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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

TheBlackVegetable posted:

But only because they had the guts to kill him off

Well you say that, but then they really shortly after they brought him back, just to check how audiences would take it I guess, as I assume that wasn't widely well received as they haven't tried again since then. :shrug:

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May 16, 2009

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dr_rat posted:

Well you say that, but then they really shortly after they brought him back, just to check how audiences would take it I guess, as I assume that wasn't widely well received as they haven't tried again since then. :shrug:

I hate it when they end on an obvious sequel hook and then just launch endless spinoffs.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

IshmaelZarkov posted:

He still is, but he used to be as well.

(I haven't seen Avat2r, no idea if it's a piece of poo poo or not)

It's fine. It's not perfect but it's gorgeous and does what it's trying to do pretty well

Lots of people don't like it because it's not doing what they wish it was trying to do (some are just mad that he blue cat people arouse them)

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Jun 7, 2007

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the holy poopacy posted:

I hate it when they end on an obvious sequel hook and then just launch endless spinoffs.

My problem was the first third was Rashomon, most of the rest was mostly voiceover narration (c'mon, show, don't tell), but then you get the David Lynch-directed acid trip to finish the whole thing off, which frankly fit in a different film.

At least there was a theme to this movie. I hear the prequel is just a bunch of scenes thrown together with no rhyme or reason.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

maybealabia posted:

It's fine. It's not perfect but it's gorgeous and does what it's trying to do pretty well

Lots of people don't like it because it's not doing what they wish it was trying to do (some are just mad that he blue cat people arouse them)

I might be the only person who doesn't find the blue cat people attractive. They just look so CGI and weird.


My mom is rewatching Grey's Anatomy. Every episode is one huge IIMM. The current episode has a person with a DNR but because she works at the hospital and her spouse is a surgeon and he starts screaming for them to save her, the doctors decide gently caress her DNR, we're gonna save her!

That poo poo terrifies me far more than the organ donor conspiracy that the hospital will let you die to harvest your organs.

Of course because it's Grey's Anatomy, she doesn't have any complications and everything works out great!

It's also super weird watching the "rah rah go military!" poo poo when it's about Afghanistan and how brave it is to serve your country because you are protecting our freedoms!

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?

maybealabia posted:

It's fine. It's not perfect but it's gorgeous and does what it's trying to do pretty well

Lots of people don't like it because it's not doing what they wish it was trying to do (some are just mad that he blue cat people arouse them)

I still need to see it but that's basically what I thought about the first one. It's just really hard to follow Aliens, T2, and Titanic is what I mean.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Cowslips Warren posted:

I might be the only person who doesn't find the blue cat people attractive. They just look so CGI and weird.


My mom is rewatching Grey's Anatomy. Every episode is one huge IIMM. The current episode has a person with a DNR but because she works at the hospital and her spouse is a surgeon and he starts screaming for them to save her, the doctors decide gently caress her DNR, we're gonna save her!

That poo poo terrifies me far more than the organ donor conspiracy that the hospital will let you die to harvest your organs.

Of course because it's Grey's Anatomy, she doesn't have any complications and everything works out great!

It's also super weird watching the "rah rah go military!" poo poo when it's about Afghanistan and how brave it is to serve your country because you are protecting our freedoms!

My partner is working through the show again too and is up to season 7 I believe. I feel your pain

I was really hoping she would hold off watching it until her maternity leave but nope, full steam ahead now

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Cowslips Warren posted:

The current episode has a person with a DNR but because she works at the hospital and her spouse is a surgeon and he starts screaming for them to save her, the doctors decide gently caress her DNR, we're gonna save her!

This is basically how it works.

A DNR can be immediately revoked by the patient or, if they can't communicate, by their legal guardian, medical POA, qualified relative, etc.

At least, that's the case where I work, not sure about other areas.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Khizan posted:

This is basically how it works.

A DNR can be immediately revoked by the patient or, if they can't communicate, by their legal guardian, medical POA, qualified relative, etc.

At least, that's the case where I work, not sure about other areas.

If your in a position you need to be resuscitated are you like by definition in a condition you can't communicate?

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

dr_rat posted:

If your in a position you need to be resuscitated are you like by definition in a condition you can't communicate?

Maybe someone has a ouija board.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.
Surely you mean the greatest book sequel of all time, the New Testament?

Speaking of spliced-in fake endings, a long time ago (VHS times) we used to have a weekly movie nights with my buddies. At a certain point we started teasing two of our friends about how good the ending of Casino was, without spoiling it for them; but every week, the guy who had the tape "forgot" to bring it over.

After a months or so, the hype was palpable and Casino was finally available. But, just before the plot twist at the end, the movie cuts to some of us doing lovely re-enactments of a bunch of famous scenes from other movies - except the punch lines are now all about how good the ending of Casino is.

