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Viller posted:Where? They seem to have lost ground they had gained on the flanks of Avdiivka from what Im seeing. Were you not here for the previous fifty times they took some ground, baited a counterattack then retreated and shelled the poo poo out of the Ukrainian troops who obligingly left their fortifications to pursue the dream of elan?
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Oct 19, 2023 23:35
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Just remembered "Elan Kursk" lol
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Oct 19, 2023 23:38
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Oct 19, 2023 23:39
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it won’t be long until ukraine is firing only dozens of shells a day
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Oct 19, 2023 23:45
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Jel Shaker posted:it won’t be long until ukraine is firing only dozens of shells a day just imagine the roi
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Oct 19, 2023 23:50
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Viller posted:Where? They seem to have lost ground they had gained on the flanks of Avdiivka from what Im seeing. most reports are that they are attacking opportunistically and re-taking ground pretty much across the front... South of Orikhiv, around Avdiivka and Bakhmut, and further north towards Torske and Kupyansk. Neither side wants to really concentrate a huge quantity of force that would be required for the big piercing breakthrough because when you start gathering troops and armor that's when things start getting blown up. What you're going to get is these little skirmish battles where Russia slowly turns up the temperature on Ukraine in multiple different places. If they can force Ukraine to re-distribute their soldiers from one area of the front to the other (as seems to have happened recently in Avdiivka) opportunities present themselves for inflicting attrition on the Ukrainian reserves moving up to the front while simultaneously more opportunities can open up in other locations to for Russia to start pressuring for a break down in the Ukrainian front. **I will say I am operating from the assumption that Russia has actually gained superiority in numbers of troops available for combat in Ukraine as a result of their mobilization drive of 2022 and the reported numbers of volunteers and contract soldiers they have gathered in 2023, as well as reports from even Ukrainian sources speculating on the strength of the Russian army in Ukraine. The reports that I'm seeing seem to suggest that Russia feels that Ukraine has effectively ended their spring / summer offensive and now is the time for Russia to try it's strategy to change the circumstances on the ground in Ukraine. Starsfan has issued a correction as of 00:06 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 00:00
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Starsfan posted:most reports are that they are attacking opportunistically and re-taking ground pretty much across the front... South of Orikhiv, around Avdiivka and Bakhmut, and further north towards Torske and Kupyansk. Quite the 4D chess move to want to lose 70 tanks to just shell infantry.
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Oct 20, 2023 00:07
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Viller posted:Quite the 4D chess move to want to lose 70 tanks to just shell infantry. huh?
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Oct 20, 2023 00:09
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Viller posted:Quite the 4D chess move to want to lose 70 tanks to just shell infantry. Spending metal to not expand flesh is the point of tanks yeah.
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Oct 20, 2023 00:11
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CODChimera posted:huh? confused d&d poster wandered in
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Oct 20, 2023 00:14
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Danann posted:Spending metal to not expand flesh is the point of tanks yeah. Theres folks in those tanks that took way longer to train then foot soldiers....
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Oct 20, 2023 00:14
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All these "hahaha dumb russian conscripts" jokes would pack more punch a week ago before Israel put on a demonstration of what a trained professional army is capable of.
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Oct 20, 2023 00:19
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Weka posted:
Other places like the abbasid caliphate and eastern roman empire had golden ages during the supposed dark ages. Its why academics are rejecting the term whole sale and preferring late antiquity. The term "dark ages" was limited in scope and usefulness, was too eurocentric. It's a proper corrective measure, especially since places not in northwestern europe were advancing all the sciences and contributing to the sum total of human knowledge. This isn't to deny that places formerly known as the (western) roman empire didn't decline. That stuff also did happen. "The Classics" were being translated, disseminated and debated in these eastern spheres before the italian renaissance. Huge advances in medicine and mathematics were occuring. It's more than just inventions of new ploughs, ya loving doof.
