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She was your Control Team captain, apparently. At least This Faust was.
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TeeQueue posted:She was your Control Team captain, apparently. Does This Faust also have a crush on Malkuth then?  Also I absolutely called Forsaken Murderer on Mersault. Dude's the Blunt EGO guy and fits perfectly with the book.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:07
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Dude's the Blunt EGO guy and fits perfectly with the book. No amount of chains will stop Meursault from not paying attention to the court
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Oct 20, 2023 11:13
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 That hairstyle and brooch...
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Oct 20, 2023 11:13
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Does This Faust also have a crush on Malkuth then? She knows about day 50 so I'm willing to bet she's at least a Faust-level doer of detective-related activities. As for the E.G.O, it's supposed to be the one from Ruina so it's basically a glammed up version of the E.G.O page.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:19
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Man, I really wanna see the uptie story for that Regret E.G.O. identity.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:32
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TeeQueue posted:As for the E.G.O, it's supposed to be the one from Ruina so it's basically a glammed up version of the E.G.O page.  It looks identical to the one Angela wore in the Yesod Realization cutscene. I didn't realize the Ruina EGO also had the cravat and brooch. That plus the mask looking like a turtleneck pulled up way too high makes me wonder if the Forsaken Murderer actually represents Carmen's view of Gabriel rather than someone they tortured and experimented on? GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 11:36
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It's so weird to see Meursault with unkempt hair.GilliamYaeger posted:Now that I actually look at it I'm not sure it's glammed up at all, actually.
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Oct 20, 2023 15:37
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Marluxia posted:I am pretty sure they stole the big technology that the Ring had, the weird alternative door dimension, (Leviathan events) and that was a technology she did not develop, just merely installed into Mephistopheles. Hah, this just got confirmed today. On that note, I really do wonder about Ryoshu. Based off her promotion image, she seems to have some kind of relationship with all five fingers, but she has the most ties to the Ring, even knowing about their secret technology.
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Oct 20, 2023 18:13
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Marluxia posted:Hah, this just got confirmed today. On that note, I really do wonder about Ryoshu. Based off her promotion image, she seems to have some kind of relationship with all five fingers, but she has the most ties to the Ring, even knowing about their secret technology. There's been a theory going around that she was a member of the Ring who hosed up a Finger Bow-Bell (the big inter syndicate meeting between the 5 fingers). Perhaps she was meant to make some sort of performance artwork and things went wrong because Daughter turned into Katana.
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Oct 20, 2023 18:19
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GilliamYaeger posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcOhR9V03m8 interesting that she knows about the 50 days, Faust Knows All Outcomes I guess coins are 1-3-4 which seems neat GilliamYaeger posted:That plus the mask looking like a turtleneck pulled up way too high makes me wonder if the Forsaken Murderer actually represents Carmen's view of Gabriel rather than someone they tortured and experimented on? I think Forsaken Murderer just represents the test subjects for Cogito in general and the outfit is mostly just a nod to Ruina. Though it could also represent Yesod's guilt. Carmen tints the lens a bit with lobcorp abnos since she's the source of Cogito but most abnos aren't from her viewpoint at all. He could also be a literal test subject turned abno. There's an abnormality that's just a guy wandering the mirror dungeon with an enk box on his head so enough of the stuff will do crazy things to you. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 18:55
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Lord_Magmar posted:There's been a theory going around that she was a member of the Ring who hosed up a Finger Bow-Bell (the big inter syndicate meeting between the 5 fingers). I'm guessing she's ex-Shi given her affinity for murder and familiarity with their style. They're philistines who don't appreciate true art and wanted her to "kill your target without making a gallery out of it oh my god" like some kind of savage. Though she could also have been targeted by them who knows, we don't really have enough her to go on beyond her reluctance to draw the sword ever. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 19:03
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I mean, the Murderer has both of Gabriel's problems explicitly shown: his insistence on covering his body, with the Murderer even more covered up, and the self harm.
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Oct 20, 2023 20:33
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KobunFan posted:I mean, the Murderer has both of Gabriel's problems explicitly shown: his insistence on covering his body, with the Murderer even more covered up, and the self harm. i don't think he's insisting on the straight jacket, he has it because he's a murderer that's being used for horrible experiments e: Thinking about it he's definitely a nod to Yesod's whole arc about how nobody cares about where technology comes from or the cost of their convinences but I don't think he's meant to represent Yesod himself. That angle doesn't really fit IMO Yinlock fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 21:27
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Did the nuggets even know about the 50 day plan? TQ LP aside. Faust as Control Team Captain seems to be more knowledgable about that.
