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IMO the Speaker should be selected each week: the departing speaker tosses the gavel and whoever catches it is the next speaker. (It is the departing speaker's choice whether to throw underarm or overarm)
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zoux posted:Is it going to shut down before or after the VA Senate elections? A few days after, which is 100% why McCarthy went for 45 days as a CR time period rather than 30 or 60. See the reward he got for his strategic thinking, of course.
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I imagine the workers and voters of north Virginia will still feel that shutdown looming. https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1712652115821133956 Why not a sword in a stone, congressman
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They’re going to reinvent IRV by the end of this.
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zoux posted:I imagine the workers and voters of north Virginia will still feel that shutdown looming. https://twitter.com/aoc/status/1712640369819570415?s=49&t=mDn_gxEwlFFzTq-IGBYGiQ
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zoux posted:I imagine the workers and voters of north Virginia will still feel that shutdown looming. Oh yeah constantly getting a drip feed of work emails, text messages, and Washington Post articles about an impending shutdown is absolutely a psychological impact, even if it doesn't end up happening (ask me how I know this  )
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zoux posted:I imagine the workers and voters of north Virginia will still feel that shutdown looming. Ranked choice voting for me not for thee
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https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1712655880649318693 Jim Jordan is going to run for speaker against nobody and lose
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Anybody can lose when in a competition against others, but it takes a real leader to lose when competing against no one.
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I don't want to detract from Mr. Jordan's achievements in being unlikable, but is there anyone who could win?
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Morrow posted:I don't want to detract from Mr. Jordan's achievements in being unlikable, but is there anyone who could win? Former President Donald J. Trump could win without having to make any promises.
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Morrow posted:I don't want to detract from Mr. Jordan's achievements in being unlikable, but is there anyone who could win? Seems very unlikely, I don't think literally anybody could get all but 5 Republicans, not even Trump
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The Lone Badger posted:IMO the Speaker should be selected each week: the departing speaker tosses the gavel and whoever catches it is the next speaker. Overhead backwards, like a wedding bouquet.
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Morrow posted:I don't want to detract from Mr. Jordan's achievements in being unlikable, but is there anyone who could win? There's only one total loving idiot with a proven track record of barely getting enough votes. However everyone else has to first prove they are incapable of making it through the gauntlet of humiliation.
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The Lone Badger posted:IMO the Speaker should be selected each week: the departing speaker tosses the gavel and whoever catches it is the next speaker. I'm picturing a Hammer Brother or Bowser when he starts throwing them in SMB1.
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Gyges posted:There's only one total loving idiot with a proven track record of barely getting enough votes. However everyone else has to first prove they are incapable of making it through the gauntlet of humiliation. They seem to be on the right/wrong track to prove just that
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Gyges posted:There's only one total loving idiot with a proven track record of barely getting enough votes. However everyone else has to first prove they are incapable of making it through the gauntlet of humiliation. He managed it once, but after all this can even he do it again? Like the same things that made Matt 'Schoolgirl Enthusiast' Gaetz and company kick him out once still prevail, and it'd be less humiliated to be led around on all fours on a leash than give the Detached From Reality Caucus enough to win them back (to say nothing of any sane Republicans he might lose in so doing). I can't stop laughing at how badly the Republicans have hosed this all up Q: If we make the assumption that a new Speaker gets to do the rules setup thing even if it's not a new Congress, is that something that can be forced in ahead of anything else? Because if not I'm imagining someone finally manages to get the magic number, plans to get rid of the rule that let them boot out McCarthy, and then find that Gaetz has done some kind of procedural fuckery to kick out the new guy before the changes can be made 
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Has anyone run any polls on Gaetz or the other HFC idiots since booting McCarthy? Have their constituents started to turn on them for this nonsense, or are they still as popular as ever?
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Ms Adequate posted:Q: If we make the assumption that a new Speaker gets to do the rules setup thing even if it's not a new Congress, is that something that can be forced in ahead of anything else? Because if not I'm imagining someone finally manages to get the magic number, plans to get rid of the rule that let them boot out McCarthy, and then find that Gaetz has done some kind of procedural fuckery to kick out the new guy before the changes can be made New Rules happen with the election of the New Speaker. It's majority vote done at the same time, though a majority of the House can change the rules at any time. It's just that there's virtually nothing that is going to be changed with a bipartisan majority vote so which ever party the Speaker is in pretty much just makes them at the election of the Speaker. Also if you don't do it then, any rules that don't involve the Speaker being the unquestioned ruler of the House won't make it to the floor. Given the extremely narrow majority, and the prevalence of stupid lunatics in the Republican Party, there is certainly a non-zero chance that any rules implemented accidentally include a loophole that allows unmitigated chaos to continue it's reign.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Has anyone run any polls on Gaetz or the other HFC idiots since booting McCarthy? Have their constituents started to turn on them for this nonsense, or are they still as popular as ever? They’d only be doing this if it pleased their constituents
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Gyges posted:New Rules happen with the election of the New Speaker. It's majority vote done at the same time, though a majority of the House can change the rules at any time. It's just that there's virtually nothing that is going to be changed with a bipartisan majority vote so which ever party the Speaker is in pretty much just makes them at the election of the Speaker. Also if you don't do it then, any rules that don't involve the Speaker being the unquestioned ruler of the House won't make it to the floor. I don't believe this is true. A new Congress sets new rules after electing a Speaker,.but those rules aren't voided after a speaker dies, resigns, or is vacated. They'd have to be amended, rather than wholesale replaced with a simple up or down vote.
