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ilitarist posted:you probably wouldn't like if you don't like mission trees and want a more freeform strategic experience. Idk, that describes me well and i still have a ton of fun with Anbennar. I once played a game as Venail where my one objective was to move to the New World and conquer a perfectly round empire. You can always ignore the Mission Trees and do whatever you want.
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ok fellas which one of you is going to buy the star trek game
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VostokProgram posted:ok fellas which one of you is going to buy the star trek game I did. I don't have a moment to sit down with it right now, but the first thing that struck me was how it mostly seemed to be Stellaris with things taken out, more than added. Maybe the new stuff just isn't anywhere that obvious.
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VostokProgram posted:ok fellas which one of you is going to buy the star trek game There's a thread for it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4042510
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skipThings posted:Correct me if I am wrong here, but aren't the mission trees more a thing made for the AI to have any general idea of what it is supposed to be doing instead of just randomly bumbling about? They've always had the ability to give the AI goals/interests without a player facing system, though I suspect once mission trees were added it simplified it a lot and it built into the mission tree logic is code that tells the AI how to follow them.
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I was disappointed to see today that Harebrained Schemes' "Lamplighters League", published by Paradox, has pretty much bombed. Disappointed because the HBS folks seem cool and had made a good game in Battletech. I'm not surprised about Lamplighters League though, it never looked good, compelling, or like it did anything new or interesting. And to me the name sounds bad, and I feel like a bad name is a bad start for a game. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I was disappointed to see today that Harebrained Schemes' "Lamplighters League", published by Paradox, has pretty much bombed. I really liked the Shadowrun games, and I thought Lamplighter looked fun, but it's not a game I would ever pay $50 for. I look forward to testing it when it hits $20 or under.
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I don't get how Paradox combines their fame of a publisher who eventually fixes their games with expectations for release sales. I really liked Shadowrun games. I don't know a lot about Battletech but I like XCOM clones so eventually I bought the complete edition. Still haven't launched it but PDX got my money. I have little doubt eventually PDX would have gotten my money for Lamplight League if it's decent and eventually there's complete edition. Oh well.
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vanity slug posted:Is it better or worse than Empire of Sin? Oh much much better. I think it runs into the same core problem Battletech (and to a lesser degree the Shadowrun series, but those are propelled by story) has but much sooner - the core tactical gameplay is something that initially looks really interesting, but rapidly runs out of things to show you that actually shake up how you play the game. The consequence is that when you are 4-5 missions in it's already starting to feel a bit samey. e: I have *checks notes* 403 hours in Battletech. I think it works because missions are short, there is an engaging visceral element to watching mechs shoot and punch each other, and while it does get a bit samey, the core tactical puzzle of where to move and how much to shoot is still fundamentally interesting. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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lobsterminator posted:I really liked the Shadowrun games, and I thought Lamplighter looked fun, but it's not a game I would ever pay $50 for. I look forward to testing it when it hits $20 or under. Same. Onto the wishlist you go lamplighters.
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CK3 feels like it's gone from a grand strategy game that wasn't afraid or opposed to locking players out of events or mechanics in order to offer unique experiences specific to different regions, religions, and cultures. This meant I played it a lot to see what it was like to be Muslim ( my first time ) and even eventually 200 hours in after nomads and pagans and tribes oh my I even caved and played a Catholic ruler. It was something new and different each time, so I kept coming back. Now, unlike CK2, the game feels much more roleplaying driven and appealing to a lot of the younger gamers/roleplayers I hate to call the "streamer crowd" but will for shorthand. They want to play their character, and often view being locked out of some decisions as a negative ( because if you're playing to roleplay a dude, you're dude has less agency ). Which, once they started opening up "people are only semi-hateful against strange foreigners" in start-up was enough for me in CK2. But ultimately it just feels like many tabletop game lines I love, going in a different direction more in line with popular tastes/trends. Whiiiiich isn't bad, per say, but it means for me CK3 is an impressively streamlined game that isn't really trying to be a sequel to the game I want, while still offering more or less a lot of the surface or skeleton features of the game before it. I predict it was development crunch and other reasons, but Victoria 2 having jack unique events or decisions for most nations at launch mirrors this design philosophy. You don't want to wave the "that could never happen stick" by cutting off options or making ridiculous feats require ridiculous challenge.
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Old Doggy Bastard posted:I predict it was development crunch and other reasons, but Victoria 2 having jack unique events or decisions for most nations at launch mirrors this design philosophy. You don't want to wave the "that could never happen stick" by cutting off options or making ridiculous feats require ridiculous challenge. With the exception of the HoI series Paradox games don't have a meaningful amount of nation specific content when they come out, it's all been added in later patches, V3 isn't unusual in this respect (although it was even more threadbare than I was expecting)
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Victoria 3 had plenty of unique things on release, but outside of political landscape the systems didn't make countries feel different enough. Change to local pricing will probably add more diversity to the game than bunch of events.
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Yeah didn't they say it actually had the most events of any of their launches? Although I recall a similar statement about Imperator. I dunno what's rose tinted glasses and what's Paradox putting events in the wrong places but something doesn't line up.
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I can see the most events being accurate, but the events are universal to every country.
