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Bizarro Buddha posted:Thank you, I actually wasn't sure if I'd identified it correctly. I see it's intended for cutting rebates, but i thought it might help with working on the shoulders of tenons too? Ideally you'd get the shoulder bang-on when sawing it, but since very few people actually live in ideally-land all the time, cleaning up a shoulder with a rebate plane, while not ideal, will still get the job done with some care & consideration. I know I've had occasion to do that, and the 5 quid rebate plane I have has come in handy many times.
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Leperflesh posted:oh, you! Sometimes I wonder if I walk the line of being just dumb.  Anyways, those guides are hilariously awesome. I can push it in on the wrong angle and baaaam it pulls it against the fence. I had to file the T-bolts to fit in my table saw fence. When I first got them I was so disappointed they wouldn’t work by just a little bit. Went in and had dinner and was like “yur dumb” and got the files out. 
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Bizarro Buddha posted:Believe me I will absolutely be posting updates as soon as I have anything other than dust from flattening and sharpening to share! I have a bunch of early build ideas and the biggest limiting factor is getting my tools ready and letting some stock acclimatize to my space. You can also search for varlope if you need a jointer plane! Hi from Montreal.
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Of course there's a woodworking thread, why didn't I think to look for this sooner..... I'm new-ish to this. My father used to make wooden crap to sell at craft fairs as a side hustle when I was really young. My brother and I got dragged along and with a few exceptions where the location had a kickass playground nearby and lots of other bored kids, we generally hated everything about those weekends. I had no interest in trying my hand at any of it as a result and hated shop class in middle school as well. When I say crap, I mean crap....little chatchkies from patterns in books. Both of my grandfathers made clocks, oddly. But now that I'm an adult with a taste for nice things made well out of wood, I've been equipping my garage and really enjoying myself. I wish I'd known about this thread a few months back when I was restoring my dining room table and chairs, but with various youtube channels and books I muddled my way through the project and even fixed some completely snapped tenons on the chairs (which I'm drat proud of since I didn't even know how to describe the joint to google it properly). Before & After:   The chairs were really unstable, many had cracked seats or big splits forming in the backs; they took by far the longest chunk of time with all the repairs needed (plus staining them was a pain). The table wasn't in bad shape structurally, but that top surface was a mess. Now all of those chairs can support my fat rear end, and the table is smooth as hell. I don't fancy making furniture, though. My focus is going to be on smaller stuff. I've made longbows before and am excited to get back into it, and I'm going to experiment with making game accessories (see: [url=https://wyrmwoodgaming.com/]Wyrmwood's deckboxes and dice towers and such) and chess boards and things like that. I'm also dying to learn violin making, later this year I'm coming up on 30 years of playing and I once worked in a shop here in town.
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Sockington posted:Oh god what have I done You're tooling up at a rate that reminds me of myself when I got started. 
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This looks really great, I love how the new finish makes the different parts of the surface "pop" - I'm definitely thinking I want to make visible joinery as I start making projects.