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Oct 20, 2023 21:37
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https://twitter.com/tokyotaidou/status/1715347931686121636?s=20
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Yinlock posted:i don't think he's insisting on the straight jacket, he has it because he's a murderer that's being used for horrible experiments
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Oct 21, 2023 01:22
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...come to think of it, he can heal people by punching using Pursuance. Hmmmmm.
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Oct 21, 2023 02:01
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Side note, I did some quick math on each individual Sinner's current ID status with sin generation and currently we have 5 gaps Gregor has no IDs that generate Pride. Heathcliff has no IDs that generate Pride. Meursault has no IDs that generate Gluttony. Outis has no IDs that generate Envy. Ryoshu has no IDs that generate Gloom.
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Oct 21, 2023 02:56
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PetraCore posted:I think the representation is more about the human cost of the research into Cogito in general, with some focus on Yesod motifs because Gabriel's slide into self harming madness was a really prolonged and dramatic example of that. It's more that Yesod's story fits the theme of Forsaken Murderer instead of the Murderer is supposed to be Yesod. I think this makes sense, we can see already with the EGO that are shared between Sinners that individuals manifesting EGO can modify how they look. Don Quixote and Faust both can use Clappy Shark but get different looks from it. Given the nature of Walpurgis Night, Meursault is likely "drawing" not just from Forsaken Murderer, but specifically Angela's catalogued Forsaken Murderer. So Angela is the source of the outfit mixing with Yesod if anything, not Carmen.
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Oct 21, 2023 04:33
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Junpei posted:Did the nuggets even know about the 50 day plan? TQ LP aside. Faust as Control Team Captain seems to be more knowledgable about that. There's no reason to think that was the case, no, which is part of why Angela did nothing wrong. Lord_Magmar posted:There's been a theory going around that she was a member of the Ring who hosed up a Finger Bow-Bell (the big inter syndicate meeting between the 5 fingers). I wonder how that's going to play out since PM seems to shy away from that kind of child harm, Tiphereths aside. Though I'd imagine if Ryoshu did have family, either a parent or child of her own, she'd put the fear of god in someone who messed with them regardless of who they were with. Seems to be a pretty common trait of parents in the City, go figure.
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Oct 21, 2023 04:40
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Junpei posted:Side note, I did some quick math on each individual Sinner's current ID status with sin generation and currently we have 5 gaps The only one that doesn't make sense to me is Heathcliff's lack of Pride. The others I could totally buy.
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Oct 21, 2023 06:40
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We were at 6 pretty recently-Molar Yi Sang closed the Lust gap on his IDs. So I anticipate new IDs will close these in the future.
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Oct 21, 2023 07:19
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KobunFan posted:The only one that doesn't make sense to me is Heathcliff's lack of Pride. The others I could totally buy. It makes sense to me. Heathcliff doesn't pretend to be anything he's not—hell, in Canto 3 we had that whole scene where Ishmael gets lectured for pretending to know what's going on while Heath didn't. He may want power and money, but only for the sake of getting back at… whatever the hell happened to get him to that funeral.
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Oct 21, 2023 11:15
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Junpei posted:Did the nuggets even know about the 50 day plan? TQ LP aside. Faust as Control Team Captain seems to be more knowledgable about that. given how every other lcorp location had no idea about the whole Light thing it seems like nobody but Ayin really had any idea(Hokma and Binah were aware of the vague outline but didn't know specifics iirc), so Faust knowing about it is notable
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Oct 21, 2023 17:24
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Yinlock posted:given how every other lcorp location had no idea about the whole Light thing it seems like nobody but Ayin really had any idea(Hokma and Binah were aware of the vague outline but didn't know specifics iirc), so Faust knowing about it is notable She probably something that count the day and when it got weirdly gently caress-up, she started doing calculation about everything and maybe found out?
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Shastahanshah posted:There's no reason to think that was the case, no, which is part of why Angela did nothing wrong.
