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Failed Imagineer posted:That greasy gently caress wouldn't burn clean enough for white smoke Ahh, so he would be the source of the black smoke. Got it.
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Failed Imagineer posted:That greasy gently caress wouldn't burn clean enough for white smoke Probably torch up and spew black smoke everywhere. Hope you've got glass barriers in front of that fireplace instead of a screen or they might get some grease burns.
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haveblue posted:Yes. Voting for a speaker is the only thing the House can do without a speaker I can't wait for the GOP to start blaming Democrats for not voting for their guy. Again.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:46
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So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote?
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Kaal posted:So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote? I wonder if any democrat could nominate someone from the other party for the lulz?
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Oct 11, 2023 19:49
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What would be more entertaining, all the House democrats voting in lockstep for Jeffries over and over and over and... Or the Dems entering Max Chaos mode and voting in lockstep for a different random Republican each time, avoiding all the Republicans who actually want the speakership?
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Oct 11, 2023 19:52
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You vote for Jeffries over and over again. Do not make this about you, this is the Republicans making GBS threads themselves and then slipping in it over and over again, do not wander into the poo poo show.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:53
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Kaal posted:So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote? Rumors are he's been training his goatman form.
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Oct 11, 2023 19:55
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Kaal posted:So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote? The gas-pedal
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Kaal posted:So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote? Dicks out for chaos
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Failed Imagineer posted:The gas-pedal I was going to say he would gaspadal himself.
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Another defector announces he won't honor the caucus vote for Scalise on the floor: https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1712163488888459762 That brings it up to 4 who are publicly opposed or not committed.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Another defector announces he won't honor the caucus vote for Scalise on the floor: So that's Scalise's limit, right? He can't afford a single other defection from the remaining Republican Reps, including Gaetz of all people, without guaranteeing at least 2 rounds of speakership votes?
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Kaal posted:So McCain had his thumbs down, and Sinema had her weird curtsy. What awkward finishing move is Gaetz going to do when he tanks the Scalise vote? A creepy smile and a wink at the all girls highschool field trip in the balcony. Randalor posted:What would be more entertaining, all the House democrats voting in lockstep for Jeffries over and over and over and... If they vote for a Republican they'll have to do a rush to change their vote when a handful of Republicans join them, or spend the rest of the term explaining why the guy they lockstep voted for sucks.
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Gyges posted:If they vote for a Republican they'll have to do a rush to change their vote when a handful of Republicans join them, or spend the rest of the term explaining why the guy they lockstep voted for sucks. That's a fair point. What about if they each just vote for one non-speaker candidate each in the first round of voting? Just a general "Here's a participation trophy, you can say someone voted for you for speaker."
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The party line is that the House should be less chaotic and the GOP should get its poo poo together as quickly as possible, sadly that rules out trolling stunts
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Oct 11, 2023 22:04
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Thoughts and stairs for Tommy Tuberville.
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lmao at nancy mace the insane chaos agent https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1712217436643008793
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This is all secretly part of Matt Gaetz's plan to become POTUS through the Speakership. We need to make sure Biden and Harris are separate if it ever looks like he might ascend 
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smug n stuff posted:lmao at nancy mace the insane chaos agent Since she has no issues with speaking at the caucus gathering, she must really hate David Duke.
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smug n stuff posted:lmao at nancy mace the insane chaos agent There are two ways you can interpret her objection
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"He once spoke to a white supremacist meeting and compared himself to David Duke, but what has he done for me lately?"
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"Congressman, you are no David Duke!"
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It proves he's a liberal because liberals are the real racists.
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My instinct is no? They'd be driven from the party and switching wouldn't help them I'd think. Last MOC to try that was Arlen Specter? Replaced by Pat Toomey (R). Reaching across the aisle did Liz Cheney no favors either.
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I think the problem for defectors is that they'd have to give Democrats a lot for it to actually work, and if Republican members of congress wanted to vote for that much Democratic legislation they could just switch parties.
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The Lone Badger posted:Do the dems have enough to offer defectors that they could have a go at forming a minority government? I don't believe there are any Republicans who are in a district where either they don't have to worry about being primaried for treason, or would survive the Democratic primary if they switched parties. So outside of outright bribes, there is nothing to offer Republicans that would allow the Democrats to form a minority government. There are probably enough Republicans who could be talked into some sort of arrangement where the Democrats get a lot of rules that allow them to bring bills to the floor and gain some power over the agenda, but where Republicans are still in charge and have the Speaker's office. The exact limits of such a quasi/actual power sharing agreement are unknown.
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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1712225690173493268 I think the odds we have a speaker by the time the current budget CR deal runs out are very slim at this point.
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So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer?
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https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1712170212643262766 According to the doctors over at Fox News, I believe this indicates advanced stage Lewy body dementia.
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Skippy McPants posted:So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer? Stout sticks are distributed and the House doors locked until only one faction remains.
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The Lone Badger posted:Stout sticks are distributed and the House doors locked until only one faction remains. I've seen documentary footage of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUC2EQvdzmY&t=93s
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Skippy McPants posted:So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer? No House business gets done until they elect a Speaker of the House to conduct said business.
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Skippy McPants posted:So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer? Nothing the founders did acknowledged the idea that maybe the political body might have political parties, despite themselves dividing into two parties before finalizing everything. So things aren't set up with the idea that the majority party must pick their Speaker, things are set up with the idea that a majority of the House picks a Speaker. So if Republicans can't get their poo poo together, we just watch as we blow by 15 rounds of voting and wait until Vegas or somebody lets us place bets on whether we finally show the 1800s who's boss and blow by 133 rounds. Or some Republican makes a deal with Democrats to buy their support while retaining at least 4 other Republicans.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1712170212643262766 Its tuberville, how would you know his mind is going? He comes pre-vegetable
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Skippy McPants posted:So, just speaking theoretically here because I'm sure it's extremely unlikely, but what happens if the majority party is unable to elect a speaker? Are there any procedural fallbacks if they're literally unable to get their poo poo together for weeks or longer? In theory the American public should immediately (well, at the nearest election, because the system is stupid) vote out the people too disorganized and fractured to elect a Speaker. In practice lol
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I am impressed that it seems McCarthy isn't the only person in Republican Leadership with a humiliation fetish. Like, what was even the point of their big push for Speaker Scalise when it was almost immediately undercut by Republicans shouting how they'll never vote for him. The whole point of their closed door thing was to find a guy who can get 217 votes, and they run proudly to the press with their nominee who can only get 113 in a closed door meeting. Unless I'm misunderstanding, and all the Speaker Scalise news is essentially leaks to the press from the 99 NO voters looking to shiv Caesar before his toga even touches the Rubicon.
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Ravenfood posted:As far as I know, no. There is no House business that can be done before a Speaker is elected. All the Constitution requires is that the “House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker”, a position that has no defined legislative powers. So hypothetically they could “determine the Rules of its Proceedings” in a way that strips the speaker of any formal role and simply operate on a majority vote. In practice there’s no reason that the “blow up the government” caucus is going to go out of their way to make sure the government is functioning.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1712170212643262766 Hopefully he remains absent from the Senate for a few days.
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