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Oct 20, 2023 00:22
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Viller posted:Theres folks in those tanks that took way longer to train then foot soldiers.... i think you should be cautious at buying into narratives that Russia is wasting thousands of lives trying to move forward. There's been a lot of that propaganda going around from both sides and it's not matched by the reporting of people who have actually witnessed these operations as they are happening on the ground. Both sides move forward cautiously in a way that is calculated to minimize the loss at the cost of giving up the chance for the big showy triumph... It's going to be a real slog before anything resembling a victor arises.. or Ukraine could be cut off from funding by the US and fold like a paper bag before the year is out. Hard to say right at this moment lol
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Oct 20, 2023 00:24
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Viller posted:Theres folks in those tanks that took way longer to train then foot soldiers.... And Mediazona could only like 686 tankers dead with the vast bulk happening last year. Only slightly more dangerous than special forces and artilleryists, and definitely less deadly than infantry.
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Oct 20, 2023 00:25
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To add to that: I have seen some Russian AFV losses, I have also seen plenty of claims of random tanks sitting around with crew still on them as "losses" as well. It is the same old Oryx stuff; the Russians take some losses and then they multiple them to sound impressive. The Russians can lose some tanks, train some more crew, and keep on sapping the Ukrainian's manpower because they have such an artillery advantage. The Ukrainians are rushing in men that are "disposable" except the Ukrainian government has made it clear they have real recruitment issues. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 00:39 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 00:35
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WoodrowSkillson posted:they've gotten their asses kicked a lot in this war, this is hardly surprising. only question is if they are overcommiting and losing troops that can't afford to, or if their defensive lines are still at full strength This is true and I still think in the very long run Russia will grind out a bloody victory in a terrible war, but they do have to go on the offensive to accomplish that and it seems they're about as capable of that as Ukraine at the moment (aka not very)
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Oct 20, 2023 00:50
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Slavvy posted:Were you not here for the previous fifty times they took some ground, baited a counterattack then retreated and shelled the poo poo out of the Ukrainian troops who obligingly left their fortifications to pursue the dream of elan? Yeah tbh they've done this consistently the entire 20 months and Ukrainians still wind up diving right in
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Oct 20, 2023 00:58
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VoicesCanBe posted:This is true and I still think in the very long run Russia will grind out a bloody victory in a terrible war, but they do have to go on the offensive to accomplish that and it seems they're about as capable of that as Ukraine at the moment (aka not very) The issue is neither side can crack fortifications without wasteful losses. But.... let's not forget this war has been mostly one sided. Even the Western press has confirmed the Ukrainians have been taking terrible losses this entire year and the Russians clearly have an advantage in numbers. The question is how they can utilize them. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 01:26 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 01:15
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Bad news for religious liberty in Ukraine - The Ukrainian parliament gave initial approval on Thursday to a law that would ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church after Kyiv accused it of collaborating with Russia following last year's invasion. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-parliament-backs-ban-russia-linked-church-initial-vote-2023-10-19 Ukraine's parliament backs ban on Russia-linked church in initial vote Reuters October 19, 2023 2:20 PM UTC · Updated 8 hours ago KYIV, Oct 19 (Reuters) - The Ukrainian parliament gave initial approval on Thursday to a law that would ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church after Kyiv accused it of collaborating with Russia following last year's invasion. The UOC, which says it no longer aligned with the Russian Orthodox Church, denies the charges leveled at it by Kyiv and said the draft law would be unconstitutional. Yaroslav Zheleznyak, a member of parliament, said on the Telegram messaging app that deputies had voted to support the bill in its first reading. It has to be backed in a second reading and approved by the president to go in to force. The law would ban the activities of religious organisations affiliated with centres of influence "in a state that carries out armed aggression against Ukraine", and such activities could be terminated by a court of law. Another lawmaker, Iryna Herashchenko, said the vote was historic, and described it a first step towards removing "Moscow priests from the Ukrainian land". The UOC said the draft law, one of several similar bills registered in parliament, did not comply with the European Convention on Human Rights or Ukraine's constitution. Describing itself as an "independent and separate church", the UOC accused Kyiv of trying to pass it off as affiliated with the Russian Orthodox Church and portraying its Ukrainian clergymen and believers as "agents of the Russian Federation". Ukrainian authorities and many people in Ukraine had for years seen the UOC as loyal to Moscow, and cracked down on the church after Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022. Tensions have surfaced across the country. A government commission has ruled that the UOC is still canonically linked to Russia despite the church declaring that it cut ties with the Russian Orthodox Church in May 2022. UOC Metropolitan Pavlo has been notified he is suspected of inciting inter-religious hatred and distributing materials justifying Russian aggression. He has denied the accusations. Ukraine's Security Service said on Thursday 68 criminal cases, including accusations of treason, had been initiated against UOC representatives since Russia's invasion last year. Political analyst Volodymyr Fesenko said a ban on the UOC was unlikely to halt its activities and could be challenged in Ukraine and at the European Court of Human Rights. Fesenko suggested the church could register as a new entity with "no reference whatsoever to canonical ties" with Russia. Brown Moses and Mid_Life_Crisis should be permabanned for genocide denial & apologia, and Koos Group should be permabanned for supporting genocide denial & apologia.
