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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Is the entire Labour Party conference gonna get banged up for singing The Red Flag then? Pretty blatant endorsement of terroristic-style beliefs

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

I'm still so mad at nihilism as part of anarchism
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of Zentrale der Verkehrs Fliegerschule, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

smellmycheese posted:

Place yer bets. I’m going with “he once ordered a flatbread in a Lebanese restaurant”



This is just going to be reheated Jeremy Corbyn one met Hamas at a party and said a polite hello stuff again?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

keep punching joe posted:

This is just going to be reheated Jeremy Corbyn one met Hamas at a party and said a polite hello stuff again?

It's Daily Star on Sunday....website.
It's so low down the scale of 'who cares'.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

keep punching joe posted:

This is just going to be reheated Jeremy Corbyn one met Hamas at a party and said a polite hello stuff again?

it's an "exclusive", that's going to be published in the star, but not actually in the physical paper, just the website, by a third rate hack


probably not even reheated, if it was anything new or valuable to the scum then it would have been used further up the foodchain and faster

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


e: nm, not thread appropriate

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Oct 13, 2023

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I know Jaeluni appreciates a good shared xls file gone feral story...

https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/12/excel_anesthetist_recruitment_blunder/

quote:

Exclusive Computer errors, bad technology choices, and flawed processes have disrupted the recruitment of trainee anesthetists in England and Wales.

In autumn 2021, candidates seeking their third-level specialist training position (ST3) were looking forward to hearing where they would end up in one of the NHS's most sought-after medical disciplines.

However, the body responsible for their selection and recruitment – the Anaesthetic National Recruitment Office (ANRO) – told all the candidates for positions in Wales they were "unappointable," despite some of them achieving the highest interview scores.

Only when one of the candidates challenged the decision did ANRO realize its error. A subsequent Significant Incident Review showed a complex and confused approach to using spreadsheets led to the disaster.

"The interview scores are stored in an Excel spreadsheet. Each of the seven [UK] recruitment regions creates a separate spreadsheet, but these have no standardised template, naming convention or structure. After being manually amended, all of the various scores are entered into a Master spreadsheet. This is carried out row-by-row and takes several days, likely to be subject to interruptions," the report said.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Josef bugman posted:

Going to try and put a little bit of happiness out into the world at the moment, but my girlfriend said yes and we are now Fiancé's!

Congratulations to you both, you deserve nothing but happiness!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

quote:

"The interview scores are stored in an Excel spreadsheet. Each of the seven [UK] recruitment regions creates a separate spreadsheet, but these have no standardised template, naming convention or structure. After being manually amended, all of the various scores are entered into a Master spreadsheet. This is carried out row-by-row and takes several days, likely to be subject to interruptions," the report said.

I think everyone who's worked in public sector (or even just in a role with lots of data-entry drone work) just did an internal dry-heave of recognition

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Failed Imagineer posted:

I think everyone who's worked in public sector (or even just in a role with lots of data-entry drone work) just did an internal dry-heave of recognition

This sort of task should literally take minutes, or seconds if they actually took the time to I dunno use some VBA.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Josef bugman posted:

Going to try and put a little bit of happiness out into the world at the moment, but my girlfriend said yes and we are now Fiancé's!

congrats bugman and future spouse!

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009

OwlFancier posted:

When I think Tories I think people who are above grievance based politics.

Above, Are. Same thing, really.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/richhypno/status/1712750304981057685

Just more proof that Keith doesn't have to promise a thing, except war crimes and genocide

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

keep punching joe posted:

This sort of task should literally take minutes, or seconds if they actually took the time to I dunno use some VBA.
I'm reminded of when I was doing IT in a school many years ago, and for whatever reason all the pupils' report letters were stored together in a single huge Word document. Somebody wanted to show me some issue with a particular report so they loaded up the document and held down on the scroll arrow, and started to make small talk while they patiently waited for the document to scroll through hundreds of pages.

I asked the kid's name, did a CTRL-F to jump straight to it, and I have never seen such a look of astonishment before or since. This kind of thing is happening everywhere, all day, every day.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
All over the UK thousands of Operations Managers are painstakingly entering numbers manually into one spreadsheet from a report they've looked at on Power BI.

