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Zero VGS posted:He's saying it because building anti-terror cooperation with Israel is a good idea. Both countries are in the business of intercepting missiles aimed at civilians, and the more tech and resources they share with each other the better. You think he would risk picking a side if he didn't (correctly) think his choice would benefit Ukraine eventually? Also apart from "we condemn this attack on civilians", which, obviously, don't underestimate maintaining good diplomatic relations in order for Ukrainians in the region to have good support getting out of there. It may not be Biden but I'm sure the State Department and US regional embassies are putting effort into the same thing.
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Oct 8, 2023 22:43
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Even if Israel has only provided Ukraine with lukewarm support at best, Israel's allies have for the most part supported Ukraine, and Hamas' allies for the most part Russia. It's an easy choice to make for Zelensky.
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Oct 8, 2023 22:53
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spankmeister posted:Even if Israel has only provided Ukraine with lukewarm support at best, Israel's allies have for the most part supported Ukraine, and Hamas' allies for the most part Russia. It's an easy choice to make for Zelensky. Yeah, anyone shocked by this needs to step back and think for a sec
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Oct 8, 2023 23:01
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Zero VGS posted:He's saying it because building anti-terror cooperation with Israel is a good idea. Both countries are in the business of intercepting missiles aimed at civilians, and the more tech and resources they share with each other the better. You think he would risk picking a side if he didn't (correctly) think his choice would benefit Ukraine eventually? I mean, obviously, but my point is that it doesn't matter with regard to the war and I'd rather avoid the endless I/R fighting that'll get the thread shut down permanently.
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Oct 8, 2023 23:06
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fondue posted:They're not dead civilians unless it happens in france, otherwise they're just effervescent corpses. all corpses are effervescent if they're underwater
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Oct 8, 2023 23:11
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I wonder why Zelensky would condemn attacks of zero military value that entirely sought out civilian targets to mass murder and rape in the most shocking and traumatic ways possible. It's probably a complex web interests and real-politik that only the most brilliant IR expert could decode.
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Oct 8, 2023 23:35
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Most of the world is saying what Zelensky is saying right now
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Oct 8, 2023 23:41
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Many are saying https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/267286471172562944?s=20
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Oct 8, 2023 23:52
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Baronjutter posted:I wonder why Zelensky would condemn attacks of zero military value that entirely sought out civilian targets to mass murder and rape in the most shocking and traumatic ways possible. It's probably a complex web interests and real-politik that only the most brilliant IR expert could decode. Because Zelenskyy either is pandering for more weapons or is dumb Zzulu posted:Most of the world is saying what Zelensky is saying right now Most of the western media is dumb in regards to Israel
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Oct 9, 2023 00:08
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Tai posted:Because Zelenskyy either is pandering for more weapons or is dumb thhanks for explaining i guess we can wrap up this convo
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Oct 9, 2023 00:13
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Tai posted:Because Zelenskyy either is pandering for more weapons or is dumb This uh, reads way too much like "rape and murder is fine when MY side does it" and I think I don't want you in the thread if that's the case.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:22
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Baronjutter posted:I wonder why Zelensky would condemn attacks of zero military value that entirely sought out civilian targets to mass murder and rape in the most shocking and traumatic ways possible. It's probably a complex web interests and real-politik that only the most brilliant IR expert could decode.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:24
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Kchama posted:This uh, reads way too much like "rape and murder is fine when MY side does it" and I think I don't want you in the thread if that's the case. No it doesn't. See the gold mined IP thread or my post history.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:25
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Baronjutter posted:I wonder why Zelensky would condemn attacks of zero military value that entirely sought out civilian targets to mass murder and rape in the most shocking and traumatic ways possible. It's probably a complex web interests and real-politik that only the most brilliant IR expert could decode.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:26
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Tai posted:No it doesn't. See the gold mined IP thread or my post history. Then why do you call it 'dumb' for Zelensky to condemn staging murder-rape raids on civilians? EDIT: Much less pandering.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:28
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Kchama posted:Then why do you call it 'dumb' for Zelensky to condemn staging murder-rape raids on civilians? Because Zelenskyy is on the receiving end of a larger more powerful country making GBS threads on the country he is president of. Much like how Israel, a larger more powerful country is making GBS threads on Palestine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 9, 2023 00:31
