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CommissarMega posted:For most militaries, yes, but this Russia were talking about, and so we have to factor in vranyo- how sure can we be that the poor dumbshits who run those facilities will actually report accurate numbers back to their superiors? I imagine the Russian commander giving orders to quickly clear the wreckage of the destroyed helicopters and have them replaced with new ones so that the command doesn't figure out that they had such heavy losses
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Oct 20, 2023 11:10
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aniviron posted:Yeah letting your airfield get shelled a second time would be almost as dumb as pushing a failed attack into a fortified position that cost you 100+ armored vehicles and thousands of lives a second time when nothing has changed. They'd never do that. Parking more helicopters in Berdyansk would follow the Russian playbook from the Chornobaivka airport and Berdyansk port. Ukraine demonstrating that they can hit a place doesn't mean that Russia finds it at all necesarry or prudent to remove assets from that place.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:11
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mobby_6kl posted:^^^^ Didn't they last year keep positioning airplanes at the same airport/base, despite it kept getting hit over and over again?
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Oct 20, 2023 11:15
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Collapsing Farts posted:I dunno if those numbers are correct (trust no info in war) but either way the russians are obviously suffering a lot of losses right now, as video shows a lot of armor being destroyed during really sloppy russian ops Ukraine numbers tend to be over estimates but not that far beyond reality that they are absurd (like what Russia tries to claim). Mobby_6kl's pretty right in their summary of how Ukraine's estimates tend to stack up The thing with the daily number is there's a godawful amount of video and images to back up that the last 24hours has been a complete disaster for Russia and there is a loooot of military hardware destroyed.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:16
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NoiseAnnoys posted:lol were they папироси? I remember these. We used to buy them because they are really convenient for smoking weed. Just blow out the tobacco and fill it back up with weed. I would also smoke one or two of them just for fun and they have really unusual taste compared to normal cigarettes, but try smoking more and this unusual taste starts to feel absolutely vile.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:17
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Sekenr posted:I remember these. We used to buy them because they are really convenient for smoking weed. Just blow out the tobacco and fill it back up with weed. I would also smoke one or two of them just for fun and they have really unusual taste compared to normal cigarettes, but try smoking more and this unusual taste starts to feel absolutely vile. yeah, they just feel bad. when i lived in lviv only the most hardcore die-hard ex-soviet lunatics smoked them. i don't even know if they still make them, i hope not.
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Oct 20, 2023 11:21
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Organic night vision, i'm impressed. 
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Oct 20, 2023 12:08
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Charlz Guybon posted:If true, Russian ability to respond with attack helicopters to Ukranian armored movements has been gutted While impressive, the number of destroyed choppers is not the most important consequence of this attack. What will make a much bigger difference are the decisions Russia will need to make around basing locations for the helicopter fleet and the diversion of air defence resources to locations that didn't previously need it. Russian doctrine calls for helicopters to be based close to the front lines so they can be reactive to requests for support from frontline troops. They consider this to be a pretty important capability which was why they kept using that airfield despite Ukraine repeatedly hitting it with artillery and wrecking huge amounts of equipment - for a long time the availability of helicopter support close to the front was considered to be worth the sacrifice of a lot of materiel. Pushing their available bases even further back is going to make their helicopter fleet far less responsive and give them less loiter time in the combat area, given helicopters where a major thorn in the side of Ukrainian tanks in recent offensives this is a pretty big deal for them.
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Oct 20, 2023 12:14
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Owling Howl posted:Parking more helicopters in Berdyansk would follow the Russian playbook from the Chornobaivka airport and Berdyansk port. Ukraine demonstrating that they can hit a place doesn't mean that Russia finds it at all necesarry or prudent to remove assets from that place. If supreme commander Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin tells the world that Russia can intercept ATACMS, you will not find a general who will say otherwise, making it very much possible that they will park new helicopters on the airfields that got wrecked by the UAF. The Russian army and its commanders are notorious for just following orders and not thinking for themselves.