The numbers have been somehow been stored as text strings.

keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Oct 13, 2023

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Will never not think of a large, powerful Bisexual

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

keep punching joe posted:

I know Jaeluni appreciates a good shared xls file gone feral story...

https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/12/excel_anesthetist_recruitment_blunder/

Tell me about it! When I worked for a large, popular (ahem!) rail infrastructure company - a considerable number of moons ago now - I inherited a system almost the same where there was no national template of how to put data in an excel sheet and a considerable amount of copying and pasting from one sheet to another depending whether it was national reporting, local reporting or reports for our "customers" (TOCs) - it used to take 3 weeks after the end of a 4 weekly period to produce our reports. I devoted a LOT of effort (while seriously understaffed) to automating across spreadsheets, and a couple of my bods when I was allowed to recruit improved upon it, so we were the only region (out of 8 in the UK) who got our almost all our reports out within 1 day of the start of the period (other than major IT issues outside of our control) following the one we were reporting on.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
Love to get emails from colleagues with long URLs to powerbi.com that are definitely not suspicious.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

I think I'm coming around to the idea of the glitter protestor being an op.

Protester who poured glitter over Keir Starmer says he is sorry for actions

quote:

A man who threw glitter over the Labour leader Keir Starmer at the start of his party conference speech this week in Liverpool has said he is sorry for his actions.

Yaz Ashmawi told Fubar Radio he regretted having touched Starmer at the beginning of his speech on Tuesday as part of a protest calling for changes to the UK’s voting system.



Ashmawi told Fubar’s Politics Uncensored podcast: “The thought that, even for a moment, he felt that he was in danger is horrible to think about.

“I think it is absolutely fine to pour glitter on someone and to go on to the stage. I just think it is physical contact that crossed the line there.”

Asked whether he would like to apologise to the Labour leader, he said: “Yes, absolutely. I’m sorry for doing that.”

Separately, Ashmawi told the BBC he was sorry “for putting my hand on him and touching him when he wasn’t expecting it”.

He added: “Politicians get a lot of death threats and they have a need to feel safe and I compromised that in that moment by touching him.”
Just the most decorum-brained protest imaginable

Angrymog
Jan 30, 2012

Really Madcats

smellmycheese posted:

How is this real lol

The German airforce is still called the Luftwaffe, and that's still their roundel?

I imagine it might be tricky to get a civilian flight into Israel at the moment?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

Will never not think of a large, powerful Bisexual
Maximum respect for Britain's first Asian rockstar and most powerful Bi.

killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

Maximum respect for Britain's first Asian rockstar and most powerful Bi.

Powerful yes, not that large.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

killerwhat posted:

Powerful yes, not that large.

He gave off large man vibes.

frankenbeans
Feb 16, 2003

Good Times
I have worked in IT in the NHS for 20+ years now and see this poo poo on the regular. We're in the process of migrating all our user and shared data to teams/onedrive/sharepoint/whatever and the amount of 'critical' systems that break when a seemingly unrelated area moves is horrific. People who have departments 100% reliant on Access2010 because their predecessor tried to save a couple of grand and made their own system and then left without any documentation or handover. People who think 10 spreadsheets badly hooked together is a solution for anything, much less anything that belongs in a hospital.

Also, people numbering folders. What the gently caress?

On the upside, we had a user called Shiny Baby, so who's to say etc..

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

killerwhat posted:

Powerful yes, not that large.

Idk, looks fairly big to me

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

frankenbeans posted:

I have worked in IT in the NHS for 20+ years now and see this poo poo on the regular. We're in the process of migrating all our user and shared data to teams/onedrive/sharepoint/whatever and the amount of 'critical' systems that break when a seemingly unrelated area moves is horrific. People who have departments 100% reliant on Access2010 because their predecessor tried to save a couple of grand and made their own system and then left without any documentation or handover. People who think 10 spreadsheets badly hooked together is a solution for anything, much less anything that belongs in a hospital.

Also, people numbering folders. What the gently caress?