The first one was one of us sitting under a running shower, holding a wooden duck and doing Rutger Hauer's "I've seen things" piece from Blade Runner, but recovering after "...time to die" with a peppy "oh, and I've also seen the ending of Casino!", smash cut to the next bit.

Why yes, we were in college at the time, why do you ask?

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

Khizan posted:

This is basically how it works.

A DNR can be immediately revoked by the patient or, if they can't communicate, by their legal guardian, medical POA, qualified relative, etc.

At least, that's the case where I work, not sure about other areas.
Yeah, everywhere I have ever been in the US is like this. It has nothing to do with her spouse being on the surgical staff, that is just basic law.

If you want to have a DNR ordered, you need to trust your next of kin/mPOA to uphold it as well.

You might, might have someone willing to push back against a revocation if the provider had had a relatively long relationship with the patient and had been the one to have a long decision with the patient establishing that DNR decision and the clinical situation was one directly discussed and the immediate medical decision maker was not particularly close to the patient and even then it would probably wouldn't be the most aggressive pushback. The law as interpreted just doesn't support that.

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That Italian Guy posted:

Surely you mean the greatest book sequel of all time, the New Testament?

Speaking of spliced-in fake endings, a long time ago (VHS times) we used to have a weekly movie nights with my buddies. At a certain point we started teasing two of our friends about how good the ending of Casino was, without spoiling it for them; but every week, the guy who had the tape "forgot" to bring it over.

After a months or so, the hype was palpable and Casino was finally available. But, just before the plot twist at the end, the movie cuts to some of us doing lovely re-enactments of a bunch of famous scenes from other movies - except the punch lines are now all about how good the ending of Casino is.

The first one was one of us sitting under a running shower, holding a wooden duck and doing Rutger Hauer's "I've seen things" piece from Blade Runner, but recovering after "...time to die" with a peppy "oh, and I've also seen the ending of Casino!", smash cut to the next bit.

Why yes, we were in college at the time, why do you ask?

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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Saw an ad for the Lego version of The Razor Crest from The Mandalorian and it just reminded me of how stupid the decision was to blow it up on the show. Especially since they replaced it with the much worse Naboo Starfighter which looks super uncomfortable to actually travel in.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

muscles like this! posted:

Saw an ad for the Lego version of The Razor Crest from The Mandalorian and it just reminded me of how stupid the decision was to blow it up on the show. Especially since they replaced it with the much worse Naboo Starfighter which looks super uncomfortable to actually travel in.

Both ships are cool but yeah the Razorcrest was special

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Apr 28, 2009

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The Razorcrest was an original design and made sense as a utilitarian craft.

The new retrofitted Naboo fighter reminds people of the Prequels, which is never a good idea.

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo
Actually the prequels are thought of pretty positively nowadays overall

The clone wars series did a lot to rehabilitate them plus it's just generational.

Crowetron
Apr 29, 2009

I can't believe a show about guy who looks like a Boba Fett and a guy who looks like Yoda would stoop so low as to remind people of something from the movies.

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Apr 28, 2009

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maybealabia posted:

Actually the prequels are thought of pretty positively nowadays overall

The clone wars series did a lot to rehabilitate them plus it's just generational.

Yeah people were like "These Star Wars movies couldn't possibly get worse…"

Then we got the sequel trilogy.

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Oct 4, 2008

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muscles like this! posted:

Saw an ad for the Lego version of The Razor Crest from The Mandalorian and it just reminded me of how stupid the decision was to blow it up on the show. Especially since they replaced it with the much worse Naboo Starfighter which looks super uncomfortable to actually travel in.

You gotta destroy the old ships so you can sell collectors new toy ships.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
My favorite thing about that was they blew it up right after this big toy version cleared funding and the payments had gone through.

I think it was somewhere between 350-500 bucks for it. Then poof :allears:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The sequels desperately tried to avoid reminding anyone of the prequels, to their great detriment and at exactly the wrong time.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

should have gone in on the darth jar jar for the last movie, if nothing matters anyway at least go out with something memorable

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Tunicate posted:

should have gone in on the darth jar jar for the last movie, if nothing matters anyway at least go out with something memorable

Sheev is memorable! Somehow, Sheev has returned!!

Android Apocalypse
Apr 28, 2009

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Disney spoiling that Palpatine was the main baddie in The Rise of Skywalker through Fortnite was definitely… a choice.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Android Apocalypse posted:

Disney spoiling that Palpatine was the main baddie in The Rise of Skywalker through Fortnite was definitely… a choice.

