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OwlFancier posted:For clarity the UK related stuff is obviously open for discussion as yeah it's clearly UK politics. The entire UK establishment is currently supporting a genocide of Palestine. What if I have nightmares about the one thread where we would be able to talk about that, we now can't talk about that?
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Oct 19, 2023 18:32
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To be fair I don't think the topic is completely off the table, just the slapfight over whether the warcrimes brigade did the war crime or not. Stuff like gove's unhinged attempted to making not sucking Bibi's dick treason is definitely allowed to be mentioned.
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Oct 19, 2023 18:36
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It’s pretty funny that Israeli minister’s attacking the BBC when everything I’ve seen from them is bending over backwards to justify genocide.
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Oct 19, 2023 18:38
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ro5s posted:It’s pretty funny that Israeli minister’s attacking the BBC when everything I’ve seen from them is bending over backwards to justify genocide. It will never be enough. If the BBC perfectly matched their views, that would simply be a signal to move further right. Brendan Rodgers fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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Oct 19, 2023 18:42
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kinda hoping this might break the fever in this country of bootlicking Israel given even in Israel Bibi is getting poo poo for loving up so bad
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Oct 19, 2023 18:45
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yeah if you cba to properly man your insane IoT barrier you've constructed around the people you've kept penned in a ghetto for a generation then that's really on you isn't it
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Oct 19, 2023 18:48
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ro5s posted:It’s pretty funny that Israeli minister’s attacking the BBC when everything I’ve seen from them is bending over backwards to justify genocide. Private Eye was also being attacked this morning on Twitter for daring to imply with this headline that UK media outlets are being pressured to support Israel's actions uncritically (which is of course a baseless smear and not being stated openly in press conferences or anything like that) https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/1714545102977421797
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Oct 19, 2023 18:53
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George Bush dropping the ball so bad 9/11 happened but also instead of invading Afghanistan he bombs a hospital in Michigan.
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Oct 19, 2023 18:53
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grobbo posted:Private Eye was also being attacked this morning on Twitter for daring to imply with this headline that UK media outlets are being pressured to support Israel's actions uncritically (which is of course a baseless smear and not being stated openly in press conferences or anything like that) This was really funny because after spending 4 years calling Corbyn the second coming of Hitler they espouse the exact same opinion he had and are now being called anti-Semites.
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Oct 19, 2023 18:54
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Brendan Rodgers posted:The entire UK establishment is currently supporting a genocide of Palestine. What if I have nightmares about the one thread where we would be able to talk about that, we now can't talk about that? I think that is within the remit of UKMT, I'm not going to tell you not to talk about it. But I think the specifics of things that happen in Israel/Palestine would fall under that thread's remit, or be something that could be discussed with people over PMs, and I don't see what is especially served by talking about them in UKMT if it's making the thread miserable for Miftan and if several other posters would prefer it be done in I/P. I think a number of UKMT posters also post in I/P so you would quite possibly even be talking about it with the same people. I ask because I think the reason people asked me to be IK in the first place was to try and make sure the thread is somewhere people would want to spend time, and I am only agreeing to do the role with that goal in mind. And I hope that I can do it just by asking people to think about the other people who participate in the thread regularly. I think everyone who posts in the thread regularly would agree with you that the UK's position is abhorrent and you absolutely do not have to entertain other people trying to argue that it isn't, in the event such a person were to materialize. But generally, the UKMT is a difficult thread to read sometimes, I wasn't joking when I said it was depressing, we live in a miserable country with a lovely loving government, facing a horrific future. But a lot of people do read the thread a lot regardless. I already worry a lot about how that makes people feel and just the burden everyone living in this godawful country has to carry around with them, particularly those of us who find ourselves so utterly ostracised from the cultural mainstream in the things we want for the world and for other people. So if a specific topic might fit better in another thread and would make the thread a little less miserable for people who might depend on it in some way, to feel a bit less isolated in the shithole we're stuck in, I would hope you would agree with taking it there. Regardless of what the mods say I don't have any moral authority to make you do anything, I'm asking on the basis that I hope people will just give a poo poo about the other people who post here of their own volition, all I am willing to do is appeal to that.
