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The Moon Monster posted:You can tell the new Lords of the Fallen is made by fake gamers. You know how in Dark Souls, you can ride an elevator down, and then before getting off, run over the pressure plate that activates it sending the elevator back up so it's ready in case you die? Can't do that in Lords of the Fallen, a gate slams down the instant an elevator activates and you can't get off of it until it reaches its endpoint. Or maybe they're so good at games they've never died in one? Lords of the Fallen is out? Huh
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah would have been such a cool game mechanic if they just did everything themselves and required nothing of you. Brilliant poo poo dude. There should be a game where you have to actively avoid speaking and helping people because youre just a fuckup that makes everything worse Oh wait thats just my life
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Oct 14, 2023 19:48
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Lords of the Fallen looks like the most aggressively store-brand version of dark souls to exist. I base this on some screenshots and a few seconds of video.
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Oct 14, 2023 20:08
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An easy way to tell if a ~"Soulslike"~ is worth playing, is if the first thing you see when you boot it up is the words "From Software". if it does, you're in the clear. If it doesn't say that, throw it in the loving trash where it belongs.
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Oct 14, 2023 20:12
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veni veni veni posted:An easy way to tell if a ~"Soulslike"~ is worth playing, is if the first thing you see when you boot it up is the words "From Software". if it does, you're in the clear. If it doesn't say that, throw it in the loving trash where it belongs. Look at this guy who missed the boat on Lies of P being better than many Fromsoft Souls games
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Oct 14, 2023 20:56
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Not having wonky hit boxes, mostly shite boss fights, and iframes tied to a stat does put Lies of P above Dark Souls 2 but that's a pretty low bar lol
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Oct 14, 2023 21:18
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Actually, Dark Souls 2 is one of the few Soulslikes that's better than Lies of P.
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Oct 14, 2023 21:21
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Dark Souls 2 is top percentage. Youngster joey Is playing it for sure
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S Tier: Dark souls 2, Demons Souls, Nioh 2 A Tier: Lies of P, Dark Souls 1, Nioh, Mortal Shell B Tier: The Surge 2, Final Fantasy Stranger of Paradise, Sekiro, Arboria C Tier: Bloodborne, Hellpoint, The Surge 1, Elden Ring F Tier: Dark Souls 3, Wo Long, Lords of the Fallen edit: Sekiro would be higher if it wasn't too easy, the world is cool but it's one of those games where if you ignore the "intended" way to play (perfectly timed deflects) and brute force it with blocking and aggression it's a cakewalk. Which I guess is true of pretty much all Soulslikes but Sekiro made it easier than any of the others. And Elden Ring ranks higher on a first playthrough but it sucks for replays/continued co-op after beating it. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Oct 14, 2023 |
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Oct 14, 2023 21:23
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"Boycotting" games made by assholes might have no impact if it's from a AAA studio and minimal impact if it's an indie, but holding off on them to not be part of the problem is cool.
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Oct 14, 2023 21:53
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lmao imagine putting a game with Torrent in it any less than S tier, you'd have to have basically not played the game but I guess this is the right thread for unpopular opinions so carry on
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Oct 14, 2023 23:38
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the best souls-like is probably Subnautica imo, second best would have to be Red Alert 3
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Oct 14, 2023 23:40
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Horses in 3rd person action games loving suck, and actually now that you've reminded me of Elden Ring's horse I'm dropping it to C Tier.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Horses in 3rd person action games loving suck, and actually now that you've reminded me of Elden Ring's horse I'm dropping it to C Tier. just further proving that you didn't even play the game, since Elden Ring doesn't have any horses in it e: This is Torrent, maybe some kind of goat/horse hybrid but definitely not a horse 
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Oct 14, 2023 23:41
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Elden Ring calls Torrent a "spirit steed" and the definition of the word "steed" is "a horse for riding", you're just getting confused because it's a very poor horse model.
