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Good news for Israel - Israel’s prime minister said his country will “win this war” against the Palestinian armed group Hamas. Netanyahu labels Hamas ‘savages’, says Israel ‘will win this war’ Israel’s prime minister has called Hamas “savages” in a video posted on X and said his country will “win this war” against the Palestinian armed group. Hamas has made a “mistake of historic proportions” by “slaughtering families in their homes, massacring hundreds of young people at an outdoor festival, kidnapping scores of women, children and elderly, even Holocaust survivors”, Netanyahu said. Israel will “exact a price” on Hamas “that will be remembered by them and Israel’s other enemies for decades to come”, he added. The Israeli leader also thanked Biden and the US Congress for their “unequivocal support”. https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1711465610507341996
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Abbas is 87, was elected President of the PA in 2005 and just stayed in that role, and basically functions as a contractor for Israel in the West Bank.
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Bad news for more than 900 people in Israel - More than 900 people have been killed in Israel since the Hamas attack on southern Israel began on Saturday https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-israel-orders-complete-siege-of-gaza-strip More than 900 people killed in Israel: Medical services 1h ago (23:57 GMT) More than 900 people have been killed in Israel since the Hamas attack on southern Israel began on Saturday, according to Israeli medical services. This includes more than 100 bodies found in Beeri after a hostage standoff between Hamas fighters and Israeli forces.
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holy poo poo was Leon always this much of a huge weirdo? I thought he was just one of the most tedious people on the forums, not whatever that was
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Cheen posted:I'm going to be going into the back half of this week/weekend talking to folks who will possibly want to talk about gaza and israel and I think framing around gaza being an open air prison is gonna be the best way to handle the topic, do folks have some good sources/reading on the explicit israel policy regarding gaza?
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Bad news for foreign nationals caught in the cross-fire - Dozens of foreigners have been killed, wounded or taken hostage during the surprise attack on Israel by the Palestinian group Hamas that has left more than 900 people dead, mostly Israelis. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-live-news-israel-orders-complete-siege-of-gaza-strip What to know about foreigners killed, abducted in Hamas attack 1h ago (23:56 GMT) Dozens of foreigners have been killed, wounded or taken hostage during the surprise attack on Israel by the Palestinian group Hamas that has left more than 900 people dead, mostly Israelis. Some of the foreigners have dual Israeli citizenship. Here is what we know so far about foreign nationals in the region: Thailand: 12 dead, 11 hostages US: 11 dead, others missing Nepal: 10 dead Argentina: 7 dead, 15 missing Ukraine: 2 dead France: 2 dead, 14 missing Russia: 1 dead, 4 missing UK: 1 dead, 1 missing Canada: 1 dead, 3 missing Cambodia: 1 dead Germany: several hostages Brazil: 3 missing Chile: 2 missing Italy: 2 missing Paraguay: 2 missing Peru: 2 missing Tanzania: 2 missing Mexico: 2 hostages Colombia: 2 hostages Philippines: 1 hostage, 6 missing Panama: 1 missing Ireland: 1 missing
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fizzy posted:Once, the Jewish people were stateless. I don't want to be "that guy", but until Bar Kokhba is denounced as a terrorist, I don't think the Jewish people deserve a seat at the table. They faced the natural consequences of their actions, as the Romans were just trying to secure the peace and safety of the residents of Syria Palaestina.
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burdt posted:RWN emergency episode part 2 finally some good loving news
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Frosted Flake posted:I don't even know how to deal with talking points like this youve gotta be loving kidding me lol
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Al! posted:four shades of grey for your map jesus wept All four shades mean "no Palestinians lived here", based on loving Ottoman land laws, apparently. Australia-Israel Jewish Affairs Council posted:
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Sure sounds like Bibi let this happen so he could do a genocide quicker
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Al! posted:idk how you'd classify carpet bombing civilians as a win. is the las vegas shooter the biggest winner you know? I prefer to remember him for his gambling
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Grem posted:It makes no sense. 100% of the countries we support are transactional, we give x to get y. Except Israel. We've proven we can install friendly Islamic leaders, what the gently caress is the purpose in supporting Israel now? I mean we sell em guns and they train our cops, it's not really costing us much. And really until relatively recently, if at all, public opinion hasn't really bees decidedly anti Israeli so there's not much electoral gain
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fizzy posted:[b]Bad news for Israeli reserve soldiers - idf startup guy
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:yeah man sometimes you realize your post sounds worse than you intended it to be so you go back and try to fix it upgrading "mild" to "moderate" when describing genocide definitely fixed it, good job
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Frosted Flake posted:I don't even know how to deal with talking points like this your a bitch and then hang up
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Frosted Flake posted:I don't even know how to deal with talking points like this That's government, not people.