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Oct 19, 2023 18:58
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So what you're saying is, car park at half seven?
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Oct 19, 2023 19:00
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I/P TikTok 'Influencer' tells how she was asked by prospective sponsors to say she did not support Palestine or she would lose the deal - she refused: (tweet) https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1715028823505264898?s=20 Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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Oct 19, 2023 19:01
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Yeah see that's relevant, it's a British lass and influencer saying she was offered mucho spendo to say she supports Israel.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:03
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crispix posted:it affects people here too and there are protests everywhere because of it Yeah that stuff is all fine with me, but "well here's MY EVIDENCE that HAMAS BEHEADED 40 BABIES!!" is.. not appropriate for this thread because it isn't really UK related. Brendan Rodgers posted:The entire UK establishment is currently supporting a genocide of Palestine. What if I have nightmares about the one thread where we would be able to talk about that, we now can't talk about that? Like I said, the topic isn't out of bounds, nor would I try to dictate that sort of stuff, but arguing about who bombed that specific hospital and if specific war crimes are justified or not (when they have nothing to do with the UK) is already incredibly hard for me to read, and I like hanging out in the UKMT to avoid that exact discussion that I have on a daily basis already. OwlFancier posted:I think that is within the remit of UKMT, I'm not going to tell you not to talk about it. But I think the specifics of things that happen in Israel/Palestine would fall under that thread's remit, or be something that could be discussed with people over PMs, and I don't see what is especially served by talking about them in UKMT if it's making the thread miserable for Miftan and if several other posters would prefer it be done in I/P. I think a number of UKMT posters also post in I/P so you would quite possibly even be talking about it with the same people. As usual, Owlie is far more eloquent than I am. If people feel incredibly strongly about discussing the specifics of warcrimes in this thread, I will just bow out of the thread until the end of the current active hostilities. Jaeluni Asjil posted:I/P So for example this sort of thing is perfectly fine with me. I know it's a delicate tightrope act to ask for from people who aren't as immersed in the whole thing, so I'm happy to compromise and just ask for I/P stuff that isn't directly UK related to just be spoilered if you really must talk about it here.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:04
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wait, this isn't the uncomfortable konversations mega thread?
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Oct 19, 2023 19:05
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yeah, i've tried not posting anything about it unless it relates directly to UK stuff, and not much even then, because jesus christ is the whole situation loving grim, but sunak just jumping in headfirst on the 'this is a struggle between pure good and absolute evil' more even than the americans is... i don't even have the loving words fuctifino posted:Getting the thread back on track: quote:The government has criticised two Labour-led councils for boycotting Israel and some in the Conservative party hoped the bill would divide the Labour party. However, several senior Tories have also spoken out against it and are warning that it could inflame tensions between Jewish and Muslim communities already heightened by war in the Middle East. no 10: this will cause some internal division within labor and potentially increase our chances of holding on to power by a fraction of a percent 
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Oct 19, 2023 19:08
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I/P Was getting a lot of unsubtle propaganda on YT Shorts the past few days, i just hit the DNR button and moved on. 
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Oct 19, 2023 19:09
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Miftan posted:So for example this sort of thing is perfectly fine with me. I know it's a delicate tightrope act to ask for from people who aren't as immersed in the whole thing, so I'm happy to compromise and just ask for I/P stuff that isn't directly UK related to just be spoilered if you really must talk about it here. I'm new here and don't speak for anyone but yeah, I think your distinction makes sense and your request isn't onerous. If we can't agree on simple ways of being kind to each other, the misery devours us all.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:11
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grobbo posted:I'm new here and don't speak for anyone but yeah, I think your distinction makes sense and your request isn't onerous. If we can't agree on simple ways of being kind to each other, the misery devours us all. You should post more, especially if you're agreeing with me. 