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nachos posted:They’d only be doing this if it pleased their constituents And I don't believe this for a second.
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I listened to an NPR piece in which a bunch of folks at a Florida Republican Club in his district were talking about Matt Gaetz running for Governor.
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I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something?
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Cimber posted:I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something? He (edit: unconfirmed?) lost a testicle in a mass shooting back in 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shooting?wprov=sfla1 Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Cimber posted:I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something? Scalise was shot in the groin during the Congressional Baseball game a few years ago. Separately he currently has multiple myeloma. efb 
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Cimber posted:I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something? He was shot in the dick by a crazy guy: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/us/steve-scalise-congress-shot-alexandria-virginia.html
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Cimber posted:I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something? Scalise was the only Congressional victim at the 2017 Congressional baseball game, where a mentally ill left-liberal activist got killed by police after shooting up the place, injuring several others present as well. Scalise was hit in the pelvis so a "joke" spread about him losing one or both testicles. Like a lot such "jokes" it's got that horrible "but I want it to be true" irony going for it, plus he's viewed as an acceptable target, for the joke at least.
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Cimber posted:I don't get the new thread title. Did Scalise have testicular cancer and have a nut amputated or something? He was shot by a left-wing gunmen at the congressional softball game several years ago. He got shot on the side of his hip (sideways, so it went in on one side of his hip and came out the other) and caused a lot of damage to his internal organs and pelvis. It is assumed (but, not confirmed) that he lost or had his testicles damaged as a result of the shooting because he had to have extensive blood transfusions and reconstructive surgery.
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Immediately after the shooting, he turned around and affirmed his commitment to opposing gun control. I feel like that's a key element of the mean jokes.
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Quorum posted:I don't believe this is true. A new Congress sets new rules after electing a Speaker,.but those rules aren't voided after a speaker dies, resigns, or is vacated. They'd have to be amended, rather than wholesale replaced with a simple up or down vote. They don't have to change any rules, since there are rules already in place. However, I don't see any scenario where whatever group of Congressmen coalesces into 217 votes leaves these rules as they are. Nobody is going to trust which ever vote whore wins to keep their vast menagerie of conflicting promises, and there's very few scenarios where the current ability for any wacko to start the circus again stays. So the next Speaker is going to have to get some written clauses penned in goat blood instead of the previous honest handshake with Ol' Scratch McCarthy negotiated. And it's going to have to happen before Speaker Dingus takes power and makes jerk off motions on the floor when asked about voting on the new rules.
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Scalise hasn't gotten nearly the press of a dolt like Kevin McCarthy. People don't really feel like easing up on tasteless jokes when it comes to "David Duke without the baggage." He's a guy who even manages to bother some other Republicans with that one. It was hard enough to get rid of Steve King.Shooting Blanks posted:Has anyone run any polls on Gaetz or the other HFC idiots since booting McCarthy? Have their constituents started to turn on them for this nonsense, or are they still as popular as ever? Most of the reason all this is even happening is because the House is hopelessly gerrymandered. Only about 20% of districts are competitive.
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There's still one Republican who has the experience of negotiating with a Democratic President, the track record of getting votes, and the list of legislative achievements needed to be Speaker of the House. Even better, he is: TANNED  RESTED  READY 
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And probably stoned enough right now that it seems like a good idea
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Discendo Vox posted:Scalise was the only Congressional victim at the 2017 Congressional baseball game, where a mentally ill left-liberal activist got killed by police after shooting up the place, injuring several others present as well. Scalise was hit in the pelvis so a "joke" spread about him losing one or both testicles. Like a lot such "jokes" it's got that horrible "but I want it to be true" irony going for it, plus he's viewed as an acceptable target, for the joke at least.
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Shoot off the balls of all white supremacists.
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Like David Duke without the ballage
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Discendo Vox posted:Scalise was the only Congressional victim at the 2017 Congressional baseball game, where a mentally ill left-liberal activist got killed by police after shooting up the place, injuring several others present as well. Scalise was hit in the pelvis so a "joke" spread about him losing one or both testicles. Like a lot such "jokes" it's got that horrible "but I want it to be true" irony going for it, plus he's viewed as an acceptable target, for the joke at least. Look how much this man cares about the integrity and honor of Steve Scalise's balls. What moral excellence. On behalf of every single poster on Something Awful.com, we salute you sir.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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