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Dokapon Findom posted:Wow didn't take long for the whole rainforest to dry up. Yikes Well now it's just a forest
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Oct 17, 2023 15:21
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fruitweather chat- faster than expected, is starting to hit the core (cool pun) apple crops across new england got f'd right up, weird thaws and then a big regional frost in mid may just wrecked poo poo this year https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/apple-farmers-are-down-but-not-out-for-this-years-harvest/Content?oid=38946040 quote:Now that harvest season has arrived, most of Happy Valley Orchard's 17 acres of apple trees are bare — and McManus isn't alone in that misfortune. Across New England and even into northern Pennsylvania, apple growers are looking at dramatic losses for the 2023 season. These types of operations are going to get hit the hardest, 17 acres of probably 2-3 varieties of one fruit. Folks with many varieties of trees and fruits might at least get to harvest -something- sometimes, instead of looking at 17 acres of trees that produced absolutely nothing this year. quote:University of Vermont Extension tree fruit specialist Terence Bradshaw called the 2023 growing season "just terrible." In addition to the May apple freeze, Vermont's temperatures dipped below negative 17 degrees in February, wiping out most peach crops. The summer's relentless rain didn't help, either. https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistic...ruit-Report.pdf tag urself, I'm the rapidly declining yield per acre of apple trees in VT apatite has issued a correction as of 15:40 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Oct 17, 2023 15:32
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21 species removed from endangered list due to extinction
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Oct 17, 2023 15:41
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Gretas been arrested again but this time in London. https://twitter.com/fossilfreeLDN/status/1714257121452122191?s=20
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Oct 17, 2023 15:43
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ikanreed posted:Well now it's just a forest For now
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Oct 17, 2023 15:59
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Confusedslight posted:Gretas been arrested again but this time in London. Personally, I love to pose with the police constantly for photo ops while the biosphere collapses. 
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Oct 17, 2023 16:06
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Everybody needs a hobby.
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Oct 17, 2023 16:07
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isn't she like 18 or 19 at this point? not like she has any power or influence
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Oct 17, 2023 16:11
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:isn't she like 18 or 19 at this point? not like she has any power or influence 20 according to Google.
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Oct 17, 2023 16:17
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I’m pretty disappointed in her for not fixing this collapsing biosphere thing. she really hosed that up
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Oct 17, 2023 16:55
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kreeningsons posted:weather related impacts. nice quote:* In July, Gerawan [former CEO ousted by Paine Schwartz] filed a lawsuit against Paine Schwartz for allegedly intentionally tanking his former company for financial gain. Gerawan accuses the investment firm of draining over $24 million in cash from the company in less than four years in part to enrich consulting firm McKinsey & Company. OIL PANIC has issued a correction as of 17:21 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Oct 17, 2023 17:17
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that's the wonderful thing about a career in policing - you get to arrest so many interesting people! edit: i'm trying to imagine what greta's experience/ relationship with law enforcement must be like; having 'confronted' them for the better part of her life at this point, and always having been treated with kid gloves due to her media status... OIL PANIC has issued a correction as of 17:25 on Oct 17, 2023 |
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Oct 17, 2023 17:19
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Soggy Muffin posted:Holy poo poo I didn’t know the drought in the Amazon was that bad. Those communities depend on fishing, no clue how they will adapt uh duh its even better now they can just walk the riverbed and pick up the fish!
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Oct 17, 2023 18:09
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Betting on fish instead of oil was a big mistake
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Oct 17, 2023 18:33
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apatite posted:https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistic...ruit-Report.pdf Shuttup and eat your fuckin' blueberries bro
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Oct 17, 2023 19:06
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Soggy Muffin posted:Holy poo poo I didn’t know the drought in the Amazon was that bad. Those communities depend on fishing, no clue how they will adapt the fish certainly didn't
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Oct 17, 2023 19:11
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BrotherJayne posted:Shuttup and eat your fuckin' blueberries bro Maine over there just rubbing their hands together and licking their lips like "gently caress it, we're gonna double the wild blueberry harvest and not cultivate a single other bush" 
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Oct 17, 2023 21:26
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Hubbert posted:Personally, I love to pose with the police constantly for photo ops while the biosphere collapses. Is that another Extinction Rebellion / CIA op Logo looks like they hired the same designer Make sure you turn yourself in after you break the law!
