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Potato Salad posted:What's the name of the feature Google developed that basically creates integrity signals for advertisement-enforced browsing clients? Web Environment Integrity.
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there are also the related google products of FLOC (federated learning of cohorts),Topics, and “privacy sandbox”
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Oct 18, 2023 06:52
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Jabor posted:sometimes, someone makes good videos and you want to see the next one in your subscriptions view instead of having to rely on it bubbling to the top of the algorithmically generated froth i add the channels i like to my rss reader. don't need to visit youtube, nor log in and occasionally itll pick up something that the author accidentally published and then removed
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Oct 18, 2023 08:09
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Progressive JPEG posted:and occasionally itll pick up something that the author accidentally published and then removed heh remember when thomas ptacek hit publish on his blog post draft that he meant to hold until kaminsky disclosed his big DNS bug and then a bunch of sec nerds pulled it out of their RSS readers
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Oct 18, 2023 08:31
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Progressive JPEG posted:what sort of dweeb visits youtube logged in lmao what sort of dweeb visits youtube not logged in? i get only ever clicking embeds, but why would you go to youtube.com otherwise? to see the wall of suggestions that you watch some joe rogan? to use the search that is way worse than just googling?
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Oct 18, 2023 11:38
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Shaggar posted:https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity more like NO integrity
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Oct 18, 2023 12:27
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web enshittified adtegrity
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Oct 18, 2023 12:50
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my youtube recs are completely schizo cause its logged in at my parents house & my dad uses it to watch instant karma and blooper reels, my sister uses it to put on childrens songs, my nephews watch danish minecraft players, and i put on 90s music & comedy clips
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Oct 18, 2023 14:09
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sb hermit posted:why are you logged in while using an ad blocker? Because i want to check out my subscriptions while also not getting blasted with ads
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Oct 18, 2023 14:21
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:what sort of dweeb visits youtube not logged in? i get only ever clicking embeds, but why would you go to youtube.com otherwise? to see the wall of suggestions that you watch some joe rogan? to use the search that is way worse than just googling? my favorite thing about youtube search is how it's bad but still better than google's video search, which is nearly useless like i gotta assume that's some preemptive antitrust thing where they can't make it look like they're giving preference to youtube results despite you pretty much wanting to find youtube results 95% of the time you're doing a video search but it's still funny to me every time how loving bad it is
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Oct 18, 2023 14:27
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lol i got my first fake phishing email at work. all the link validation bullshit our mail server adds to every URL actually made it a tiny bit hard to figure out cuz all the URL's were buried under layers of that crap also i feel like sending it from the actual IT at companyname email account is kinda cheating but whatever
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Oct 18, 2023 14:39
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Shame Boy posted:lol i got my first fake phishing email at work. all the link validation bullshit our mail server adds to every URL actually made it a tiny bit hard to figure out cuz all the URL's were buried under layers of that crap our work uses knowb4 for that and it adds a line to the header that states it's a phishing test, which is pretty lol.
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Oct 18, 2023 14:43
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Neito posted:our work uses knowb4 for that and it adds a line to the header that states it's a phishing test, which is pretty lol. idk what we use but when i hit the report button i got a popup window that just contained the plain text "CONGRATULATIONS YOU PASSED THE PHISHING TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" which stuck around for all of 2 seconds before auto-closing, which is a p good prize imo
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Oct 18, 2023 14:46
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Neito posted:our work uses knowb4 for that and it adds a line to the header that states it's a phishing test, which is pretty lol. yea i filtered everything with an X-HoxHunt-Organization-ID or whatever header to a separate folder so i can knock em out at my leisure
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Oct 18, 2023 14:53
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Shame Boy posted:idk what we use but when i hit the report button i got a popup window that just contained the plain text "CONGRATULATIONS YOU PASSED THE PHISHING TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" which stuck around for all of 2 seconds before auto-closing, which is a p good prize imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_lVSrPB6w
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Oct 18, 2023 15:59
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Shame Boy posted:idk what we use but when i hit the report button i got a popup window that just contained the plain text "CONGRATULATIONS YOU PASSED THE PHISHING TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" which stuck around for all of 2 seconds before auto-closing, which is a p good prize imo
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Oct 18, 2023 16:02
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Shame Boy posted:idk what we use but when i hit the report button i got a popup window that just contained the plain text "CONGRATULATIONS YOU PASSED THE PHISHING TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" which stuck around for all of 2 seconds before auto-closing, which is a p good prize imo hot dog! you're a wiener!
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Oct 18, 2023 16:04
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mystes posted:normal people log in and subscribe to channels. people in this thread are just weird mfs log into an internet forum they only read through bookmarks and ponder why would anyone subscribe to a youtube channel
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Oct 18, 2023 16:25
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"Be sure to like and subscribe!" You can't tell me what to do!
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Oct 18, 2023 16:38
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Shame Boy posted:i mean i kinda get being against The Algorithm just showing you increasingly crazy stuff cuz it drives engagement or whatever but the subscriptions function is literally just "show me a list in reverse chronological order of videos posted by specifically and only these people". staying logged out doesn't protect you from The Algorithm showing you stupid engagement-farming poo poo it just ensures that The Algorithm will exclusively show you the stupidest and most offensive engagement-farming poo poo that the dumbest people imaginable fall for
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Oct 18, 2023 16:40
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Shame Boy posted:i mean i kinda get being against The Algorithm just showing you increasingly crazy stuff cuz it drives engagement or whatever but the subscriptions function is literally just "show me a list in reverse chronological order of videos posted by specifically and only these people". Not quite. Videos that perform poorly via the algorithm compared to other videos on the channel will not be displayed in your subscriptions. I'm talking like 100 views total compared to 100,000+ views normally though, so usually stuff that is completely unrelated to their normal content that you may not care for anyway.
