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Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

all those senior officers got captured because they were at the rave.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

ran across a guy claiming to be a socialist who seamlessly transitioned from "look sometimes you volunteer to fight for the SS and that's okay" to "how dare you suggest the rapemurder animal hordes of the palestinians are worthy of anything more than extermination" earlier

depressingly i'm pretty sure he's not real, but fun for a laugh.





this is probably going to keep happening for anyone enterprising enough to dig

The Unnamed One
Jan 13, 2012

"BOOM!"

ddinkins posted:

lol "oh yeah that was just one guy though, the rest of us weren't anything like that"

Followed immediately by "then some other soldiers burned people alive, because if they didn't it would look bad"

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
there were two reigns of terror

-- mark twain

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

i havent even seen mention of rape from all the weird aipac freaks. that marianne post is insane and even that doesnt mention it. its like dnd just willed it to be true on their own.

its working its way into a few news articles

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



so what I get from this is mossad ain’t poo poo

How!
Oct 29, 2009


he don’t miss

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Mr. Sharps posted:

so what I get from this is mossad ain’t poo poo

that's why people are saying they let it happen lol

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

paul_soccer12 posted:

As far as I know, we have basically 0 evidence they have succeeded in any significant military context, outside of catching the IDF with their pants literally down at one installation. It's only been one day, they are wildly outmatched in tech, they almost certainly aren't trained with any equipment they captured. I can't say I know what Hamas is specifically hoping to achieve, but they probably have very bad odds of holding territory for long, and I'm not convinced they DO have strong strategic leadership

didnt they capture the general in command of the entire south of israel in bed in his underwear. who was that guy

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

speng31b posted:

yeah the whole thing seems very fog of war and yet there are a cadre of people who can't shut the gently caress up about sexual violence in every single post they make. pretty epic

It's a staple of propaganda in colonial wars, from the Americas, to India, to Africa.

"Think of what those savages would do if let loose on your women and children" serves as justification for violence before, during and after some sort of rising.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

gradenko_2000 posted:





this is probably going to keep happening for anyone enterprising enough to dig

lol these same libs are also praising Doug Ford for saying he won’t tolerate people saying that Palestinians are human beings

Zurtilik
Oct 23, 2015

The Biggest Brain in Guardia
https://apnews.com/live/israel-hamas-war-live-updates#0000018b-1201-d9c2-a7ab-5e21bb650000


quote:



Former U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said there is bipartisan unity in Congress “in support of what we need to do” to support Israel.

Speaking at an event in San Francisco on Sunday organized by the Jewish Community Relations Council Bay Area, Pelosi condemned the attacks on Israel as “acts of cowardice.”

“I want you to know that in the Congress of the United States … there is unity, bipartisan unity in support of what we need to do, whether it’s militarily, whether it’s diplomatically, whether it’s financially to help our friends, the Israelis,” Pelosi said, according to a recording of her remarks provided by her office.

Pelosi said the surprise attack from the Gaza Strip was “outside the circle of civilized human behavior.”

“This assault on these children, on these grandmas, on these families, is something that takes us to a different threshold of how we deal with this subject,” she said.




Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?
lepers colony lookin like a list of israeli generals

Mr. Sharps
Jul 30, 2006

The only true law is that which leads to freedom. There is no other.



hearing reports that hamas is operating under the leadership of one Rico Rodriguez

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Let that be a lesson for you Hamas. Take no prisoners, kill everybody and use a flamethrower to burn the evidence.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

lepers colony lookin like a list of israeli generals

lol

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

like the most oafish corrupt bigoted politician can just say he hates Palestinians and the liberal media establishment is like “This is when Rob Fords brother became Premier”

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

It's a staple of propaganda in colonial wars, from the Americas, to India, to Africa.

"Think of what those savages would do if let loose on your women and children" serves as justification for violence before, during and after some sort of rising.

yep, you'll run across is being wielded the exact same way for hundreds of years. If it works, it works!

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

bitch

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/yifullofsin/status/1711021627205439742?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1711185184177975447

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Isentropy posted:

“This is when Rob Fords brother became Premier”

'I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons.'

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014


lol RIP Ukraine, last years fad

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

lol

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Mr. Sharps posted:

so what I get from this is mossad ain’t poo poo

They seemed to be phoning in for years now, probably a combination of nepotism and brain drain.

Anyway, there is a lot of talk about the invincibility of the IDF and they are going to crush the Palastinians "like a bug" is allowed but it really does seem there are a lot of glaring issues present. Even before the war it seems like their artillery corps have been atrophied over the years, and it seems like they haven't setup with armor to deal with actual 21st century combat (dispersion, heavy use of cage armor rather than APS).

There is also the structure of the IDF ground force which is an issue. While on paper, it is often claimed it is a "half a million" strong force. In reality, it is about 325k of reservists (which get about a month of refresher courses a year), and 100-125k active duty with 50-60% of them being annual conscriptions. The actual full time professional force on the ground may actually be 50-60k which honestly isn't much considering the potential threats they are facing and that their back up may be completely green or practically civilians.

There is the other issue just due to the demographics of the country, and the fact they already conscript women, that force is more or less it because 40% of the population isn't actively involved in the military due to religious restriction (non-Jewish Israelis or Haredi) and you still need someone to be cops and run the rest of society.