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Frosted Flake posted:I don't even know how to deal with talking points like this okay let's give the land back to jordan and egypt and go from there
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fizzy posted:Bad news for Israeli Lieutenant Colonel Alim Abdallah - Israeli Lieutenant Colonel Alim Abdallah was killed in clashes near Israel’s border with Lebanon. is rank inflation a thing in the idf or is hamas just good and picking off the officers
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Centrist Committee posted:is rank inflation a thing in the idf or is hamas just good and picking off the officers well "somebody's nephew" is the highest rank in the idf after all
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A big flaming stink posted:holy poo poo was Leon always this much of a huge weirdo? I thought he was just one of the most tedious people on the forums, not whatever that was Yes. Yes he was. Always. He used to whiiiiine in the mod discord too.
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one thing that seems pretty clear to me is that the west had thought the "Palestinian Problem" was solved, that no further resistance was possible, and that they could be quietly shuffled into the dustbin of history. the lib reaction is one of betrayal, the Palestinians were breaking their social contract where they could be sympathetically cooed about but ultimately given up upon
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The Oldest Man posted:upgrading "mild" to "moderate" when describing genocide definitely fixed it, good job i think you misread the post or something? i was giving a range, as to reflect how wild the reporting is and how little information we have; there was a reason the high end of that range was "total sterilization of the gaza strip". what did you think I was saying?????
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A big flaming stink posted:holy poo poo was Leon always this much of a huge weirdo? I thought he was just one of the most tedious people on the forums, not whatever that was for someone who claims to care immensely about rape, he sure didn't mind cheering on a rapist for president
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Al! posted:four shades of grey for your map jesus wept the cartographic version of those crypto graphs with three y axes
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Majorian posted:Yes. looking through the old chat logs is very funny
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Al! posted:one thing that seems pretty clear to me is that the west had thought the "Palestinian Problem" was solved, that no further resistance was possible, and that they could be quietly shuffled into the dustbin of history. the lib reaction is one of betrayal, the Palestinians were breaking their social contract where they could be sympathetically cooed about but ultimately given up upon “The bigger, more profound ‘failure’, which the Agranat Commission did not investigate – to wit: to what extent were the policies of the government of Golda Meir, which had avoided any serious political initiative towards the Arab world to resolve the conflict in the Middle East, responsible for creating the situation that led to the war? How was it that real chances to reach a settlement with the Arab states (above all, Egypt and Jordan) had been squandered since 1967, due to unwillingness to pay the price for peace – the return of the Occupied Territories to their owners, even when there was a possibility of agreement on small territorial modifications (with Jordan)? Why did the Israeli leadership prefer and sanctify the status quo, which was intolerable to the Arab world, to the point that President Sadat was finally compelled to use force to end it? How was it that an atmosphere of national arrogance and contempt for the Arab peoples and their national aspirations prevailed in Israel, along with the belief that ‘time is on our side’ and that ‘the Arabs have absolutely no military option’ and so the existing situation would prevail for another 'ten years’ and even more, so that the only thing left for Israel to do, supposedly, was ‘activity in the Territories’? And, finally, how was it that all this ultimately contributed as well to the neglect of defence matters in the groundless belief that war was far off?” - Chomsky and Kapeliouk
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studio mujahideen posted:him doing his weird lying by omission bit really loving sucks when its justifying palestinian genocide its not a bit
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“The higher you climb, the harder you fall, says the English adage. And, indeed, on 6 October a serene and self-confident Israel tumbled from a mountain of illusions down to the ground of reality. The trauma was severe. Suddenly Israelis opened their eyes and discovered that dogmas, ‘sacred cows’ and other ‘unshakeable truths’ had been smashed on the rocks of reality. The Yom Kippur War could also be called the ‘War of Disillusionment’. One of the reasons for the gloom that afflicted Israelis after the war was the shattering of myths to which they had become enslaved. It became clear that the characteristic that Israelis had attributed to the Arabs – self-delusion – had struck deep roots within the Israelis themselves. Although the myths were destroyed, they were not replaced by any changes in the approach to Israel–Arab relations. That would require self-criticism and a radical change in the composition of the leadership and its ideology, which were not quick to come, despite the transformations that occurred after the war.” Not by Omission: The Case of the 1973 Arab–Israeli War Amnon Kapeliouk
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sleep with the vicious posted:Hamas are just so drat crazy, its like, what do they even want??? to rape and murder, obviously
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:i think you misread the post or something? Sounds like you're using the words "mild" or "moderate" terror to describe the Israeli defense minister calling the Palestinians animals, officially placing Gaza under siege, and cutting off food, fuel, electricity, and potable water.
