Oct 4, 2023 21:31 |
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I tried my Hammerfall Bunker tonight. It's so bad.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 05:21 |
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moths posted:I tried my Hammerfall Bunker tonight. I'm sad to hear that; it's one of the few newer 40k models I like. There's something about dropping a turret from space that scratches the Dawn of War itch
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 06:51 |
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The idea of a drop pod assault supported by a hammerfall bunker is so neat in theory.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 08:20 |
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Hammerfall deployment is limited to your deployment zone, after everything else is deployed. Good luck with those flamers. It doesn't have firing protocols, so you're paying 150 points for at least three TL heavy bolters / flamers that will never fire. (At least one will be pointed at your table edge all game.) The cool double-missile pod artillery turret is a cyclone missile launcher. And not a twin-linked one. BS2. As a Fortification, it's illegal in the Drop Pod Assault RoW. It's a serious contender for worst unit in Heresy. It needed deep strike and firing protocols to be worth 150 points. You want this blocking a lane and barfing fire, but it just sits in your DZ until you forget about it on turn 2.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 12:34 |
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Aren't Fortifications allowed to shoot all their weapon, but have to target a single unit? It's in the legacies pdf, so I don't know if it's been overruled. It's still terrible that it has to slam down in your own deployment zone.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 12:57 |
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I was just wondering if I'd missed that.quote:A model with the Fortification Unit Type may attack with all weapons it has in each Shooting Phase, targeting a single enemy unit unless another special rule allows it to do otherwise. So you can shoot all the guns in opposite directions if they'll all hit the same target. That's why it needs (but doesn't have) firing protocols. E: and I think that's why it's so expensive. You're paying to shoot 4 TL heavy bolters or flamers every turn, except the game won't ever let you. moths fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Oct 5, 2023 |
# ? Oct 5, 2023 13:15 |
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Firing protocols doesn't allow you to target multiple units, does it? I'm still pretty new at this, so it's a genuine question? Defensive Weapons can do it, but fortifications can't have those. Machine Sprits does it, but fortifications can't have those. It would be nice to have a "building with a ton of guns, just shoot!" rule.
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 14:54 |
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my bad, I got FP(x) confused with PotMS:quote:Power of the Machine Spirit
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# ? Oct 5, 2023 15:27 |
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I painted an Imperial Fist!
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 19:39 |
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:I painted an Imperial Fist! That is a lovely vibrant yellow
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# ? Oct 6, 2023 21:06 |
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I was looking at the article that had the bound daemons rules, and it says that we would get the full ruinstorm daemons list by the end of the summer. Has there been an update that I missed or any rumors?
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 03:40 |
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Ristolaz posted:I was looking at the article that had the bound daemons rules, and it says that we would get the full ruinstorm daemons list by the end of the summer. Has there been an update that I missed or any rumors? Nah they just overpromised again
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 03:43 |
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It is always summer in England.
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 12:21 |
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Big set of pre-orders coming next week. -Exemplary Battles of the Age of Darkness: Volume I -Legiones Astartes Battle Group -Updates Mk3's -Plastic Deredeo -Sons of horus resin weapon upgrades https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/08/sunday-preview-new-releases-abound-from-the-age-of-darkness/ Ristolaz posted:I was looking at the article that had the bound daemons rules, and it says that we would get the full ruinstorm daemons list by the end of the summer. Has there been an update that I missed or any rumors? Are we out of the corporate fiscal summer yet? Maybe there's still time?
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 18:29 |
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I'm gonna get the New Box. And the Book.
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 19:30 |
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hell yea, plastic mk3s. finally i can make a death guard army to go with my big e's kids. well, mk3s my local shops will carry, i should say.
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 19:53 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 15:31 |
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God I love the new plastic dreadnoughts
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# ? Oct 8, 2023 20:12 |