It's better than that. That wasn't spoiling, that was a canon introduction. That's the message they're talking about in the movie, it assumes you saw the Fortnite thing.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Didn't ever star wars movie have an opening crawl that talked about things that have already happened but you don't see?

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Kinda? It gives a general recap of what's happened and what's going on right up to when the crawl ends.

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope posted:

It is a period of civil war.

Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.

During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.

Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy....

Palpatine's reveal via Fortnite feels different because it's from a video game and it happened just before the movie. Call me :corsair: but I treated the movies as canon and all other stuff as supplementary. I don't mind movies going back to fill in gaps, like Rogue One showing the escape of the blockade runner just before it leads into Star Wars or even Solo: A Star Wars Story showing the Kessel Run.

Cross-continuity stuff is straight out of old comic book editorial poo poo (*see X-Men #___) and if you haven't consumed the media beforehand you could be lost. I think this is what's ailing the Disney properties right now: so much bloat with the inclusion of the tv shows you feel left out. Right now I've not bothered starting Ashoka because from my other friends saying that it's more or less season 5 of Star Wars: Rebels I already feel behind the curve.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Android Apocalypse posted:

Kinda? It gives a general recap of what's happened and what's going on right up to when the crawl ends.

Palpatine's reveal via Fortnite feels different because it's from a video game and it happened just before the movie. Call me :corsair: but I treated the movies as canon and all other stuff as supplementary. I don't mind movies going back to fill in gaps, like Rogue One showing the escape of the blockade runner just before it leads into Star Wars or even Solo: A Star Wars Story showing the Kessel Run.

Cross-continuity stuff is straight out of old comic book editorial poo poo (*see X-Men #___) and if you haven't consumed the media beforehand you could be lost. I think this is what's ailing the Disney properties right now: so much bloat with the inclusion of the tv shows you feel left out. Right now I've not bothered starting Ashoka because from my other friends saying that it's more or less season 5 of Star Wars: Rebels I already feel behind the curve.

I know it's from a prequel but im pretty sure episode 3 referenced the clone wars cartoons that were on a channel my backwoods small Ohio town didn't get

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Len posted:

I know it's from a prequel but im pretty sure episode 3 referenced the clone wars cartoons that were on a channel my backwoods small Ohio town didn't get

I don't know if it referred to it explicitly, but I do remember that the explanation for Grevious's constant hacking and coughing is because Windu hosed up his lungs (which was shown in the cartoon), just not said in the movie.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Randalor posted:

I don't know if it referred to it explicitly, but I do remember that the explanation for Grevious's constant hacking and coughing is because Windu hosed up his lungs (which was shown in the cartoon), just not said in the movie.

But also he's only introduced in 3, so it's not like you go from seeing him fine to that.

If you don't know why, he's just some cyborg with a cough for some reason. Star Wars is full of weird quirks so it doesn't stand out.

Len posted:

I know it's from a prequel but im pretty sure episode 3 referenced the clone wars cartoons that were on a channel my backwoods small Ohio town didn't get

The cartoon came out 3 years after the movie.

Edit: Actually I guess the Tartakovsky one was in continuity at the time. It's not now though.

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Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



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muscles like this! posted:

Saw an ad for the Lego version of The Razor Crest from The Mandalorian and it just reminded me of how stupid the decision was to blow it up on the show. Especially since they replaced it with the much worse Naboo Starfighter which looks super uncomfortable to actually travel in.

If anything, they should have started with the sports car and moved to the minivan as Mando accepted his role as a father.

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
There was a coughing robot?

maybeadracula
Sep 9, 2022

by sebmojo

Pope Corky the IX posted:

There was a coughing robot?

Cyborg

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
There was a cyborg robot?

Roblo
Dec 10, 2007

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Pope Corky the IX posted:

There was a coughing robot?

Cyborg. He had lungs. Was an alien once or something.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Pope Corky the IX posted:

There was a coughing robot?

Yeah Jesse and James had it in A New Hope

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Roblo posted:

Cyborg. He had lungs. Was an alien once or something.

"Well...I COULD cover all my organs in metal, maybe even implement some of that Droid-Deka shield technology...that seems drat near impervious, and as a General, surely I'd qualify for that upgrade to my cyborg body.

OR...leave my organs totally exposed cause it looks kinda cool."

Pope Corky the IX
Dec 18, 2006

What are you looking at?
Seems like a bad idea to give a robot lungs.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

DrBouvenstein posted:

"Well...I COULD cover all my organs in metal, maybe even implement some of that Droid-Deka shield technology...that seems drat near impervious, and as a General, surely I'd qualify for that upgrade to my cyborg body.

OR...leave my organs totally exposed cause it looks kinda cool."

Concealing them doesn't help being crushed, might as well let those puppies breathe.

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