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I mean I feel like # of events it the sorta thing that should be easily independently verifiable not that I care to do so. But I sorta doubt they'd outright lie
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When the game tends to nudge things towards real-world history, that's where the fun of breaking away from the path happens. Vic2 was obviously flawed but it actually benefited from having fairly railroaded historical events IMO. As the player, you were always maneuvering around a certain set of likely outcomes like German/Italian unification, Chinese and Ottoman decline, the rise of Japan, etc etc. V3, on the other hand, feels like a game about the Industrial Age, but not like a game about the 19th century. I think that's ultimately why I bounced off it. If it was a little more on rails it's be a better game.
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Guildencrantz posted:When the game tends to nudge things towards real-world history, that's where the fun of breaking away from the path happens. Honestly I feel like HoI4 has the best approach to this, where you have a "historical mode" setting that forces the AI nations to attempt to follow the historical path they did in the real world (without being so deterministic as to always have the same winners), and then later patching in nation-specific settings where you can set specific alt-history paths for them to follow or just let them pick totally randomly. It's probably something that works better in the short timescale of WW2 though compared to Victoria or especially EU/CK which cover several centuries of history.
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I think the only thing I think is an actual problem wrt historical events in v3 is it really needs a great war system for a final boss. The rest of it feels less like a design problem and more like they're still working on getting the core mechanics working
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there's definitely some a decent number of country-specific events in Vicky 3, but you don't know about them unless you play that specific country, and most of them are just penalty events for example, China gets negative events reflecting opium addictions and stopping it will likely trigger the Opium Wars. and it also has at least one scripted rebellion that triggers if certain conditions are met. which means that while Chinese decline isn't guaranteed, it's certainly likely personally i prefer the less-railroaded differences, like the significant differences in countries' starting economic and political situations, which matter far more than the start differences in CK and EU tend to. or how interest groups' preferences will vary from country to country, though there's not really enough of that yet i'm a bit sour right now, though, because I started an Egypt game yesterday without realizing that it springs a rather nasty scripted war on you a few years in, and takes away most of your good provinces if you lose. that's not really the kind of railroads I'm playing Vicky for
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Cool music guy will be doing other stuff now. https://twitter.com/composerandreas/status/1714287168900972545
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Noooo. Dude is one of the greats. I know he’s not responsible for the entire Stellaris soundtrack, just a lot of it, but it’s maybe my favorite game soundtrack ever.
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Sure hope they keep needing him, the soundtrack for HoI4 is amazing
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Carver posted:Cool music guy will be doing other stuff now. End of an era, dude is really one of the unsung greats imo.
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From the Lamplighters League thread, Paradox and Harebrained Schemes are parting ways. https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/...w-opportunities
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Popete posted:From the Lamplighters League thread, Paradox and Harebrained Schemes are parting ways.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Whelp, no Battletech sequel then. Boo. I suspect we might get one sooner after this if HBS joins up with Microsoft. Supposedly the big barrier to PDX greenlighting a new one was MS holding the video game rights. I'm not coping, i swear.
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I mean we knew from earlier in the week that HBS basically shuttered in June. They might keep going, or Jordan and Mitch might appear under a new banner. The good outcome is that they make a pitch to Microsoft for office space and ~40 production staff (you probably only need about that if you are a Microsoft subsidiary and can use their corporate support) and the rights to make Battletech 2: Battletech harder. Jordan and Mitch seem like guys who like running their own company though and might just not want the chains that come with bending the knee to Microsoft, particularly where they are probably at the 'do what the gently caress you want' point of their careers.
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Carver posted:Cool music guy will be doing other stuff now. That man's music won me the moment I booted up HoI2 and was treated with that game's Overture. Such a perfect tone setter when you are reading the blurbs setting up the historical situation in 1936 and deciding what country you want to play as. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsOasp0LAo
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Hell the music is a big part of why I prefer ck2 to ck3. From the moment of starting the game, that soundtrack is absolutely insane. Nothing in CK3 has that level of just sheer presence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG5ejbouXBc
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So they literally just finished the earn out period lol.quote:STOCKHOLM and SEATTLE - June 5, 2018 - Paradox Interactive, a global publisher and developer of interactive entertainment, today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire 100% of the shares in Harebrained Holdings Inc, sole owner of Harebrained Schemes, LLC, from Harebrained Bag of Holding Inc. Paradox pays a fixed purchase price of US$7,500,000 at the time of acquisition plus an additional purchase price corresponding to 25% of the acquired business’ earnings before publishing costs over the next 5 years to the extent such earnings exceed the fixed purchase price. The deal is expected to close by Thursday, June 7, 2018.
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Alchenar posted:I mean we knew from earlier in the week that HBS basically shuttered in June. They might keep going, or Jordan and Mitch might appear under a new banner. V for Vegas posted:So they literally just finished the earn out period lol.
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Whoever owned Harebrained Inc. got a huge payday (which hopefully trickles down to the employees but who knows), Paradox probably took a smallish hit financially, the studio still exists as before but it's big IPs are now owned by Paradox so they'll be under the gun to invent something new quickly I would guess.
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So what we're saying is, Shadowrun grand strategy game CONFIRMED
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Elias_Maluco posted:CK3 Battletech DLC sunset invasion sucked but this would be freaking epic
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Elias_Maluco posted:CK3 Battletech DLC the monkey's paw version of this is a Star Trek Infinite-type game but for the Battletech
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