It is why for decades Israel has preferred to fight from the air, because they know that a grueling ground campaign wouldn't be in their favor in the long-term especially if it is on multiple fronts.

It is why I am more and more skeptical of them wanting to get engaged into street by street urban combat with Hamas with potentially Hezbollah there as well.

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
breathlessly waiting for the dnd thread to reach the perfect moral position on the desert rave. should only be another dozen or so pages. after that i'm sure they'll move on to the uh other stuff.

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for the residents of the Gaza Strip - Israeli Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs tweets: “The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one as well!”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/cabinet-secretary-yossi-fuchs-the-first-gaza-war-is-planned-to-be-the-last-one/

Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs: ‘The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one’
2hr ago

Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs tweets: “The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one as well!”

(Though there have been numerous brutal conflicts between Israel and the Strip, Fuchs appears to be signaling a different scale of battle, as Israel never before officially declared a state of war against Gaza as it has now.)

Fuchs relates his meeting with his late grandfather after the 9/11 attacks in 2001, in which the latter told him “If al-Qaeda managed to carry out such an attack, they’ll take over the world.”

“I calmed him and told him it was a wake-up call and that such terror would be defeated.”

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Mola Yam posted:

breathlessly waiting for the dnd thread to reach the perfect moral position on the desert rave. should only be another dozen or so pages. after that i'm sure they'll move on to the uh other stuff.

https://youtu.be/bNj_6lMe7Vo?si=Ci-qbndyQaPaIJvp

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Bad news for four soldiers in Shtula - Four soldiers in Shtula, near the Lebanon border, have been lightly-to-moderately wounded in northern Israel in a friendly fire incident.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/four-soldiers-lightly-to-moderately-hurt-in-friendly-fire-incident-in-north/

Four soldiers lightly-to-moderately hurt in friendly fire incident in north
2 hours ago

Four soldiers have been lightly-to-moderately wounded in northern Israel in a friendly fire incident.

Forces in Shtula, near the Lebanon border, encountered a vehicle that arrived at high speed and attempted to bypass their checkpoint. The forces opened fire.

It later became clear that the car was a military vehicle. Four soldiers inside were hurt.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

I'm gonna get personal and probably really depressed here, but I teach 7th and 8th grade social studies and this is depressing the gently caress out of me. I deal with the attitude that leads to having a rave next door to a concentration camp. I deal with kids that say "who cares" and "why do we have to learn this" non-stop. Palestine invading Israel is literally the most predictable poo poo for anyone who's paying attention. I don't even feel like I can bring this into the classroom, but I feel like I REALLY should, because I bet at least half of those idiots at the rave thought "well this will never effect me, so gently caress it" during their social studies classes, too. It's all so dire, man, the fascists are going to win because it's easier to be stupid and comfortable than properly educated and involved.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

If Israel loses badly enough this will certainly be their last war.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

smoobles posted:

lol RIP Ukraine, last years fad

praise Allah

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Atrocious Joe posted:

If Israel loses badly enough this will certainly be their last war.

inshallah

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

fizzy posted:

Bad news for the residents of the Gaza Strip - Israeli Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs tweets: “The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one as well!”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/cabinet-secretary-yossi-fuchs-the-first-gaza-war-is-planned-to-be-the-last-one/

Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs: ‘The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one’
2hr ago

Cabinet Secretary Yossi Fuchs tweets: “The First Gaza War is planned to be the last one as well!”

(Though there have been numerous brutal conflicts between Israel and the Strip, Fuchs appears to be signaling a different scale of battle, as Israel never before officially declared a state of war against Gaza as it has now.)

Fuchs relates his meeting with his late grandfather after the 9/11 attacks in 2001, in which the latter told him “If al-Qaeda managed to carry out such an attack, they’ll take over the world.”

“I calmed him and told him it was a wake-up call and that such terror would be defeated.”

not going to answer this in the most obvious way possible

are they listening to themselves? of course not

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

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1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
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Alleged Hamas speech before the raid:

We are peaceful people, we are loving people. We love everybody who loves us. But we don’t love anybody who doesn’t love us. We’re nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us. But we are not nonviolent with anyone who is violent with us.

...

Whatever kind of action program can be devised to get us the thing that are ours by right, then I’m for that action no matter what the action is.

I don’t think when a man is being criminally treated, that some criminal has the right to tell that man what tactics to use to get the criminal off his back. When a criminal starts misusing me, I’m going to use whatever necessary to get that criminal off my back.

And the injustice that has been inflicted on listeners by EDM fans in this country is criminal.

Jon Pod Van Damm has issued a correction as of 02:49 on Oct 9, 2023

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

If Israel loses badly enough this will certainly be their last war.

Israel should be destroyed if this is true

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Ardennes posted:

It is why I am more and more skeptical of them wanting to get engaged into street by street urban combat with Hamas with potentially Hezbollah there as well.

Israelis aren't operating on any kind of rational basis anymore, they're baying for blood and are desperate for revenge. That's the kind of toxic mix that blinds anyone to what's practical or makes sense. There's no sense to be had. Israelis are in rage mode.

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Israelis aren't operating on any kind of rational basis anymore, they're baying for blood and are desperate for revenge. That's the kind of toxic mix that blinds anyone to what's practical or makes sense. There's no sense to be had. Israelis are in rage mode.

and israel needs to attack each round or else the rage ends

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