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Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Just imagine all the house building materials you could get off eBay with 1.6 billion!

[edit] The British Rail Class 157 was the designation for a range of Diesel multiple unit trains of the Sprinter family.

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Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

If Bibby cost 1.6bn, just for reference this loving thing costs 7.6bn.


Tories just begging for the swift slot of the Guillotine at this point. At least 90% of that cost is corruption.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Oct 10, 2023

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Tory government contracts: one of the few situations in which 'mates rates' are substantially higher.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Diet Crack posted:

If Bibby cost 1.6bn, just for reference this loving thing costs 7.6bn.


Tories just begging for the swift slot of the Guillotine at this point. At least 90% of that cost is corruption.

It was £7.6bn for two carriers, so designing, building, fitting out and commissioning one 65,000 ton supercarrier with a 30-year service life apparently costs 'only' twice as much as renting a 30-year old static barge with a portakabin on top of it for 18 months.

"Outsourcing to the private sector is the most efficient allocation and use of resources...etc."

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

https://twitter.com/nowthenmag/status/1711322491224797440

lmao cool stuff good country

(for non-Twitter-havers: 261-year waiting list for Sheffield adults seeking diagnostic assessment for ADHD)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

BalloonFish posted:

It was £7.6bn for two carriers, so designing, building, fitting out and commissioning one 65,000 ton supercarrier with a 30-year service life apparently costs 'only' twice as much as renting a 30-year old static barge with a portakabin on top of it for 18 months.

"Outsourcing to the private sector is the most efficient allocation and use of resources...etc."
I wonder how many Type 26 frigates could they build in Belfast, train and crew from red wall towns, and send around the world for a decade doing maritime security, counter-piracy, or humanitarian and disaster relief operations for the cost of one floating stagnant water tank.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Is it really too much to ask them to be patient?

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
welp


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/10/people-supporting-hamas-in-uk-will-be-held-to-account-says-rishi-sunak

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/ClareHymer/status/1711774532569121235

:(

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001


Ah but waving the Israeli one, as is concurrently happening in Golders Green and surrounds, is not. gently caress off Braverman I hope you kick it.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

I wonder how many Type 26 frigates could they build in Belfast, train and crew from red wall towns, and send around the world for a decade doing maritime security, counter-piracy, or humanitarian and disaster relief operations for the cost of one floating stagnant water tank.

I totally get your essential point about that idea having much more economic, social, national and human value than the HMS Stagnant Water Tank, but for £1.6bn you're looking at building only one T26 and then its running costs for about 20 years.

But a frigate is fairly significang overkill for security and humanitarian work. £1.6bn would let you build a flotilla of half a dozen corvettes, a couple of support/hospital RFA ships and a new pair of oceonography/hydrographical survey ships, with enough left over to crew and run them for a decade.

Build them at Harland & Wolff and Cammell Laird and that would do far more for the economies of Northern Ireland and the Wirral than the Bibby Stockholm. Send them out to the areas of the world most at risk from storms, floods, fires, to patrol the maritime migrant routes and you'd do far more good for both humanity and Global Britain's reputation than a Carrier Strike Group.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I like this still better

https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1711797496412873169

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 10, 2023

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



Just trying to make an entire people illegal.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Eh he mostly just got on with it and carried on after a few crap jokes, it'll probably end up playing quite well for him

Should have been something harder to ignore and brush off. Even the TM p45 was better than glitter

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Extremely insane sitting in crumbling, lovely NI - part of the crumbling, lovely UK and hearing the BBC tell us about the Republics new 100billion Euro Sovereign wealth fund. Tax revenue that will actually be invested to help the man in the street.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Dead Goon posted:

Just imagine all the house building materials you could get off eBay with 1.6 billion!

[edit] The British Rail Class 157 was the designation for a range of Diesel multiple unit trains of the Sprinter family.

Are you saying that the government wouldn't be able to build housing for at least 506 people for 1.6 billion? Again that's about £3m per person. And the houses would stay around for longer than 18 months, hopefully.

Sure it won't solve the housing crisis in one go, but also lol, lmao.

e: Looking around the average cost of a detached family house, newly built in 2023, is about £500k.