On the upside, we had a user called Shiny Baby, so who's to say etc..

What would you prefer, spend tens of thousands on a company wide IT upgrade that will take months/years to complete. Or just get Martin from over there in the corner who I think knows how to do a vlookup, he could probably cobble something together and we only need to pay him £15 an hour.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://twitter.com/shaistaAziz/status/1712778948449386978

frankenbeans
Feb 16, 2003

Good Times

keep punching joe posted:

What would you prefer, spend tens of thousands on a company wide IT upgrade that will take months/years to complete. Or just get Martin from over there in the corner who I think knows how to do a vlookup, he could probably cobble something together and we only need to pay him £15 an hour.

*internal screaming*

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

keep punching joe posted:

This sort of task should literally take minutes, or seconds if they actually took the time to I dunno use some VBA.

The problem with VBA is when the one person who bothered to learn Visual Basic leaves and then you have an untouchable magic incantation spreadsheet that everyone is hoping will never break. now of course the answer is "actually train your staff to have better skills to do their job correctly" but that costs money so

fuctifino posted:

Just more proof that Keith doesn't have to promise a thing, except war crimes and genocide

"Tory strategists hoped ... cancelling HS2 Manchester would give him a boost"

the greatest minds

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

keep punching joe posted:

What would you prefer, spend tens of thousands on a company wide IT upgrade that will take months/years to complete. Or just get Martin from over there in the corner who I think knows how to do a vlookup, he could probably cobble something together and we only need to pay him £15 an hour.

Option 3, give £500m to a US company called palantir/sauron or something and let them have all our medical records.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe
I did two stints of data entry/management/presentation in the NHS in the early 2010s and this is all very familiar. Not only was my department using two clinical databases to hold patient and pathway info, but the databases couldn't talk to each other only (apparently) via Excel.

And about 80 per cent of my time was spent shuttling data between Excel sheets or correcting badly-formatted inputs.

I had (and still have) no training or professional experience on Excel, just what we were taught in IT Skills lessons at school, and I was basically hailed as a tech genius because I a) knew what a pivot table was and b) could use one.

Before that a lot of the data presentation was done by the secretaries manually scrolling through spreadsheets and adding the data to yet another spreadsheet.

And yes, I also blew some minds with the ability to use keyboard shortcuts.

I was able to automate about half my work just by creating a macro (which I did by googling 'how do you create a macro in Excel') and if I'd had a copy of MS Access I'd probably have been able to eliminate my role all together.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

frankenbeans posted:

Also, people numbering folders. What the gently caress?
Let me introduce you to my good friend Johnny Decimal 👹

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

TACD posted:

Let me introduce you to my good friend Johnny Decimal 👹

Must be some relation to Bobby Tables

Surprise T Rex
Apr 9, 2008

Dinosaur Gum
My favourite corporate IT horror story is from my wife who used to work in complaints at a massive insurance underwriter, which means their complaints are subject to a ton of Financial Conduct Authority regulations re: reporting and disclosure.

Their entire complaints database was a single multi-gigabyte MS Access file saved on a company network drive, with no backups.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Evidence from the covid enquiry which will be properly released at the end of the day:


"The real person in charge is Carrie"

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Want to see a cage fight between Johnny Decimal and Dollar Bill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZTeWLA1LAs

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

sinky posted:

Option 3, give £500m to a US company called palantir/sauron or something and let them have all our medical records.

Sauron has long been a friend to this administration.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Trust the Times to report on the grimmest subject matter in the most reprehensible possible way. Spoiler warning, picture of injured children:

:nms:https://x.com/wyattreed13/status/1712744733682930115?s=46&t=ARI_L-v32Oind1-d9B3a3Q:nms:

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

keep punching joe posted:

I know Jaeluni appreciates a good shared xls file gone feral story...

https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/12/excel_anesthetist_recruitment_blunder/

Lmao the revenge of some underpaid IT slave who was told to just combine the loving sheets goddammit

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Maybe I am remembering wrongly, but I think I heard on the James O'Brien LBC show years ago that Dover and the UK side of customs tracking usages archaic excel spreadsheets while the EU has a dedicated program to do it.

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