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I think you can pencil in a circle around that Bears-Panthers game that the loser of that game might be in real trouble. I think the Commanders will at least have a decent record until very late in the season. Staley getting fired feels pretty inevitable, but I doubt it's a mid-season thing.
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AndrewP posted:I’d hire Steve for DC if he’s looking for a job when dad retires. I think it depends on what he would want to do. If he's trying to run his defense like his dad without him as GM willing to spend picks on some oddball rear end players I think it's a lot more dubious. "Yeah I could really use this 260 pound run-down only edge with the athletic profile of a 3-technique, we want to convert him to an ILB" probably something a lot of GMs aren't going to be comfortable with. IMO I think the Brian Flores model is a lot more doable, just get normal guys and use the cool blitz package a bunch.
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this picture is the living embodiment of 'large adult son(s)' this has almost nothing to do with that but i screengrabbed this because arthur smith is a weird lookin dude if you squint hes kinda like a bizarro world a-a-ron 
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Play posted:this picture is the living embodiment of 'large adult son(s)' This man is the son of the billionaire founder of FedEx 
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So that's why his offense is never on schedule
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CapnAndy posted:Canada, maybe? Depending on if the Steelers keep fluking into meaningless wins? I was specifically referring to head coaches. Firing coordinators midseason is a standard last-ditch move for a coach on the hot seat to buy themselves time to turn the team around. Canada and Del Rio are definitely on the block.
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Docjowles posted:Man I had forgotten the Broncos had to give up a 1st and a 2nd to land Payton. Jesus. That makes any talk of firing him this year or even over the next few years even more improbable. The status on Payton will remain the same all year. He's not going to get fired and he isn't a factor for the purpose of this thread, but that his team are total dog poo poo is extremely funny and he deserves to be dragged for it at every single opportunity to do so.
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Just a reminder that at this point last season Hackett had twice as many wins as Payton does now.
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I'm feeling pretty good about my "the difference between Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy is better PR" take from the previous thread these days
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eh I still think Peyton's a good coach, he's walking into an absolutely bare cupboard and a significantly worse defensive unit from last year but its good for him to get humbled a bit here
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Relentlessboredomm posted:eh I still think Peyton's a good coach, he's walking into an absolutely bare cupboard and a significantly worse defensive unit from last year but its good for him to get humbled a bit here He spent $250m in the offseason on free agents. The cupboard wasn't entirely bare.
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Diva Cupcake posted:He spent $250m in the offseason on free agents. The cupboard wasn't entirely bare. 80% of that was basically just signing a tackle, guard and DL to replace the tackle, guard and DL they lost in FA. I think Payton taking that job was idiotic and arrogant but the roster is objectively bad and it’s bad in a way that a single offseason of spending couldn’t possible fix. YOLOsubmarine fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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I like that the more desperate the Broncos get, the worse they become. Oh, we haven't had a good QB since Peyton, let's trade for Russ and give him a ridiculous contract. Oh, our coach was a loving embarrassment, let's trade for a proven Super Bowl winning coach.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:80% of that was basically just signing a tackle, guard and DL to replace the tackle, guard and DL they lost in FA. I think it’s funny he has brought in like 10 of his old Saints buddies to play. And also the guys he actively sought out like Perine and Mims are being pushed to the back burner
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YOLOsubmarine posted:80% of that was basically just signing a tackle, guard and DL to replace the tackle, guard and DL they lost in FA. I mean, taking the job for the shitload of money is fine. Promptly issuing public call-outs of the guy you replaced, now that's the idiotic arrogance that blessed us with some fall schadenfreude.
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The funny thing is, Payton was not wrong, Hackett was loving rear end and a garbage HC. But Nathaniel loving Hackett has garnered more respect from the Jets players than Payton has from the Broncos players. The Jets were all "Let's win this for Hackett" while nobody gives a gently caress on the Broncos. It's loving amazing to experience.
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Mega64 posted:The funny thing is, Payton was not wrong, Hackett was loving rear end and a garbage HC. But Nathaniel loving Hackett has garnered more respect from the Jets players than Payton has from the Broncos players. The Jets were all "Let's win this for Hackett" while nobody gives a gently caress on the Broncos. It's loving amazing to experience. Yeah for sure "Hackett was an all time bad head coach" is a correct and inarguable take. But you absolutely CANNOT say that and then lose to him and his notoriously awful backup QB without looking like a complete clown It's like top college programs losing their entire season to a tuneup game vs an FCS cupcake, peak football comedy Docjowles fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Oct 13, 2023 |
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Mega64 posted:I like that the more desperate the Broncos get, the worse they become. Oh, we haven't had a good QB since Peyton, let's trade for Russ and give him a ridiculous contract. Oh, our coach was a loving embarrassment, let's trade for a proven Super Bowl winning coach. Next off season, it'll be all Oh, we have no draft picks. That's ok, Sean Payton can teach us all about mortgaging our cap for the next 20 years to fill out next year's roster. The year after that, they'll be all Oh we have no cap. But we'll able to use some of the draft picks we finally have to offload some of the bad contracts we signed the year before. After that, they'll finally be able to unload Russ and can maybe start the cycle anew.