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Oct 18, 2023 21:30
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mystes posted:normal people log in and subscribe to channels. people in this thread are just weird
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Oct 19, 2023 01:22
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I literally do not use YouTube unless someone sends me a video and I’ll only watch if it doesn’t feature a ‘content creator’s face The internet sucks
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i am a moron posted:I literally do not use YouTube unless someone sends me a video and I’ll only watch if it doesn’t feature a ‘content creator’s face username/post combo
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the only "e-video" i will ever watch is that telnet server that played ASCII star wars, everything else is just decadence
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polyester concept posted:username/post combo Shut up Paul you probably looove content creators
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:what sort of dweeb visits youtube not logged in? i get only ever clicking embeds, but why would you go to youtube.com otherwise? Someone who doesn’t want YT to track my watch history (as easily). I have my browser set to block all YouTube and Google cookies entirely. As for why go there: I mostly use it as a music player.
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Oct 19, 2023 03:17
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i use ephemeral tabs in firefox, so not only am i never logged in, but google also has no way to use browser persistence for tracking. my youtube suggestions are universally poo poo that is of no interest to me
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Oct 19, 2023 03:23
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Neito posted:our work uses knowb4 for that and it adds a line to the header that states it's a phishing test, which is pretty lol. If you're looking at headers, you're not the target audience.
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youtube suggestions are come ons from streetwalkers. subscriptions are visiting a brothel. today at the grocery store I saw a wall of beef jerky or some hyper processed food like substance with a phalanx of mr beast faces staring back at me. these two statements may be related.
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Midjack posted:youtube suggestions are come ons from streetwalkers. subscriptions are visiting a brothel. I guess I like to gently caress because I subscribe to a lot of brothels, and like to gently caress random street walkers that look fun.
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Oct 19, 2023 04:46
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Midjack posted:youtube suggestions are come ons from streetwalkers. subscriptions are visiting a brothel. that's very insightful mr. durden, can I join your meninist cult?
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Volmarias posted:I guess I like to gently caress because I subscribe to a lot of brothels, and like to gently caress random street walkers that look fun. do you like to gently caress mr. beast, though
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nudgenudgetilt posted:i use ephemeral tabs in firefox, so not only am i never logged in, but google also has no way to use browser persistence for tracking. my youtube suggestions are universally poo poo that is of no interest to me do you also use a new ip every time? because if not, of course they track you
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ymgve posted:do you also use a new ip every time? because if not, of course they track you sure, they can also likely get a good fingerprint from my browser. that's why i was specific about the form of tracking. at a minimum they don't suggest anything close to what i actually watch on youtube. i see mr beast all over the front page when i mostly watch pinball videos
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Since this derail is still going I'll add how I do it. i use youtube logged in, but I have the watch history disabled. I have lots of channels I'm subscribed to with topics ranging from news & current events, geopolitics, electronics, appliance repair, space, cooking, whisky and other spirits, automotive diagnostics & maintenance, old car revival (like VGG), science & mathematics, history, etc, etc. basically a well curated list that reflects my interests. i watch these channels mostly on my TV, an LG OLED which, and this is the crucial bit, I've jailbroken so that it runs Youtube Adfree, a customized youtube app that has ad blocking and sponsorblock built in. Having a well-curated stream of content that you can watch on a big screen without ads, without much or any "for you" recommendations of clickbait soyface crap, and even skipping the ads that are in the video itself, is such a different experience from how youtube normally is. it's wonderful.
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Oct 19, 2023 05:59
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The cross-platform ID stuff also uses user agent info like browser version, patching levels for libraries, screen resolution, etc. It's actually kind of insane to a level where one might reasonably be like "why would they possibly bother for the .001% increase in tracking performance", but I guess the point is that that's someone's entire loving job and you go a little bananas if you stare at the problem for a year or 10.
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Mirconium posted:The cross-platform ID stuff also uses user agent info like browser version, patching levels for libraries, screen resolution, etc. It's actually kind of insane to a level where one might reasonably be like "why would they possibly bother for the .001% increase in tracking performance", but I guess the point is that that's someone's entire loving job and you go a little bananas if you stare at the problem for a year or 10. To be fair, we don't know Google does this. It's just extremely likely.
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Oct 19, 2023 06:07
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The fight was lost decades ago and they track you whether you want it or not. I don't log in on youtube, because I have no reason to (I don't like, subscribe or comment). I mainly click on links that posters in the metal thread post and sometimes I search for things. But they know exactly who I am, what I watch and what I want. And in the rare cases I go to the youtube frontpage, that's exactly what they show. I gave up on bothering to "hide" from them since I have no chance of winning that war. The adblocker though, that stays. Luckily the ublock origin dude is awesome and he keeps the fight going. I hope they won't kill him off, or worse, buy him.
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Midjack posted:youtube suggestions are come ons from streetwalkers. subscriptions are visiting a brothel. and joining the patreon is like keeping a mistress!
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