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Oct 19, 2023 19:13
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I'm sorry Miftan.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:22
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aye I like to be able to pick and choose my flavours of misery sometimes, really focus on the individual nuances of the collapse without it all merging into one horrific unending nightmare if I want that, I can take a stroll outside
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Oct 19, 2023 19:31
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Tesseraction posted:So what you're saying is, car park at half seven? What if we et chocolate oranges by the trolley returns?
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Oct 19, 2023 19:33
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Miftan posted:You should post more, especially if you're agreeing with me. Long-time lurker dropping in to say you've always seemed like a decent, level-headed poster. Stay safe dude. Even if you are wrong about chocolate oranges.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:46
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Oct 19, 2023 19:55
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Monica Bellucci posted:What if we et chocolate oranges by the trolley returns? Haha just kidding.. unless..? Anyway it's very heartening to hear the silent majority of the ukmt are behind me in non-food related matters. This definitely won't become a regular part of my thread rhetoric
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Oct 19, 2023 19:58
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I like chocolate oranges, and also chocolate flavour with orange flavour generall
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Oct 19, 2023 20:02
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Look I've said this a million times, artificial fruit flavouring and chocolate don't go together. Sorry. Chocolate dipped strawberries? Excellent, scrumptious, no notes. Strawberry flavoured chocolate, or worse, those strawberry cream things? Terrible, wouldn't feed it a terf, please stop making them. This is true of every fruit flavoured chocolate (yes, even that one that you're thinking of. Especially if it's mint!) Also a hot dog is a sandwich and the best way to eat a pizza is to calzone it.
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Oct 19, 2023 20:05
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Miftan posted:Look I've said this a million times, artificial fruit flavouring and chocolate don't go together. Sorry. Chocolate dipped strawberries? Excellent, scrumptious, no notes. Strawberry flavoured chocolate, or worse, those strawberry cream things? Terrible, wouldn't feed it a terf, please stop making them. 
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Oct 19, 2023 20:10
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Labour slowly having to square the circle of "everything Jeremy Corbyn is bad" with "maybe bootlicking an ethnofascist apartheid state is anathema to our ethnic minority voters"
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Oct 19, 2023 20:13
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they doing mint oranges this year i noticed
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Oct 19, 2023 20:13
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mint chocolate is bangin' in the right ratio
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Oct 19, 2023 20:13
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Miftan posted:Look I've said this a million times, artificial fruit flavouring and chocolate don't go together. Sorry. Chocolate dipped strawberries? Excellent, scrumptious, no notes. Strawberry flavoured chocolate, or worse, those strawberry cream things? Terrible, wouldn't feed it a terf, please stop making them. Chemical flavour and actual flavour are different, yes, but strawberry anything can gently caress completely off. Pretty much everything ending in -berry* can gently caress off, except for that blue Mr Freeze which was raspberry, apparently? *No, not Matt or Chuck, I'm not that sort of silly.
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Oct 19, 2023 20:14
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strawberry 'liquorice' is godly tho
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Oct 19, 2023 20:14
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Monica Bellucci posted:*No, not Matt or Chuck, I'm not that sort of silly. "Chuck! Chuck! It's your cousin Your cousin, Matt Berry! Yeeesssss Yesssssssss Yeeaaahssssss"
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Oct 19, 2023 20:15
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Sorry Miftan, I hit post and found out there was a poo poo load other posts made since then. I'd much rather post with you about chocolate oranges than atrocities overseas. As an aside, I work at a software consultancy and I've found out that one of the client's programmers is still active on Teams a) at midnight, and b) while sick with COVID. Feels bad, man.
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Oct 19, 2023 20:16
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Strawberry and white chocolate Lindt balls are mana sent from the heavens and I would attack and dethrone god to keep them in this world.
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Oct 19, 2023 20:18
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i have made myself feel like poo poo over the last couple days reading too many posts about I/P so i can't imagine how it must feel for someone so closely connected to it so with that in mind: i think mint aero is really good
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Oct 19, 2023 20:21
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Love a good strawberry cream but coffee creams are better.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Strawberry and white chocolate Lindt balls are mana sent from the heavens and I would attack and dethrone god to keep them in this world. White chocolate is great, yes.
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