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I'd be SHOCKED if Russ is the starting QB of the Denver Broncos in week 1 of 2024
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a neat cape posted:I'd be SHOCKED if Russ is the starting QB of the Denver Broncos in week 1 of 2024  That contract's a spicy meatball.
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He may or may not be starting but it's cap suicide to cut him next year and I think the broncos are already projected over the cap for 2024
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Timby posted:
He’s going to be on the team but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be starting. They’re bad enough to be in the hunt for Williams or Maye.
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Timby posted:
He might not be cut, but a rookie is gonna be starting whether Russ is on the roster or not.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:He’s going to be on the team but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be starting. They’re bad enough to be in the hunt for Williams or Maye. I don't think he'll be on the team. His $37m 2025 salary becomes guaranteed if he is. If Russ stinks enough to be benched, he's getting cut and the Broncos are just going to take a brutal dead cap hit next year.
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Kalli posted:I don't think he'll be on the team. His $37m 2025 salary becomes guaranteed if he is. There's also this. The Broncos are going to get hurt badly because of that deal one way or the other, there's no avoiding it
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Their GM should be fired for that Russ contract alone, their garbage drafting is just a bonus. At least Elway could draft defense.
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Kalli posted:I don't think he'll be on the team. His $37m 2025 salary becomes guaranteed if he is. It’s a Sean Payton team now, they’ll just renegotiate his contract to lower the 2025 cap hit in exchange for paying him 10 million a year until 2035.
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Timby posted:
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Just thinking back to the halcyon days of 2022 and those Wilson Subway commercials. Truly those were amazing times.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It’s a Sean Payton team now, they’ll just renegotiate his contract to lower the 2025 cap hit in exchange for paying him 10 million a year until 2035. Denver can start celebrating a lovely Bobby Bonilla Day! He’ll high knee into fans’ hearts yet!
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Mega64 posted:Also we haven't had a proper OP update yet, hoping we get one after this week's games. Should be fun to see where OP stands on certain coaches compared to other media outlets. I was planning to do one this week but came down with the sickness. Next week for sure!
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It owns how the Rams traded for Stafford, immediately won a championship, and then all these other teams tried trading for their own franchise QB and ate poo poo. Copycatting doesn't work!!
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Apparently according to OTC, if the Broncos designate Russ as a post-June 1 cut in 2024, he "just" has a $35,400,000 dead cap hit in 2024 and then would have a pretty hefty hit the next year too of course but it would make it less suicidal to do it. Once they cut Tim Patrick and either extend or re-negotiate like two other guys they'll be under the cap and we can enjoy watching Jarrett Stidham earn his 7m contract.
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SKULL.GIF posted:It owns how the Rams traded for Stafford, immediately won a championship, and then all these other teams tried trading for their own franchise QB and ate poo poo. Not like that’s a new thing and it worked out for Tampa quite well recently as well. In a weird way Denver too, even if P Manning was dead for their actual super bowl winning season, don’t think that could’ve worked with like Kyle Orton manning the helm
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Pontius Pilate posted:Not like that’s a new thing and it worked out for Tampa quite well recently as well. In a weird way Denver too, even if P Manning was dead for their actual super bowl winning season, don’t think that could’ve worked with like Kyle Orton manning the helm Those weren't trades
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SKULL.GIF posted:It owns how the Rams traded for Stafford, immediately won a championship, and then all these other teams tried trading for their own franchise QB and ate poo poo. Pretty sure the Bucs pulled that off first and the Rams are the copycats.
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a neat cape posted:Those weren't trades Fair, and maybe (probably) the bucs wouldn’t have done as well without their first round pick protecting Old Man Brady, but there was still plenty of successful evidence for pursuing older ~franchise quarterbacks~
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Hamhandler posted:I think it depends on what he would want to do. If he's trying to run his defense like his dad without him as GM willing to spend picks on some oddball rear end players I think it's a lot more dubious. "Yeah I could really use this 260 pound run-down only edge with the athletic profile of a 3-technique, we want to convert him to an ILB" probably something a lot of GMs aren't going to be comfortable with. i feel like the defensive side of the ball has been the one part of the pats that hasn't been a fuckin trainwreck and the degree to which steve can replicate that without his dad or his personnel will be interesting to watch i also don't feel like he has that same fascination with being clever that his dad does (or at least the roots of the pats roster construction and playcalling are bill and not steve) and would be happy building a defense full of just good, modern players, but who knows until he's actually out there on his own
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