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Tai posted:Because Zelenskyy is on the receiving end of a larger more powerful country making GBS threads on the country he is president of. Much like how Israel, a larger more powerful country is making GBS threads on Palestine. If you notice, he hasn't done murder-rape raids on civilians in Russia. You seem to be implying that these attacks are justified because Israel sucks. I think my initial assessment was correct.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:33
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No he hasn't. Hamas has. I'm not condoning the actual acts of hamas. I'm making GBS threads on Israel who have spent decades making GBS threads on Palestine which has spawned this evil that is currently happening to Israeli citizens. Israel created hamas due to treating Palestine like utter poo poo for decades.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:37
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Tai posted:No he hasn't. Hamas has. I'm not condoning the actual acts of hamas. I'm making GBS threads on Israel who have spent decades making GBS threads on Palestine which has spawned this evil that is currently happening to Israeli citizens. Israel created hamas due to treating Palestine like utter poo poo for decades. No poo poo that Hamas did the attacks. I'm saying the reason why he's condemning the attacks is because he thinks they are bad matter who the other side is. Which is why he isn't doing the same in his war. Because they are bad. There is nothing dumb or pandering to go "Doing this sucks and is awful." You say you don't condone it, sure, but you also don't blame them for it and also call someone who is condemning it 'dumb' for doing so. Kchama fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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Oct 9, 2023 00:39
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Hey friends here's an idea: please do keep talking about Israel vs Palestine in this, the Ukraine thread. This is exactly what everyone wants to read here and will definitely not have the thread shut down or anything Re Ukraine, Reuters reports that some Ukrainian official is saying Russia is expected to massively increase their drone strikes over this winter. Last winter the count was approx 1,000 Shaheds over six months, this year it's already been 500 Shaheds in September alone. This seems bad Ok sorry about that back to how this is all about Palestine somehow
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Oct 9, 2023 00:42
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jaete posted:Hey friends here's an idea: please do keep talking about Israel vs Palestine in this, the Ukraine thread. This is exactly what everyone wants to read here and will definitely not have the thread shut down or anything This You're not getting sixers if you continue to try to make this an I/P thread
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Oct 9, 2023 00:44
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Stolen from the D&D thread, this is a really good video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmd-QG7Ve0E
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Oct 9, 2023 00:48
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jaete posted:Hey friends here's an idea: please do keep talking about Israel vs Palestine in this, the Ukraine thread. This is exactly what everyone wants to read here and will definitely not have the thread shut down or anything I was mad, sorry. Please put it in the newspapers that I was mad.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:49
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Toxic Mental posted:Stolen from the D&D thread, this is a really good video: He and Perun are the top explainers for the conflict, at least from the "actually in the MIC" camp. Both are pro-follows.
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Oct 9, 2023 01:00
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Kchama posted:I was mad, sorry. Please put it in the newspapers that I was mad. 
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Oct 9, 2023 01:09
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Oct 9, 2023 01:28
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Oct 9, 2023 01:31
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Holy poo poo
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Oct 9, 2023 01:32
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I literally asked for it, so thanks.
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Oct 9, 2023 01:39
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Oct 9, 2023 01:40
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Toxic Mental posted:Stolen from the D&D thread, this is a really good video: are we now common thieves?? (good video thanks)
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Oct 9, 2023 01:44
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New Perun Ukraine's Counteroffensive - Breach, not Breakthrough: Minefields, tactics and emerging lessons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjf_vAkaBS8 Discuss.
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Oct 9, 2023 02:18
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Wild if true.
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Oct 9, 2023 02:31
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People are saying!
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Oct 9, 2023 03:48
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neato burrito posted:People are saying! Only some though, not many. Mostly people are saying he is apoplectic.
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Oct 9, 2023 04:26
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Runa posted:This was kind of a surreal exchange, ngl You can get probated for insufficient zeal in support the Ukrainian war effort. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 9, 2023 05:45
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Oct 9, 2023 07:27
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loving beautiful a kramer wannabe gets banned and we get a great photoshop it's a good day
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Oct 9, 2023 08:30
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Elden Lord Godfrey posted:You can get probated for insufficient zeal in support the Ukrainian war effort. You did not get probated for that at all. Or that guy. Also  you're still fuming over a sixxer from four months ago.
Kchama fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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Oct 9, 2023 08:58
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