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in a pluralized european system 8% is huge, american socialist parties have 0% control of congress
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Frosted Flake posted:Ukraine did it and Biden used the clip of the sirens going off in a campaign ad. Learning from Ukraine war, but only the PR lessons.
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at least she has some power unlike burger person bernie sanders
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Al! posted:in a pluralized european system 8% is huge, american socialist parties have 0% control of congress jesus christ
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What can the US really do with the assets they've got in the area? Sure, they can do air support, but doesn't Israel basically have that covered already? It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks.
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DiscountDildos posted:Wouldn't be surprised if this source isn't reputable but lol and lmao if true Classic sitcom trope where America has a date with two women in the same restaurant at the same time and has to run back and forth between them without them finding out.
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RadiRoot posted:watch him keep confusing them for Iraq If it's Iraq, that's old news, jack. If it's Iran, come on man.
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Pistol_Pete posted:What can the US really do with the assets they've got in the area? Sure, they can do air support, but doesn't Israel basically have that covered already? It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks. The point is to deter any nation that might think genocide is bad from getting involved
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VoicesCanBe posted:I've listened to exactly one episode of that podcast and it was about the non-Nazis who helped the Nazis come to power in Germany. It wasn't all bad, because it correctly puts a lot of the blame on the liberals as well as on Hindenburg, but it also tries to make the SPD out to be perfect saints and of course blames the communists. yeah my understanding is he’s a leftist anarchist so will happily throw shade at communists too but i think al calling him a cia shill might not be accurate so i had to ask
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Rigged Death Trap posted:What us even the point drat Egypt is trying to seal the border. Israel wants to open the border long enough to push the Gazans out permanently.
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Pistol_Pete posted:It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks. Not with that attitude
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We decided Israel wasn't stupid enough so we're sending them 2500 marines.
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Idk if bombing everyone within arm's reach exactly reads as innocent
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cenotaph posted:We decided Israel wasn't stupid enough so we're sending them 2500 marines. lol
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Cold on a Cob posted:yeah my understanding is he’s a leftist anarchist so will happily throw shade at communists too but i think al calling him a cia shill might not be accurate so i had to ask ive heard a lot of his podcast and he presents a certain sanitized view of the cia that they allow out, where they were dragged into various plots via idiocy rather than being the parent of that plot
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:the most ethical man on earth Either way the children are hosed.
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magiccarpet posted:just shooting in every direction just in case I've been thinking about this, and I think basically we see the following through line connecting all of Israel's actions (because they got rocked). Let me know if there's something I left out: Israel's Relentless Aerial Bombardment of Gaza: Deterrence Restoration: After the unexpected success of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood by Hamas, Israel is under pressure to swiftly and decisively restore its deterrence and perceived invincibility. Aerial bombardment projects strength and decisiveness without risking the lives of ground troops. Ground Troop Vulnerability: The recent operation highlighted potential vulnerabilities in Israel's ground defenses. Sending in infantry could risk high casualties, further undermining Israeli morale and regional perception of its military prowess. Minimizing Casualties: Ground operations, especially in densely populated areas like Gaza, can result in high casualties for both the invading force and the civilian population. Aerial bombardments, while still causing casualties, can be perceived as a "safer" military option. Israel's Bombardment of Lebanon and Syria: Pre-emptive Strategy: By striking targets in Lebanon and Syria, Israel aims to preemptively neutralize potential threats from Hezbollah and other allied groups before they can coordinate a multi-front retaliation. This is practical, sure, but also Israel has to be seen doing this for both domestic consumption and a frantic effort to restore deterrence in the region. Message of Strength: Bombarding these regions, regardless of the potential escalation, sends a clear message: Israel is willing to confront all threats simultaneously. Again, the is an imperative for both domestic and regional reasons. Disruption: Israel aims to disrupt any logistical and tactical coordination between Hamas, Hezbollah, and other groups in the region (because they can no longe deter them). U.S. Naval Deployment to the Eastern Mediterranean: Show of Support: Deploying carrier groups is a powerful symbolic gesture, signaling the U.S.'s unwavering support for Israel. Stabilization Effort: The presence of U.S. naval forces serves as a deterrent to further "escalation" by regional actors like Iran or Syria. Israel can no longer deter them, so America has to. America knows Israel will continue to lash out, so someone had to do something to put a lid on the status quo. Evacuation and Humanitarian Reasons: In the event of a full-blown regional conflict, the U.S. would need resources nearby to evacuate American citizens or provide humanitarian assistance. That last one is more of a stated concern than a real one. Guarding Strategic Interests: The Eastern Mediterranean is a region of immense strategic importance, with its proximity to the Suez Canal, a critical chokepoint for global trade. The U.S. aims to ensure the waterway's security and its broader interests in the region. The state of Israel itself is supposed to serve this purpose but in this case they are endangering it, so America had to ensure security of its interests directly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLNvUsTBGyE
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Sherbert Hoover posted:before anyone gets their hopes up, her party won a whopping 8% of the spanish vote Mad?