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'The status quo will persist in the region for as long as we want it to’ "First and foremost among the myths that crumbled to their foundations in the Yom Kippur War was the ‘eternal’ status quo, which was supposedly contingent on nothing but Israel’s will. The current situation will stay the way it is – repeated Israel’s political and military leaders between the two wars – even for twenty or thirty years, until the Arabs agree to convert it into a ‘real peace’ with Israel, in which normal relations would be established between the Arab states and Israel and extensive territorial changes made in Israel’s favour. A year after the war, former foreign minister Abba Eban would admit that ‘there was agreement within the political echelon: we will remain in the Territories and that is what will force the Arabs to change their position’. The illusion of a never-ending status quo was facilitated by the fact that although after the 1948 war the Arabs did not immediately reconcile themselves to Israel’s new borders and demanded a return to the Partition borders, after the 1967 war they forgot the Partition borders and demanded that Israel return to the armistice lines, that is, the lines of 4 June 1967. Many claimed, therefore, that just as the Arab states had eventually ‘swallowed’ the status quo of 1948, the same thing would happen this time: lacking any military option, the Arab states and the residents of the Occupied Territories would reconcile themselves to the new status quo. Acceptance would come, they said – even if it took a long time. However, the mistake of the partisans of the status quo was that they had made a mechanical comparison and failed to take account of the enormous changes that had occurred in the Arab world and in the international balance of power since 1948 and their dynamic. They drew conclusions for the present day based on a period in which the Arab world was weak and fragmented and the international balance of power was against it (it was a rare moment of pro-Israel agreement between the United States and the Soviet Union). Eventually developments proved that the Arab world as well as the residents of the Occupied Territories rejected the status quo, which evaporated with the roar of the cannons on 6 October.” “It also became clear that, not only did the status quo based on ‘ideal security borders’ not prevent war, but it had served as a motivation for war and the rallying of a huge national effort, above all in Egypt, in order to break the status quo and regain the Occupied Territories. The Israeli leadership habitually scoffed at the widespread fear of Israeli expansionism in the Arab countries, a fear that the Six-Day War enhanced. That scorn strengthened the illusion that the Arabs would reconcile themselves to the new status quo. The Arabs, on the other hand, now came to realize that despite the declarations of Israel’s leaders that the Jewish state had no aspirations for territorial expansion, when the opportunity presented itself to expand their borders, they would exploit it by building settlements in the Occupied Territories with the goal of later annexing them officially.” “The myth of the eternal status quo was also harmful in that it prevented Israel from presenting serious proposals, plans and initiatives for peace with the neighbouring states, for the status quo and the absence of political initiatives are two sides of the same political coin. Indeed, there may be cases when the status quo is desirable, if it is directed towards a defined, narrow and time-limited objective; but that is not the case when it comes to ‘stopping the hands of the clock’ by misunderstanding the political situation, as was the case here.” “The faith in the idol of the status quo could not exist without other myths, such as the belief that the Arabs understand only the language of force, or that ‘time is on our side’ and that the 1967 ceasefire borders are second to none as a deterrent factor preventing war.” 
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studio mujahideen posted:him doing his weird lying by omission bit really loving sucks when its justifying palestinian genocide im guessing it's his whole personality. he's comparing hamas to the nazis now
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Scarabrae posted:Sure sounds like Bibi let this happen so he could do a genocide quicker
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