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Oct 14, 2023 23:44
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I actually have no idea why but I absolutely hate riding horses in games. RDR2, Witcher 3, Zelda - all very popular games that I didn't find remotely fun, and the only common denominator is the horses. I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima right now and I refuse to use the horse. I didn't use the horse in Elden Ring except for the jump-pads that require it. Something about the lovely mobility and momentum of horses combined with the constant need to swerve around or double back to collect things is one of my least favorite gameplay experiences.
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deep dish peat moss posted:Horses in 3rd person action games loving suck, and actually now that you've reminded me of Elden Ring's horse I'm dropping it to C Tier. wait, so, is Diablo 4 third person?
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Oct 14, 2023 23:50
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I'm not sure because I've somehow managed to avoid seeing any screenshots or videos of Diablo 4.
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Elden Ring is the Ice Ice Baby of video games.
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deep dish peat moss posted:I actually have no idea why but I absolutely hate riding horses in games. RDR2, Witcher 3, Zelda - all very popular games that I didn't find remotely fun, and the only common denominator is the horses. I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima right now and I refuse to use the horse. I didn't use the horse in Elden Ring except for the jump-pads that require it. The three games you mentioned all had terrible horse gameplay because all three tried to make the horse behave like an actual real life animal, that is, a living thing with its own opinion on what it wants to do that you don’t so much drive as you wrangle and cajole it in the general direction of your destination. This might be more “realistic” or “authentic” but as we all know real life sucks. I want my horse to function as a glorified motocross bike with power brakes not a bulky panicky animal that hurts its ankles on gentle slopes and takes 10 seconds to come to a stop.
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Oct 15, 2023 00:10
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elden rings horse is bad because it lets you down during the final boss by not showing up
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QuarkJets posted:just further proving that you didn't even play the game, since Elden Ring doesn't have any horses in it Wow, maybe you didn't play it since Radhan's tiny horse doesn't even count as a horse to you?! Loretta's horse?!?! Guess you didn't get past the tutorial, since you didn't meat the tree sentinels horse? Go back to FIFA and Call of Duty.
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I think Radhan has a donkey
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Elden ring is fukken horse city man
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Disco Pope posted:Wow, maybe you didn't play it since Radhan's tiny horse doesn't even count as a horse to you?! Loretta's horse?!?! Radhan does not have a horse he is clearly riding a mule, IDIOT
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Disco Pope posted:Loretta's horse?!?! No one gives a poo poo about your OC fan fiction
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Oct 15, 2023 00:19
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Ocarina of Time might be the first 3D horse riding experience ever made in a game and it still somehow controls the best.
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I'm going to realpost about Elden Ring It was a fun game to play through for sure and I see why it was the most commercially successful Souls game but the whole open-world thing is just abysmal for replays. The world was fun to explore the first time through but on a replay you know that 90% of the little side locations and dungeons have nothing valuable inside, and there's no particular reason to do them again. So you're left with a giant world where the fun-to-replay parts ("legacy dungeons") are spread out across vast distances. When I've tried replaying it I end up just sprinting past most of the content and beelining to the good parts, and it feels like a poorly-paced Dark Souls. Also in the process of making co-op more accessible it made it incredibly un-fun - almost all of the co-op happens through summoning pools and if you try to be a phantom in a summoning pool you just get summoned to tiny bullshit caves and catacombs with like 4 enemies and an unexciting miniboss in them over and over. You can try doing oldschool sign-dropping co-op but the vast majority of players just grab someone from the summoning pool so depending on your level and etc. it can be very difficult to get traditionally-summoned at places. Then there's password summoning - which is great for co-op with a specific person, but it creates a much larger spread of player levels that thins out the available playerbase for non-password summoning, and that problem is exacerbated by the non-linear structure of the game so there aren't even appropriate summoning level ranges for different areas. All in all it vastly thins out the available playerbase for traditional-type summoning/co-op.