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Oct 21, 2023 17:49
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Yinlock posted:given how every other lcorp location had no idea about the whole Light thing it seems like nobody but Ayin really had any idea(Hokma and Binah were aware of the vague outline but didn't know specifics iirc), so Faust knowing about it is notable I'm pretty sure Faust has some weird shared mirror consciousness going on, she knows the things other Fausts know (potentially). So any Faust learning about the 50 day plan, like say, after it's done, could potentially have given that knowledge to the collective.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm pretty sure Faust has some weird shared mirror consciousness going on, she knows the things other Fausts know (potentially). So any Faust learning about the 50 day plan, like say, after it's done, could potentially have given that knowledge to the collective.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm pretty sure Faust has some weird shared mirror consciousness going on, she knows the things other Fausts know (potentially). So any Faust learning about the 50 day plan, like say, after it's done, could potentially have given that knowledge to the collective.
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Oct 21, 2023 18:59
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Off the top of my head, the biggest proofs of it are Lob Corp Remnant Faust, who mentions "experiencing every life in the city" and N Corp Faust (who knows that Kromer exists in other worlds as the One Who Grips and explicitly mindbroke Sinclair to be a better One Who Grips than Kromer is). This is also why "Faust knows all outcomes" and is "the most knowledgeable person in the city". GilliamYaeger posted:She just needs Angela Faust, Ayin Faust or any kind of Librarian Faust to exist in order to have the information, presumably. Ayin Faust sounds the most probably, she tends to be "the boss" in mirror worlds where she's learning or experiencing very important facts.
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I liked the theory I heard about how Faust addresses herself: When she uses "I" she refers to the Faust Dante is talking to - the Faust that is native to this world, and she uses "Faust" she refers to one of the Fausts living in the mirror worlds. A neat and likely bit of characterization.
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Oct 21, 2023 19:53
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PetraCore posted:We also don't have any indication how old Ryoshu's daughter was. For all we know, Ryoshu is in her 40s and her kid was an adult. I believe in the original short story, the daughter is 15 or 16, but that's contextually treated as a legal and societal adult, just a quite young one. So I wouldn't be surprised if Ryoshu's daughter was 18 to 20 years old. Ryoshu being 40 would make her edgy teenager attitude way, way funnier. Like finding out Argalia is 43 or whateve he is.
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Shastahanshah posted:Ryoshu being 40 would make her edgy teenager attitude way, way funnier.
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Lord_Magmar posted:
Nah Faust isn't always the boss in Mirror Worlds like Lobcorp is her just in the position of Yuri aka barely making ends meet and Warp Faust is only L2 which isn't that high up. The real meme would be Ayin Don since Don kind of consistently in a leader role except for N corp and our bus Don. So her being a leader in Lob Corp wouldn't be out of the question though probably not Ayin level since we don't even have a clue how the mirror identities work but so far it still seems mostly low ranked people since as far as associations go rank 4 seems to be the current max.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I'm pretty sure Faust has some weird shared mirror consciousness going on, she knows the things other Fausts know (potentially). So any Faust learning about the 50 day plan, like say, after it's done, could potentially have given that knowledge to the collective. She seems to know all outcomes besides the possibility she's in so that might track
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Oct 22, 2023 17:27
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Yinlock posted:She seems to know all outcomes besides the possibility she's in so that might track The Sinners are so chaotic together even the collective-mind of Faust is lost.
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my Rupture team killed an end-of-Normal MD2 Shock Centipede without it getting a single action. Did enough damage that broke the shield turn 1, then two more turns of being stunned and open. Thunderbranch helped obvs but still, people who say Rupture aren't good are lying.
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Junpei posted:my Rupture team killed an end-of-Normal MD2 Shock Centipede without it getting a single action. Did enough damage that broke the shield turn 1, then two more turns of being stunned and open. Thunderbranch helped obvs but still, people who say Rupture aren't good are lying. I've been playing around with it, and it does kinda feel like you either need the team to go in a certain order or gifts like Thunderbranch - though admittedly I'm using 7 Faust/Heath/Outis, Rose Gregor, Talisman Sinclair, and LCCB Ishmael, so I'm not sure if I need to be subbing 7 Ryoshu in somewhere or not (7 Yi Sang does not feel good at UT3)
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The team I used was all 5 Seven IDs (Heath and Yi were at 4, everyone else was at 3), K Hong Lu and Talisman Sinclair.
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