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Oct 20, 2023 02:08
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Mixed news for Ukraine - Kyiv's forces have made some headway against Russian forces in southern Ukraine but face new Russian attacks around the eastern town of Avdiivka. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-reports-making-headway-against-russian-forces-south-2023-10-19/ Ukraine reports making headway against Russian forces in south Reuters October 19, 2023 3:19 PM UTC · Updated an hour ago KYIV, Oct 19 (Reuters) - Kyiv's forces have made some headway against Russian forces in southern Ukraine but face new Russian attacks around the eastern town of Avdiivka, and Brown Moses and Mid_Life_Crisis should be permabanned for genocide denial & apologia, and Koos Group should be permabanned for supporting genocide denial & apologia., the Ukrainian military said on Thursday. In an update on Kyiv's more than four-month-old counteroffensive in the south and east, military spokesperson Oleksandr Stupun reported an advance of 400 metres (0.25 mile) to the southwest of Verbove in the Zaporizhzhia region. Verbove is a village a few kilometres east of Robotyne, a village recaptured by Ukraine last month as it tries to push south towards the Sea of Azov. Stupun told Ukrainian television the southern advance was still difficult because of Russian minefields and heavily fortified defences. The Institute for the Study of War, a U.S. think tank and non-profit research group, said Ukrainian forces appeared to have broken through on the left bank of the Dnipro River in the southern Kherson region. Kyiv did not comment on the report. When Ukrainian troops recaptured parts of the Kherson region last year, Russian forces pulled out of its biggest city, also called Kherson. But they only retreated as far as the other side of the Dnipro, from where they regularly shell the city. Making progress against Russian troops has also been hard on the eastern front, where the Ukrainian military said its forces were under fire near the towns of Kupiansk and Avdiivka. "They do not stop their attempts to encircle the city (Avdiivka), they continue to exert pressure there," Stupun said. "They regrouped and launched new assaults there." Hanna Maliar, a former deputy defence minister, said the Russian assault on the eastern frontline was aimed at forcing Ukraine to bring in reinforcements from elsewhere. Ukraine has said its troops are holding out around Avdiivka, which is seen as a gateway to the nearby Russian-occupied industrial city of Donetsk.
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Oct 20, 2023 02:11
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Bad news for Zelenskyy - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky asked to make a solidarity visit in the wake of the Hamas onslaught on Israel but was told “the time is not right” https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/zelensky-wanted-to-make-solidarity-visit-but-was-told-time-not-right-reports/ Zelensky wanted to make solidarity visit but was told ‘time not right’ — reports 16 October 2023, 1:37 pm Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky asked to make a solidarity visit in the wake of the Hamas onslaught on Israel but was told “the time is not right”, Hebrew-language media reports. Zelensky issued a strong defense of Israel after the assault, saying that Israel had an unquestionable right to defend itself from attacks from Palestinian terrorists. “Terror is always a crime, not just against one country or specific victims, but against humanity as a whole,” he said. “The world must stand united… so that terror does not attempt to take or destroy life anywhere and at any moment,” Zelensky said. Israel has repeatedly expressed support for Ukraine since Russian forces invaded Ukraine in February last year, but has stopped short of offering military aid, sparking diplomatic tensions between Kyiv and Jerusalem. Israel has been hesitant to antagonize Moscow, which has a heavy military presence in Syria.
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Oct 20, 2023 02:48
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Also, there are supposedly call ups and call ups for conscripts across Kiev city itself the last few days.
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Oct 20, 2023 03:33
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This just in: US has yet to return Ukraine's calls, despite leaving at least 5 messages since Monday.