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QuarkJets posted:Radhan does not have a horse he is clearly riding a mule, IDIOT Actual From lore is incredibly deep and it's under debate if its a mule or a horse because they mean different things in Japan
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Elden Ring is high resolution Minecraft without the ability to place blocks.
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if you can't buy horse armor dlc for it, it wasnt a horse
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galagazombie posted:The three games you mentioned all had terrible horse gameplay because all three tried to make the horse behave like an actual real life animal, that is, a living thing with its own opinion on what it wants to do that you don’t so much drive as you wrangle and cajole it in the general direction of your destination. This might be more “realistic” or “authentic” but as we all know real life sucks. I want my horse to function as a glorified motocross bike with power brakes not a bulky panicky animal that hurts its ankles on gentle slopes and takes 10 seconds to come to a stop. Yeah, after I made that post I started thinking about games where I didn't hate riding horses and one that I thought of was World of Warcraft - not to defend WoW as a good game but the horses in that game are literally nothing more than a speed buff applied to the player and horses are totally fine there. No changes to momentum or the way you jump or whatever, you just move faster with the exact same amount of mobility and control you have without the horse.
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repiv posted:elden rings horse is bad because it lets you down during the final boss by not showing up Ahh, just like in Shadow of the Colossus.
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Someone should make a game that does to horse-riding what Death Stranding did to jumping your way up mountains
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deep dish peat moss posted:I'm going to realpost about Elden Ring As I person who only plated the first two DS games, this sounds very much like a niche problem. I couldn't ever imagine finding the hours to replay DS2 that poo poo was huge, so a totally open-ended exploration sounds great. The summoning thing I have no comments on, I pulled the plug when playing so I'd never get anything but NPC ghosts. Yes this is the unpopular opinion thread, why do you ask?
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deep dish peat moss posted:I actually have no idea why but I absolutely hate riding horses in games. RDR2, Witcher 3, Zelda - all very popular games that I didn't find remotely fun, and the only common denominator is the horses. I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima right now and I refuse to use the horse. I didn't use the horse in Elden Ring except for the jump-pads that require it. Sounds like you'd also hate games where you can drive cars, like GTA? Or is it just horses specifically because you're a speciesist?
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I've played through Dark Souls 2 at least 9 times, which is astounding for me because it's pretty rare that I replay a game even once. I bought it 3 times (original on PS3, original on PC, Scholar of the First Sin on PC) and did at least 3 playthroughs each time. It's the only game that I've ever even bought on multiple platforms. Probably my favorite game of all time. One of those playthroughs was after DS3 came out and I thought it was terrible so I decided to go back to the good one after beating it. I did a lot of replays of DS1 too because the old Bottomless Box glitch made it fun as hell to play through as gimmick builds. QuarkJets posted:Sounds like you'd also hate games where you can drive cars, like GTA? Or is it just horses specifically because you're a speciesist? I don't even like cars in real life, much less in video games!! deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Oct 15, 2023 |
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galagazombie posted:The three games you mentioned all had terrible horse gameplay because all three tried to make the horse behave like an actual real life animal, that is, a living thing with its own opinion on what it wants to do that you don’t so much drive as you wrangle and cajole it in the general direction of your destination. This might be more “realistic” or “authentic” but as we all know real life sucks. I want my horse to function as a glorified motocross bike with power brakes not a bulky panicky animal that hurts its ankles on gentle slopes and takes 10 seconds to come to a stop. World of Warcraft has the best mounts in a game. They pop up instantly under your riding them and it steers exactly like your normal movement except faster because literally it does is increase your movement speed, which is what you want. Even flying is the same except you can go up and down too. That's the platonic ideal mount imo. Just make me go faster, not faster and weirder.
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The Moon Monster posted:wait, so, is Diablo 4 third person? I mean, it's not exactly first person. The camera is still top down rather than over the shoulder, if that's what you're imagining.
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deep dish peat moss posted:
I agree, my 100 hour playthrough was a very satisfying experience but I can't fathom the idea of replaying it ever again.
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