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     A set of coasters I made as Christmas gifts. Purpleheart and walnut, finished with "The Good Stuff", which is a semi-gloss gel urethane finish that I'm quite fond of. I started with two 1/4"-thick boards, one of purpleheart and one of walnut. They've been lying around for years after an overcomplicated attempt at a cutting board failed, and I wanted to use them up. Taped them together and cut some curves through them on the bandsaw, swapped pieces around, glued them up, then repeated cutting crosswise. Cut the boards down into roughly 4" squares, and cleaned each one up on the belt sander (protip: use cauls religiously when doing the glue-ups, to minimize this step). Then, because they were getting pretty thin and there were some awfully small glue surfaces, I stuck a ~3/16"-thick square of scrap underneath each one to provide reinforcement. The scraps were cherry and sapele, basically whatever I had lying around that I could slice into thin pieces of the right size. Interesting thing about the purpleheart: after the cleanup stage on the belt sander, it turned dark brown, and then gradually regained its purpleness over the course of the next 24 hours or so. I'm guessing this is a photochemical reaction, like how cherry darkens in the sun, but I don't actually know. It's a hell of a lot faster than the cherry darkening. I don't think it's simple oxidation, because I put finish on one of the coasters before it had turned purple, and it regained purpleness at the same rate as its siblings. Main mistakes on this project: I didn't use enough cauls in the first glue-up, and I accidentally flipped one of the sets upside-down, so the fact that they're mirror images is harder to detect.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Taped them together and cut some curves through them on the bandsaw, swapped pieces around, glued them up, then repeated cutting crosswise. At first I thought you inlaid these and I was like "oh drat I'll never be that good"... And then when I read what you did I was like "oh drat I'll never be that smart"
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I learned the technique from a tutorial for making a cutting board. Or, well, two cutting boards; the technique always gets you matched pairs, because of the stacking cutting. You can in principle stack three or four boards on top of each other to get more colors in the final piece (and more copies), but it's risky. The thicker the material you cut on a bandsaw, the more opportunity there is for the bandsaw blade to deflect off of straight vertical, and that gets even worse if you're cutting curves. And if the boards don't have exactly the same cut, they won't glue together cleanly. My daily driver cutting board was done with this technique, though, in maple and walnut. It's a good look.
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Oct 13, 2023 19:16
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I still haven't built anything yet, but I did acquire some practice material for putting together some tool organizers. I don't have a problem.
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Bizarro Buddha posted:I still haven't built anything yet, but I did acquire some practice material for putting together some tool organizers. I don't have a problem. Sure you do. That bike isn’t big enough to bring home much lumber.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I learned the technique from a tutorial for making a cutting board. Or, well, two cutting boards; the technique always gets you matched pairs, because of the stacking cutting. You can in principle stack three or four boards on top of each other to get more colors in the final piece (and more copies), but it's risky. The thicker the material you cut on a bandsaw, the more opportunity there is for the bandsaw blade to deflect off of straight vertical, and that gets even worse if you're cutting curves. And if the boards don't have exactly the same cut, they won't glue together cleanly. This is the exact principle behind marquetry, except using super thin wood, so sometimes the stacks get 7 or 8 layer thick.
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Just Winging It posted:Setting up/calibrating machines is the one exception where I'd say you're within bounds to use a dial indicator in a woodshop. Use of a micrometer however will earn you a stay in the naughty corner until you've sworn off your wicked ways. If you aren't using a micrometer to measure your tenon thickness, are you really a woodworker?
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I'm afraid not. I'm just LARPing as a less competent, female version of Roy Underhill, loving around with hand tools, cutting myself and bleeding on everything while building stuff. So far no-one has found out I'm a phoney who doesn't use a micrometer yet.
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Skunkduster posted:If you aren't using a micrometer to measure your tenon thickness, are you really a woodworker? You can't really hope to make a coffee table properly unless you have a steam chamber to measure expansion and contraction at various environmental humidity levels
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can you even make a coffee table correctly if you aren't roasting your own beans?
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I don't drink coffee. Are there designs for tea tables that I can look at? Edit: I said this as a joke, but I typed it into Google and there are!
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Now I want to make a table from coffee wood. Or perhaps from glued-up coffee grounds.
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Just Winging It posted:I'm afraid not. I'm just LARPing as a less competent, female version of Roy Underhill, loving around with hand tools, cutting myself and bleeding on everything while building stuff. So far no-one has found out I'm a phoney who doesn't use a micrometer yet. We should all aspire to BE LIKE ROY, except leave a safe amount of blood on each job. This is the Way. Uthor posted:I don't drink coffee. Are there designs for tea tables that I can look at? They probably predate coffee tables by quite a bit. I always picture something out of Pushkin but modernized- a steaming samovar on a scaled down Model T or a locomotive or somesuch nonsense.
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Uthor posted:I don't drink coffee. Are there designs for tea tables that I can look at?
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Mr. Mambold posted:We should all aspire to BE LIKE ROY, except leave a safe amount of blood on each job. This is the Way.  I've got the "not cutting yourself with your tools" down, now the "not bang your hands/knuckles into everything" part.
