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Engorged Pedipalps posted:It's so obvious that one hand does not know what the other hand is doing over there right now what exactly would change the nutjob in charge is literally calling for genocide Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised to “change the Middle East” in the country’s war with Hamas. “What Hamas will experience will be difficult and terrible … we are going to change the Middle East,” the 73-year-old leader told officials from southern Israel. “This is only the beginning … we are all with you and we will defeat them with force, enormous force.”
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gonna have to step up her soy face game if she wants to trend on youtube
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PhilippAchtel posted:lol Palestinian deaths literally off the charts. "Hmm, how does this affect Israelis?"
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https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1711387394606277041 Trying to bomb Gaza into submission
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PostNouveau posted:Do I have my timelines right, they had a rave 5 km from the Gaza border like a day AFTER Hamas started attacking? Day of. Theres video of ravers with the Hamas paragliders coming in behind them. They threw a rave right outside the walls of Gaza and happened to pick the landing zone for the assault.
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PostNouveau posted:Do I have my timelines right, they had a rave 5 km from the Gaza border like a day AFTER Hamas started attacking? no it was happening the morning of the attack
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HallelujahLee posted:what exactly would change the nutjob in charge is literally calling for genocide It was touched on by another article earlier in the thread but the Israeli military is generally a secular force and the Israeli government is aligned more with religious authority, the policy of antagonization and aggression towards Palestine has been more in the governments camp than the military and there's more secular people in service than Orthodox so the schism exists to support a coup even if the willpower hasn't materialized
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:It was touched on by another article earlier in the thread but the Israeli military is generally a secular force and the Israeli government is aligned more with religious authority, the policy of antagonization and aggression towards Palestine has been more in the governments camp than the military and there's more secular people in service than Orthodox so the schism exists to support a coup even if the willpower hasn't materialized that may well happen it wont anything in regards to palestinians
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:It was touched on by another article earlier in the thread but the Israeli military is generally a secular force and the Israeli government is aligned more with religious authority, the policy of antagonization and aggression towards Palestine has been more in the governments camp than the military and there's more secular people in service than Orthodox so the schism exists to support a coup even if the willpower hasn't materialized My understanding of Israeli politics was that everyone supported genociding the Palestinians, even the secular Israelis.
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Oct 9, 2023 16:21
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The IDF does not sound like ripe grounds for a leftist revolt
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In light of how quickly the extremely poor taste joke was hammered, I'd like to take a moment and thank Speng, Libster Shirt, and the rest for keeping this thread readable. You can't look at twitter without seeing a pile of bloody corpses and network news treats Gaza being carpet bombed as proportionate retaliation, so its nice to have somewhere that isnt horrifying to follow along with this madness Thanks for putting in effort
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Palestinian children? pregnant Palestinian women? disabled Palestinians? look I agree it's not good to kill those people. it's never good to kill anyone, but I draw the line at my pure white perfect beautiful blonde raver princess who got thrown to the rape-crazed dusky mohammedan hordes with crazed eyes and sweat slick skin muscles bulging and glistening in the im sorry what were we talking about?
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Yeah definitely not suggesting this war ends with a reformist coup, just that bibi probably wont last very long in power at this rate
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Oct 9, 2023 16:22
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PostNouveau posted:My understanding of Israeli politics was that everyone supported genociding the Palestinians, even the secular Israelis. They allowed their own plans to form a government fail and allow a nazi mobster back into power because they were too racist to work with the arab list.
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if theres a coup itll be to replace bibi with someone more hardline on extermination
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Paging Gradenko  anthropologists at work :“Predictably, the government of Israel, which adhered to the status quo and avoided any serious initiative to resolve the conflict with the Arab states, was supported by members of the business class who had begun to profit from investments in the security field and orders from the defence establishment. At the same time, there was also ‘scientific’ backing from a group of Israeli orientalists for the government’s policies. They constantly propagated the view, in all the communications media at their disposal, that ‘the Arabs’ (they usually used that term, ignoring the multiple shades of opinion within the Arab ranks, from the Jordanian Hussein to the Libyan Qaddafi) were striving for nothing but the destruction of Israel, for their hatred was as deep as the abyss. The conclusion that logically followed was that there was no chance whatsoever for a substantial agreement with the Arabs and thus no reason for any Israeli initiative to promote peace with the Arabs, the minimum demand of whom was the destruction of the State of the Jews. In their view, no solution to the conflict was in sight, and so Israel must reconcile itself to the conflict’s persistence for the long term. For that reason, nothing remained for Israel except to keep strengthening itself, which might hasten the day when the Arabs finally gave up all hope of realizing their goal. Accordingly, Israel should ensure that it had strategic security borders – that is, embrace a policy of annexation in order to create better conditions to repel the enemy in the next, inevitable war." “A special place in this group was held by