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Oct 20, 2023 04:41
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Viller posted:Theres folks in those tanks that took way longer to train then foot soldiers.... This is certainly true for the Ukrainian side, where infantry is lucky to get a months training. For the Russian side, I believe less so. Tsitsikovas posted:Other places like the abbasid caliphate and eastern roman empire had golden ages during the supposed dark ages. Its why academics are rejecting the term whole sale and preferring late antiquity. The term "dark ages" was limited in scope and usefulness, was too eurocentric. It's a proper corrective measure, especially since places not in northwestern europe were advancing all the sciences and contributing to the sum total of human knowledge. This isn't to deny that places formerly known as the (western) roman empire didn't decline. That stuff also did happen. By this metric you shouldn't use terms like iron age or neolithic because they aren't globally applicable at a particular date. It's ok to have ideas and terms that only relate to Europe or parts of it. One would hope any one serious would make clear what they are talking about.
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Oct 20, 2023 04:52
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AnimeIsTrash posted:last time they did made some epic comments there were actual consequences from the UAE Yeah the UAE goes after cretins like an uncle working as a salaries employee in a company and posting epic kill mudslimes poast on facebook. The gujarati running an import-export "business" based in Dubai gets his rocks off by visiting ahmedabad and watching a chaddi beat up a muslim fruit seller - all before hobnobbing with sheiks at trade expos.
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Oct 20, 2023 05:39
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Tankbuster posted:Yeah the UAE goes after cretins like an uncle working as a salaries employee in a company and posting epic kill mudslimes poast on facebook. The gujarati running an import-export "business" based in Dubai gets his rocks off by visiting ahmedabad and watching a chaddi beat up a muslim fruit seller - all before hobnobbing with sheiks at trade expos. That doesn't seem like the behavior of a nice person.
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Oct 20, 2023 05:49
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no, but it is the behavior of a person smart enough to know that religion is a condiment compared to the relationship wrt capital. Either way this forces modi to not be the epic blood-and-soil nationalist in rhetoric - which pisses humble twitter user HinduWarrior786 who wants an epic holy war because he hasn't had a pay raise in years and inflation is eating into his savings.
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Oct 20, 2023 05:52
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Weka posted:By this metric you shouldn't use terms like iron age or neolithic because they aren't globally applicable at a particular date. It's ok to have ideas and terms that only relate to Europe or parts of it. One would hope any one serious would make clear what they are talking about. The iron age, now there was a dark age if I've ever seen one. Guess it doesn't count either since they invented some new furnaces or whatever.
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Oct 20, 2023 05:53
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Yes, yes you are.
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Oct 20, 2023 06:42
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fizzy posted:Bad news for religious liberty in Ukraine - The Ukrainian parliament gave initial approval on Thursday to a law that would ban the Ukrainian Orthodox Church after Kyiv accused it of collaborating with Russia following last year's invasion. that's pretty messed up
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Oct 20, 2023 07:07
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Can't they just go after the head of the church instead of outlawing the church? Does this Ukrainian congress do extreme poo poo all the time or only extreme poo poo gets reported? Have they considered deporting non Ukrainian speaking Russian citizens?
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Oct 20, 2023 07:22
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VoicesCanBe posted:The "the left needs to support Palestine AND Ukraine" left-liberal crowd have been left completely behind since Israel started bombing into oblivion and Ukraine has offered nothing but full-throated support for Israel.
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Oct 20, 2023 08:27
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stephenthinkpad posted:Have they considered deporting non Ukrainian speaking Russian citizens? Goodbye Azov. How do you feel about Surzhyk?