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 I'm really tired. I still haven't built anything but I started working on a pair of 'low Japanese saw horses' to bootstrap myself up to building a work bench and that work bench can't come soon enough because this little plastic thing sucks. I'm really struggling to hold work steady and it rattles like crazy. And I don't think I did a good enough job of sharpening my 1" chisel.
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Just Winging It posted:I've got the "not cutting yourself with your tools" down lol, such optimism! Bizarro Buddha posted:
I'll just caution you that while it's great salvaging free wood for projects, pallet wood kinda sucks, so prepare yourself for working with trash wood. As soon as you can afford it I'd advise you to buy some poplar, it's a good hardwood that is softer, easy to cut and work with, and inexpensive.
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Bizarro Buddha posted:
I'm quite fond of my paul sellers sawhorses. They were a fun project and I use them all the time. e. they're really nice for general workholding because the... uh... tongues? on either end are really good clamping surfaces, so they can end up be really modular. Use one on its own with squeeze clamps, clamp a bigger board to two of them and work on that, etc. My pathway for workholding was sawhorses -> roman bench -> anarchist's workbench CommonShore fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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Leperflesh posted:I'll just caution you that while it's great salvaging free wood for projects, pallet wood kinda sucks, so prepare yourself for working with trash wood. As soon as you can afford it I'd advise you to buy some poplar, it's a good hardwood that is softer, easy to cut and work with, and inexpensive. Yeah I'm not expecting miracles from this and I can feel how fragile some of this wood is, but I'm basically treating it like practice scraps and shop wood. I'm planning to practice some basic joints using it to make wood storage, tool trays, totes, stuff like that. I've also been stocking up on some other things to lay in my place and let acclimatize to my humidity - some basic pine from big box stores, and the other day I picked up some rock maple and canary wood at a local specialist store because they were cheaper per board foot and seemed worthwhile for practice. CommonShore posted:I'm quite fond of my paul sellers sawhorses. They were a fun project and I use them all the time. I haven't seen Paul Sellers saw horses yet, I'll look them up. My current plan is low saw horses -> Rex Kreuger 's low travelers work bench (just two 2x6x8 construction lumber) -> eventually a Moravian or similar knock down bench Bizarro Buddha fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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Bizarro Buddha posted:Yeah I'm not expecting miracles from this and I can feel how fragile some of this wood is, but I'm basically treating it like practice scraps and shop wood. I'm planning to practice some basic joints using it to make wood storage, tool trays, totes, stuff like that. The trouble with palette wood is it's dirty and has bits of crap in it so it dulls your tools. I try not to use any for projects that require anything more than sawing it.
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Bizarro Buddha posted:
I made (in order) from Rex Kruegar the low japenese saw horses, the low roman bench, and eventually a version of the joiners bench. I also started working on a repurposed desk/table thing that was wobbly and hard to clamp onto. I'd say don't sweat too much on the sawhorses, they were a good learning project but I never really ended up using them much. The low roman bench was my primary work spot for about 1.5 years and was better/more useful than expected. My only regret with it was that i wish I had made it about 1 inch taller than I did. (Sometimes I found that I wanted to clamp with the bar facing down, and if the stock was thin enough, the bar of the clamp would hit the ground below.)
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SimonSays posted:The trouble with palette wood is it's dirty and has bits of crap in it so it dulls your tools. I try not to use any for projects that require anything more than sawing it. That's fair, I was expecting to plane it to make it presentable even for shop pieces so I'll make sure to clean off as much gunk as I can first. Bann posted:I made (in order) from Rex Kruegar the low japenese saw horses, the low roman bench, and eventually a version of the joiners bench. I also started working on a repurposed desk/table thing that was wobbly and hard to clamp onto. I'd say don't sweat too much on the sawhorses, they were a good learning project but I never really ended up using them much. The low roman bench was my primary work spot for about 1.5 years and was better/more useful than expected. My only regret with it was that i wish I had made it about 1 inch taller than I did. (Sometimes I found that I wanted to clamp with the bar facing down, and if the stock was thin enough, the bar of the clamp would hit the ground below.) Yeah the sawhorses are pretty much for practice and bootstrapping, I don't expect to use them forever.