General (Res.) Yehoshafat Harkabi, formerly the head of the Intelligence Branch in the General Staff, later a professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and beginning in August 1974 an advisor for strategic planning at the Defence Ministry. Due to the high office he had held in the past and because his views conformed to official policy, Harkabi’s words had special resonance and his writings were distributed by the Israeli hasbara institutions in Israel and abroad. The approach of the professor-general is essentially that of a psychologist, which takes into account concepts in the emotional realm, such as hatred, or motives laden with ideological or historical-philosophic associations – which, unlike a complex reality, are usually extremist and absolutist – instead of political and economic interests, etc. His approach was influenced by the work of the American orientalist Harold Glidden (as evident from an article that was once distributed by the Israeli public-diplomacy services), according to which the Arabs’ ‘tribal-Bedouin’ nature was at the heart of the Israeli–Arab conflict. That nature was said to engender a sense of ‘shame of defeat’ which prevented them from adopting a rational approach. A species of ‘cultural-psychological determinism’ can be discerned in Harkabi’s work, which implies that Arab culture is based on foundations that render coexistence with Israel impossible. From there, the path to dismissal of any Israeli political gestures towards the Arabs is a short one. Like various Israeli politicians, the general-professor was inclined to scorn moderate statements from Arab leaders in favour of the extremist stance he ascribed to them. In conducting policy based on General Harkabi’s outlook, Israel thus played down the need for serious diplomacy for peace and ignored Arab initiatives – above all from Jordan, but also from Egypt. Prof. Yehoshafat Harkabi provided the ‘scientific dimension’ for all who sought it in order to justify neglecting the stagnant political process.” “After the Arab world, led by Egypt, launched the October War, the primary objective of which was to shatter the status quo, Harkabi hastened to declare that the war proved that he was right, and added that ‘we have not missed any opportunity to end the conflict with the Arabs’. This was yet another example of the tactic of reiterating a theory (that ‘the Arabs are not ready for a peace settlement’) and making policy in conformity with it (the creation of facts in the Territories, reliance on the politics of force alone and avoiding peace initiatives) in order to avoid any other possible outcomes. When the adversary resorts to military means, you are then free to claim that your predictions were correct, without having to dwell on the possibility that you yourself contributed to the fulfilment of the prophecy. ” Not by Omission: The Case of the 1973 Arab–Israeli War
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:Palestinian children? but-but-but i have no agency at raving at the gaza strip border
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"where's the evidence that there have been any rapes, much less mass raping?" "ah er um er heh uh well I mean just look at them!! theyre ARABS!!!"
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:Yeah definitely not suggesting this war ends with a reformist coup, just that bibi probably wont last very long in power at this rate thats possible and even maybe probable but his replacement is another psycho
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Palladium posted:but-but-but i have no agency at raving at the gaza strip border it was a safe part of israel!!!!!!! this has RUINEd the Palestinian cause in the eyes of the rules-based global order!!!
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:"where's the evidence that there have been any rapes, much less mass raping?" Or "wtf kind of sicko like you wants to see videos of poor Israeli women getting raped? We trust women here"
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fizzy posted:Soon, maybe already by the time you read this, the quiet will be gone, the fighting will have started, in Gaza and among ourselves. But for a brief moment, at least, we can see these things. Imagine having the arrogance or blindness to write something like this. I hope one of the things people like this see is that by any moral standard, they deserve much worse than they will ever receive in this life. Maybe somewhere deep down, they see it.
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:"where's the evidence that there have been any rapes, much less mass raping?" didn't know biden was an arab
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https://twitter.com/nydems/status/1711174685990224061?s=20 wonton violence
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Spaced God posted:Or "wtf kind of sicko like you wants to see videos of poor Israeli women getting raped? We trust women here" in this house we 👏 trust 👏 women* *in this house we consider Palestinian women a type of dog, so
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The Top G posted:That’s in-line with accuracy stats from “special operators”. Even with training guns are really hard to shoot accurately in active threat situations. very few cops (maybe none?) should be entrusted with their use in public. Yeah they should only be trusted with muzzle-loading two-shot pistols.
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lobster shirt posted:yoav goofus Is he the one who treats enemy noncombatants with respect in accordance with international law? 
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Poppers posted:I wouldn’t kill anyone at a rave. Starting to think this forum doesn’t know the first thing about raves… I'd slay on the dance floor, but not literally
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Oct 9, 2023 16:30
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i cant support all this wonton violence
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HallelujahLee posted:i cant support all this wonton violence Nor can I. DTI.
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HallelujahLee posted:i cant support all this wonton violence Now sweet and sour apartheid? I'm down for that
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Razan al-Najjar was a young woman who was a medic during the Great March of Return. She was shot by Israeli border snipers while providing medical aid to a man who has been shot in the face by the IOF with a tear gas canister. The Guardian has some background on what medics did to identify themselves during that non-violent action. quote:Gaza’s medics have fine-tuned tactics on how to work in the line of fire without being shot by Israeli snipers. Obviously the IOF doesn't care about medics and targeted them anyway. The Gaza border area has been a killing ground since the Israelis put it up.
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