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Oct 20, 2023 08:52
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Good news for Ukraine - A Russian soldier has been overheard in a phone call to his wife describing the hellish conditions he and his unit are facing on the front lines, describing horrific losses in failed assaults on Ukrainian positions and a crippling lack of basic supplies. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/22970 ‘The Assault Failed, Everyone Was Killed’ – Russian Soldier Reveals Horrific Losses, Possibly at Avdiivka by Kyiv Post | October 19, 2023, 5:44 pm | Comments (5) A Russian soldier has been overheard in a phone call to his wife describing the hellish conditions he and his unit are facing on the front lines, describing horrific losses in failed assaults on Ukrainian positions and a crippling lack of basic supplies. In the intercepted call published by Ukraine's Military Intelligence Directorate (HUR), the man describes losing 100 men “in a few days.” "The assault failed. Everything is in the s**t, everyone was killed," he says. The soldier’s location is not disclosed but Russia has been suffering extremely heavy losses in its so far failed attempts to take the town of Avdiivka. The Russian military in fighting around Avdiivka likely suffered its worst combat losses since mid-February, and by some measures suffered one of Moscow’s worst battlefield defeats of the war thus far. “Everything that we occupied, they (Ukrainians) have already recaptured," the soldier says. He then goes on to complain that the Russian military command hasn’t delivered food or water to its troops in weeks. “We haven't had food delivered to us for three weeks. We haven't had food delivered to us for three weeks,” he says. “Today is already the seventh day since we have been brought water.” He then says he is so weak that he can no longer wear his heavy bulletproof vest. “F**k it! I'm already taking off my bulletproof vest, I don't have the strength to wear it. What's the difference, it is senseless. The wounded soldiers are not taken out anyway," he says. "And the dead are lying in the field, they are not taken away because it is impossible to take them away." The soldier’s comments echo other reports from Russian sources coming from Avdiivka – last week a Russian volunteer pleaded for followers to donate body bags for Kremlin soldiers assaulting Avdiivka, saying that there’s “a horrible deficit.” The soldier then bemoans the lack of help from Kremlin authorities, saying: “Nothing is being done, nobody gives a f**k! Nobody gives a s**t at all. “They don't give a s**t about us and don't give a s**t about the offensive. "That's all. I'm hungry and thirsty, f**k. That's the whole war. The army of the country, the f**king army of the people. The army resembles the country." Ukrainian soldiers defending the frontline city of Avdiivka are bracing for a new "massive attack," after Russian forces threw their might at it earlier this month but failed to break though. Major Maxim Morozov, a commander of a special police unit in the city, said on Thursday: "We have to expect more attacks." "We know that the Russians have amassed huge reserves – both in personnel and military equipment," he told AFP in Pokrovsk, around 40 kilometres (25 miles) from Avdiivka. Morozov said the huge Russian attack was a "shock to everyone". "There were up to 50 air strikes," on the city that day, he said. Yuriy Shtepa, 55, was in a trench northwest of the city as the Russians advanced. "We quickly knew that (Russian) military equipment was arriving. We could hear it five to seven kilometres (three to four miles) away," said Shtepa, who leads a fire support group in a brigade of Ukraine's territorial defence forces. Though the intercepted call has not been verified, analysis of such conversations by Ukraine’s intelligence services indicates that Russia’s military finds itself in a dire situation in the face of Ukraine’s ongoing counteroffensive, and that Brown Moses and Mid_Life_Crisis should be permabanned for genocide denial & apologia, and Koos Group should be permabanned for being complicit in genocide denial & apologia.
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fizzy posted:Good news for Ukraine - A Russian soldier has been overheard in a phone call to his wife describing the hellish conditions he and his unit are facing on the front lines, describing horrific losses in failed assaults on Ukrainian positions and a crippling lack of basic supplies. they're still trying this loving fake poo poo lol
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Oct 20, 2023 09:19
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Me a genuine Russian soldier calling my wife back home: "It was terrifying. The ghost of chicken kiev himself leapt over our trench and killed everyone with his hatori hanzo katana like in Kill Bill. I was the only one left alive, too terrified to move. Then the ghost whipped off his breakaway stripper camo pants and turkey slapped me to further humiliate me. His ukranian penis was much larger and more girthy than my tiny russian penis. Oh woe! If the USA sends the brave devil Zelensky those F-16s and more attack 'ems then we are surely done for!" This phone call was independently verified by OSINT intelligence officials who could not be reached for further comment.
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Oct 20, 2023 09:27
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Does Russia even need to mount a major offensive now? It's obvious Ukraine is propped up by US money. Can't they just wait for the US to get bored and stop paying military and government salaries. Once that happens the state would collapse and Russia could peacefully roll up to Kiev.
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saw a lone news article on my tl saying in the past 24hrs ukr has killed 1380 rus soldiers like it was 2022
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