But in reality that would of course be missing the point of enriching the right people.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 10, 2023

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Private Speech posted:

Are you saying that the government wouldn't be able to build housing for at least 506 people for 1.6 billion? Again that's about £3m per person. And the houses would stay around for longer than 18 months, hopefully.

Sure it won't solve the housing crisis in one go, but also lol, lmao.

No he's taking the piss out of me.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Private Speech posted:

Are you saying that the government wouldn't be able to build housing for at least 506 people for 1.6 billion? Again that's about £3m per person. And the houses would stay around for longer than 18 months, hopefully.

Sure it won't solve the housing crisis in one go, but also lol, lmao.

e: Looking around the average cost of a detached family house, newly built in 2023, is about £500k.

But in reality that would of course be missing the point of enriching the right people.

These kinda calculations get really depressing when you apply them to things like the cost of warfare. Not to be all lib-brained "this is like 1984!" but still, Orwell did write about how every bomb represents human labour that was used to destroy instead of create.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I haven't done any kind of research but I imagine you could rent every 5 star ocean cruise liner on the planet for the next year for 1.6 billion quid.

I can't find it now, but someone did the maths and booking the luxury-tier Disney cruise experience for 500 people for a year worked out considerably cheaper.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Clyde Radcliffe posted:

I can't find it now, but someone did the maths and booking the luxury-tier Disney cruise experience for 500 people for a year worked out considerably cheaper.

Not completely sure I think that was back when the full costs were thought to be substantially lower too, sticker price and all that.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
It seems the average cost of a 7-night Disney cruise is about £2500. At that price, for the supposed cost of the Bibby Stockholm, you could send over 24,000 people for six months (the length of time 2/3rds of the people on the asylum case backlog have been waiting) each on a Disney cruise.

Unfortunately there are five times that number of people on the backlog who have been waiting for at least six months.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Lol watching the clip of the glittery Starman - he doesn't pull his hand away at any point, he just sorta stands there looking like a mildly unhappy NPC who might clip through the podium at any moment

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Keir Starmer confirmed stuck in mid-90s wrestling game animation.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Monica Bellucci
Dec 14, 2022

Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man, wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Can you boil mince on Mars?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


THE WET EGGS HAVE KICKED IN


VICTORIA

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
if i was a politician i would simply go out on stage every time already covered in glitter, porridge, orange dust, dog poo poo, whatever else my team come up with

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

is that your excuse for your posts

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



No doubt this will get just as much attention as Luciana Berger's Police Escort

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Tesseraction posted:

is that your excuse for your posts

**stands completely stationary unable to post**

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

NotJustANumber99 posted:

if i was a politician i would simply go out on stage every time already covered in glitter, porridge, orange dust, dog poo poo, whatever else my team come up with
Smearing yourself with dogshit so your opponents don't is a pretty good summary of Starmer's approach.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

THE WET EGGS HAVE KICKED IN


VICTORIA
We were somewhere around Bromley, on the edge of the desert, when the uggs began to take hold.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

she didn't believe him when he said he puts bovril in his coffee

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

sebzilla posted:

No doubt this will get just as much attention as Luciana Berger's Police Escort

But she deserves it

Monica Bellucci
Dec 14, 2022

Has she tried being a presenter on Countdown?

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

In basically any other organisation, Apsana Begum would have a cast-iron case of religious discrimination against Labour extending waaaay before this conference.
The way she's been treated is a loving disgrace.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

kingturnip posted:

In basically any other organisation, Apsana Begum would have a cast-iron case of religious discrimination against Labour extending waaaay before this conference.
The way she's been treated is a loving disgrace.

I totally agree and am not starting poo poo. But I guess thats what luciana burger also said

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pretty sure she just said "jambly bambly" and the rest of the news cycle instantly crystalised.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001


https://twitter.com/stuwyatt/status/1711792651836510376

It's been a fun productive evening. A load of the satirical twitter troll people that you've been posting and laughing at for ages are now talking amongst themselves off twitter, and I think only good things can come out of the newly formed El Borto Appreciation Society. Watch this space....

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 10, 2023

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Are you actually collaborating behind the scenes? If so that'll be a boon to the true spirit of the shitpost left.

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