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SimonSays posted:The trouble with palette wood is it's dirty and has bits of crap in it so it dulls your tools. I try not to use any for projects that require anything more than sawing it. If you're not a careful, it can also be a great way to bring powderpost beetles into your shop. Most wood that pallets are made out of has been heat treated to kill powderpost beetles and will have a stamp that says HT on it somewhere, but not all. Any pallet that has crossed or will cross international borders is heat treated, but I've occasionally had stuff delivered on hardwood pallets without HT stamps that very clearly had active bugs in them. Some examples of the stamps to look for (at least in North America): https://www.1001pallets.com/heat-treated-pallets-want/ Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Oct 16, 2023 |
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I looked for the HT stamps because I was afraid I'd otherwise get something treated with nasty chemicals
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Leperflesh posted:lol, such optimism! I think I knick myself every time I change my saw blade, no matter how careful I am.
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Bizarro Buddha posted:eventually a Moravian or similar knock down bench I built Schwarz's Knockdown Nicholson and recommend it. Comes apart easily with bolts. Whatever style you choose, don't skip a leg (or other) vise.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:Without regular blood sacrifice the shop demons will surely not extend you protection from fire and powderpost beetle Not to mention serious injuries. They're like the Mob- either for ya or agin ya.
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Ugh, I've moved a bunch of garden tools out of the workshop storage into a more appropriate space (little outdoor shed, woo!) and I'm really not wanting to tear down some perfectly acceptable shelves that are in the way of where I might stash a perfectly good workbench. I could use them as wood storage since I don't usually keep big stacks of boards on hand, nor long pieces in great quantity. But that would kind of make the rolling wood storage cart I made a while back obsolete and I'd have to find somewhere else to put the bench, or consolidate two cabinets into one and get rid of one of those. I guess I'm just loath to tear down/apart storage. Shop re-organizers, advice or encouragement?
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Could you film an interpretive dance or something to convey the layout of your shop and your storage needs this really isn't cutting it
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El Spamo posted:Ugh, I've moved a bunch of garden tools out of the workshop storage into a more appropriate space (little outdoor shed, woo!) and I'm really not wanting to tear down some perfectly acceptable shelves that are in the way of where I might stash a perfectly good workbench. I could use them as wood storage since I don't usually keep big stacks of boards on hand, nor long pieces in great quantity. But that would kind of make the rolling wood storage cart I made a while back obsolete and I'd have to find somewhere else to put the bench, or consolidate two cabinets into one and get rid of one of those. It's important to forge ahead. If you don't spend a healthy proportion of your time re-organizing your shop you'll be forced to actually do woodworking.
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bobua posted:It's important to forge ahead. If you don't spend a healthy proportion of your time re-organizing your shop you'll be forced to actually do woodworking. If you don’t completely reorganize or plan to completely reorganize and rearrange your shop on a quarterly or semiannual basis, you aren’t a real woodworker sorry. For real though your needs change over time, your space has changed with you changing your garden tool storage, don’t be afraid to rearrange. Don’t fall into the sink cost fallacy. As you work in your space more, you’ll better figure out what’s in the wrong and right places, and you can fix that! If you screw storage stuff together without glue, it’s pretty easy to take things apart and repurpose the materials too. That being said, I’d try working with that is existing for a little while first, and maybe move things around instead of tearing something down. You might find what you have can work fine if you approach it different. For forever I had my workbench perpendicular to a wall in my shop because it had good light and ventilation from a door and my drill press was halfway across the shop because that’s where I had decided it was gonna live 5 years ago and both the bench and drill press placement were totally fixed and immovable in my brain until one day it finally hit me that no, this is terrible. Turned the bench 90 degrees and moved the drill press over by the bench and tool (and drill bit) storage and now everything works and feels 4x better. Don’t be afraid to experiment, and don’t attach things permanently if you can help it. Just the other day I moved my second bench from the useless spot where it had been serving as fancy ash Roubo style junk table for a year to one where it actually serves as a useful and practical workbench.
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