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Pistol_Pete posted:What can the US really do with the assets they've got in the area? Sure, they can do air support, but doesn't Israel basically have that covered already? It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks. they can give hizbollah the opportunity to do something really funny
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Frosted Flake posted:Okay, so you covertly pay someone to produce propaganda. That means, you know the figures are all bullshit and suit whatever agenda. Because the connection is covert, you can then turn around and present the same figures to a policymaker as impartial, objective information produced from out of house, which half of them think makes it more trustworthy. There's a particularly dangerous kind of (in my experience mostly Conservative) politician who is suspicious of being manipulated by the government, but has trust in everything coming from private sector. in this house we practice decision based evidence making
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Forbes, welcome to the resistance.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:jesus christ shut the gently caress up, you're getting american everywhere
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Israel is setting itself up to have a national tragedy so large the US has no choice but to garrison troops in tel Aviv acre and the golan heights. And once us troops are there, any recourse to the Gaza strip being genocided are gone. Israel has to 'solve' their Gaza question because there's no other way for the government to regain trust of the future settlers if gaza exists. It's completely hosed. But Hamas' did something that Israel wasnt planning for and that is completely destroying it's mandate on protecting its colonizers. They will never regain that trust without complete control of Gaza/West Bank. I
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Cold on a Cob posted:yeah my understanding is he’s a leftist anarchist so will happily throw shade at communists too but i think al calling him a cia shill might not be accurate so i had to ask comedyblissoption posted:
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Pistol_Pete posted:What can the US really do with the assets they've got in the area? Sure, they can do air support, but doesn't Israel basically have that covered already? It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks. threaten anyone else who wants to attack Israel
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Al! posted:ive heard a lot of his podcast and he presents a certain sanitized view of the cia that they allow out, where they were dragged into various plots via idiocy rather than being the parent of that plot One of my favorite btb memories is when he drew a straight line between Mussolini and his eternal enemy, max blumenthal (who has admittedly since gone absolutely insane)
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Pistol_Pete posted:What can the US really do with the assets they've got in the area? Sure, they can do air support, but doesn't Israel basically have that covered already? It's not like they can drive the carriers into Gaza like giant land tanks. You put a bunch of marines in areas where the idf are very likely to accidently friendly fire them and then oh gosh america has no choice but to join in. Drone strikes begin in 5 minutes.
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DiscountDildos posted:Alright, the Twitter and YouTube links are dead but I found a direct link to CGTN thank you much death to Israel death to America
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Death By The Blues posted:more then one source now confirming multiple strikes on Damascus also Egypt said that their side of the Rafah Crossing was bombed by Israeli today Israel seems to be pursuing a longstanding strategy to displace Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, aiming to relocate them to the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt. The logic underpinning this strategy is that the Sinai, being vast and sparsely populated, would be an ideal location to house the Palestinian population. By moving Palestinians there, Israel believes it can resolve the persistent and historical territorial disputes, establishing uninterrupted Israeli sovereignty over the historic lands of Palestine.  However, this plan is met with resistance not only from the Palestinians, who view it as a continuation of the traumatic Nakba, but also from Egypt. The recent construction of a concrete barrier by Egypt can be perceived as a physical manifestation of their opposition. The Egyptians are not simply resisting the influx of Palestinian refugees, but they are aware that aiding in this relocation would bolster Israel's geopolitical strength, potentially at their own expense. The Palestinians' reluctance to move southward from Gaza stems from their historical and emotional ties to their ancestral land, but also from the fear of experiencing another Nakba—a catastrophic event from 1948 where Israeli militias displaced over 750,000 Palestinians. Israel's intent seems clear: the replication of such a strategy, reinforcing an ongoing narrative of settler colonialism and displacement. So, Israel practically bombed Egypt because they're so committed to this goal. Egypt, the one Arab state besides Iraq that proved a match for them, and which rivers of American gold have gone into paying off since the Camp David Accords. Lashing out at Egypt is another pretty big sign that they've lost control of the situation.
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Al! posted:ive heard a lot of his podcast and he presents a certain sanitized view of the cia that they allow out, where they were dragged into various plots via idiocy rather than being the parent of that plot thx, i'll keep this in mind when i listen then. i haven't noticed this but i only started listening to him this year, that's why i asked
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Cold on a Cob posted:I’ve only listened to maybe 20 episodes but I thought behind the bastards loved to talk about the cia and how the USA backs a lot of evil regimes Yeah, that post just not true at all. They've done whole podcasts on just the CIA and various creeps in and around it.
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I would like to thank whomever bought the ad for this thread, should really drive traffic away from the forums with the pro-genocide posters
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Nothus posted:Egypt is trying to seal the border. Israel wants to open the border long enough to push the Gazans out permanently. Opening the border by bombing it.
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Love Rat posted:Yeah, that post just not true at all. They've done whole podcasts on just the CIA and various creeps in and around it. 
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https://twitter.com/GhostOfCade/status/1713980816190062898 lol lmao
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1713811260662255910 
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