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Oct 17, 2023 22:10
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OIL PANIC posted:not that it contradicts the reality of this situation, but worth noting that the proximate cause of the bankruptcy appears to actually be vulture capitalism, and the fellow that kreeningsons quoted is trying to distract from the fact that he just funneled $24M out of the company prior to declaring bankruptcy. it seems like having a ton of ultra wealthy capitalism vampires floating around and murdering productive useful businesses by sucking out all their blood (money) and leaving a cold husk and a bunch of problems that the vampires just dump onto society is a bad thing, but I don’t have an MBA so I’m not really able to say for sure.
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Oct 17, 2023 22:27
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Stereotype posted:it seems like having a ton of ultra wealthy capitalism vampires floating around and murdering productive useful businesses by sucking out all their blood (money) and leaving a cold husk and a bunch of problems that the vampires just dump onto society is a bad thing, but I don’t have an MBA so I’m not really able to say for sure. The invisible hand of the market shows everyone what is good or bad by giving the good wealth and the bad homelessness. Their ever increasing wealth clearly shows all of us that they're genius paragons of sainthood.
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Oct 17, 2023 22:35
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The visible hand is the capitalist's right hand, shaking hands with the workers of the world The invisible hand is behind his back, fingers crossed.
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Oct 17, 2023 22:50
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BBC Future has an article about aerosol injections https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231010-sun-solar-geoengineering-ministry-for-the-future-kim-stanley-robinson To avert climate disaster, what if one rogue nation dimmed the Sun? I know a lot of posters here have a certain interest in the topic, with the general consensus being "it'll be disastrous" and "we're going to end up doing it". The article also mentions KSR's Ministry of the Future a lot, which posters have read. So, here are some choice quotes for the TLDR-minded. Firstly, what would it involve? There's a few methods quote:Alternative methods of solar geoengineering are all now competing for their moment in the spotlight, from marine cloud brightening (which would inject sea salt aerosols into low-lying clouds to increase their reflectivity), to cirrus cloud thinning (which would inject ice nuclei into high clouds, shortening their life-span and allowing more heat to escape into space). But stratospheric sulphate aerosol injection by aeroplane remains the best-studied proposal for global impact. but one is cheap! (-er than the others) quote:The technology could potentially lower temperatures at speed, and with relatively low finance. One 2013 estimate equates start-up costs to "the price of a Hollywood blockbuster". A more recent calculation of running costs comes in at around $18bn (£16bn) a year. who could pull that off? quote:stratospheric aerosol injection would require "a fleet of several hundred large high-altitude jets of a sort that does not currently exist". These specialist planes would collectively need to release millions of tonnes of chemicals at an altitude of roughly 20km (66,000ft). The only countries that could build such fleets, Smith claims, are the US, UK, France, Russia or China, and potentially Germany or Japan. "No other state is technologically capable, and this is vastly too big for individuals or companies to pursue." what would it do? To sum it up, quote:What there is, Rosenlof stresses, is "a lot of uncertainty". but there have been some studies: quote:To date, models and simulations show that stratospheric aerosol injection could impact everything from the position of the jet stream to causing regional droughts. One study has noted a potential for extended Arctic summer sea ice loss, while another points to a "considerable reduction" in monsoon precipitation. And, even if deployed consistently, crops could still suffer. quote:Among the most potentially consequential effects is damage to the atmosphere's protective ozone layer. would it fix everything about CO2 emissions? no: quote:The technology would also do nothing to stop rising CO2 concentrations from acidifying the oceans. there is a case for it, that it buys us time to decarbonise (lol lmao etc), but some offer caution: quote:"The worst-case scenario for the deployment of geoengineering," he says, "is that you have it and then business as usual just continues with investment in fossil fuels and their infrastructure – and emissions continue to rise." You'd then have to keep increasing the injections, he argues, which would only exacerbate the risks. quote:the side-effects are unpredictable, the current global governance system is "incapable" of guaranteeing fair and effective control, and that development might encourage "normalisation" of the technology as part of the world's climate policy. Its cooling effect could create a "moral hazard", numerous researchers and civil society organisations warn, by taking pressure off efforts to cut the underlying CO2 emissions. and if we stop: quote:Particulates fall back to Earth after about 12 months, so too short a run-time could only see minimal cooling effect. But if longer releases end too abruptly, a "termination shock" could also follow – unleashing devastating pent-up warming from emissions whose effects have only been masked and not removed. some think it should be nipped in the bud: quote:This January, more than 440 scientists signed an open letter calling for a non-use agreement on solar geoengineering – including for small-scale outdoor experiments, like the unauthorised test conducted by a San Francisco start-up in Mexico earlier this year. but what if a nation went alone and did it anyway? quote:"If the majority of countries object to the deployment… the political cost for any country to do it unilaterally is extremely high." but what if a global consensus on pressing ahead could be reached? get your sad lols ready for this paragraph: quote:there might come a scenario where deployment serves a majority of interests. The "most plausible scenario" for deployment, he suggests, is an escalating climate emergency leading to mass global migration from south to north, with the north unwilling to provide the relief the south needs. and that's about all the interesting bits from that article.
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Oct 17, 2023 22:54
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Pretending to have never done this exact thing with chemtrails... smdh
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Oct 17, 2023 23:01
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It will be done to preserve the market so that the market can sort this whole mess out
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Oct 17, 2023 23:09
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it was kind of cold today ngl
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Oct 17, 2023 23:41
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Did Lula take all the water for his car wash?
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Oct 17, 2023 23:57
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geoengineering like aerosol injection is most likely to come from a couple billionaires than a nation
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Oct 18, 2023 00:18
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:geoengineering like aerosol injection is most likely to come from a couple billionaires than a nation no way they pay for that, it's an externality the responsibility of society.
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Oct 18, 2023 00:28
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Stereotype posted:I don’t have an MBA blocked, ignored, a mere imposter at the gates to the altar of number
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Oct 18, 2023 01:50
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:geoengineering like aerosol injection is most likely to come from a couple billionaires than a nation Nah they'll just buy up all the land where people could potentially live in climate hell world Can't wait to see Antarctica's first condo development go up
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Oct 18, 2023 02:10
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Car Hater posted:Nah they'll just buy up all the land where people could potentially live in climate hell world
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Oct 18, 2023 02:15
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you thought our incidental geoengineering hosed things up wait until we start doing it deliberately
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Oct 18, 2023 03:43
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being forced to dim the sky slightly more each year at greater and greater cost until all our efforts are spent keeping the sky black as night until our resources are completely expended and the planet’s temperature shoots up 15C in a month, killing everything. that sounds super realistic. way more realistic than us ever curbing CO2 emissions.
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Oct 18, 2023 03:52
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Stereotype posted:being forced to dim the sky slightly more each year at greater and greater cost until all our efforts are spent keeping the sky black as night until our resources are completely expended and the planet’s temperature shoots up 15C in a month, killing everything. that sounds super realistic. way more realistic than us ever curbing CO2 emissions. wondering how many years until we are forced to accept this as the only option
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Oct 18, 2023 03:53
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Rock Puncher posted:wondering how many years until we are forced to accept this as the only option  https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2212/2212.04474.pdf
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Oct 18, 2023 03:56
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:geoengineering like aerosol injection is most likely to come from a couple billionaires than a nation aerosol injection also likely fucks up rainfall in central asia, and the Chinese will not stand for that
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Oct 18, 2023 04:49
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not gonna read that whole article but some bangers in there quote:the only IPCC scenarios that would phase down human-made climate change amount to “a miracle will occur.” but also on the flipside quote:First, a rising global price on GHG emissions must underly energy and climate policies so you want to tax carbon? but have you considered quote:One gallon (3.6 liters) of gasoline (petrol) provides the work equivalent of more than 400 hours labor by a healthy adult. These benefits – not evil business executives – are the basic reason for continued emissions. sounds like you want to hurt productivity:cost ratios, something which business executives may not like quote:these changes will not happen with the current geopolitical approach, but current political crises present an opportunity for reset, especially if young people can grasp their situation. vote for carbon tax everybody
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Oct 18, 2023 05:55
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"One gallon offsets 400 hours of work" what the hell, it doesn't take me 400 hours to mow my lawn a few times with the roller clipper, and it sure as hell doesn't take 400 hours to walk 50 miles even in the worst of conditions. Whatever math they're using is bogus on its face or the result of some exceptional cherry picking
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Oct 18, 2023 06:07
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Potato Salad posted:"One gallon offsets 400 hours of work" what the hell, it doesn't take me 400 hours to mow my lawn a few times with the roller clipper, and it sure as hell doesn't take 400 hours to walk 50 miles even in the worst of conditions. drat what if you considered energy slaves to be labour in this house, we respect the finite limits of fossil fuels and what they grant us 
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Oct 18, 2023 06:15
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Hubbert posted:drat what if you considered energy slaves to be labour that was a good click
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Oct 18, 2023 06:34
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