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Oct 20, 2023 12:17
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malder posted:If supreme commander Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin tells the world that Russia can intercept ATACMS, you will not find a general who will say otherwise, making it very much possible that they will park new helicopters on the airfields that got wrecked by the UAF. The Russian army and its commanders are notorious for just following orders and not thinking for themselves. They shouldn’t even be an issue. After all, Russia claims to have destroyed more HIMARS launchers than were ever produced.
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Oct 20, 2023 12:33
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HonorableTB posted:I agree with this. The Russians are monumentally stupid when it comes to war but not even the Russians will allow this to happen a second time.  Just quickly for no particular reason, how many times did Ukrainians blow up huge Russian ammo stockpiles and other poo poo at that one airport again?
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Oct 20, 2023 13:35
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HonorableTB posted:I agree with this. The Russians are monumentally stupid when it comes to war but not even the Russians will allow this to happen a second time. They're going to disperse their aircraft but that just hurts them too because the more dispersed their air power is, the more resources it will take to do an air strike with them, get them to the front for CAS, or to do behind the lines strategic attacks. An Alligator that has to fly 100+ miles to reach the front has burned half of its fuel by the time it even gets to where the fighting is. That drastically reduces the combat potential of any aircraft sent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHC1230OpOg
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Oct 20, 2023 14:36
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Sekenr posted:I remember these. We used to buy them because they are really convenient for smoking weed. Just blow out the tobacco and fill it back up with weed. I would also smoke one or two of them just for fun and they have really unusual taste compared to normal cigarettes, but try smoking more and this unusual taste starts to feel absolutely vile. NoiseAnnoys posted:lol were they папироси? lol I thought this was just a gag from the fifth element
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Oct 20, 2023 14:44
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ah, the cigarettes that make Gauloises luxury by comparison.
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Oct 20, 2023 15:05
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Jimlit posted:lol I thought this was just a gag from the fifth element Except I'm gonna guess it's just cardboard and not actually a filter lol.
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Oct 20, 2023 15:17
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 Apparently, the whole harebrained attempt to capture Avdiivka that ended thrice in failure was because the idiots in the vatnik General Staff wanted to give monke a present. Well, continue doubling down at your earliest convenience so your whole armored reserve is drained by next Spring.
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Oct 20, 2023 15:21
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weg posted:Except I'm gonna guess it's just cardboard and not actually a filter lol. It's not supposed to be a filter, it's a mouthpiece.
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Oct 20, 2023 15:23
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weg posted:Except I'm gonna guess it's just cardboard and not actually a filter lol. it is, lol
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Oct 20, 2023 15:26
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Newest from Jack Watling at RUSI:quote:Ukraine Must Prepare for a Hard Winter https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/ukraine-must-prepare-hard-winter
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Oct 20, 2023 15:27
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zone posted:
But Putin already successfully denazified Ukraine by dumping white phosphorous on Mariupol and exposed NATO and especially the USA as paper tigers that are complete utter jokes that world should abandon, what more could he want?????
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Oct 20, 2023 15:27
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loving concerning if the mighty foundries of *checks notes* Iran and North Korea are able to outproduce NATO
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Oct 20, 2023 15:57
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beer_war posted:Newest from Jack Watling at RUSI: Okay, NATO stockpiles are being depleted. That sounds grim and honestly I did not see that coming. I guess this must be because Ukraine is still using old leftover stuff as of right now and starting/restarting ammunition production takes time, and can take as long as two years after the start of the conflict? Or alternatively, "how the gently caress is this possible".
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Oct 20, 2023 15:58
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https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1715217945968947557 lol wtf...I mean wtf
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Oct 20, 2023 16:06
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When you huff your own farts for that long it tends to mess with your brain's oxygen supply and you start to say funny things
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Oct 20, 2023 16:13
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Happy birthday Putin, hope you like ... thousands of Russian corpses and smashed equipment 🎂
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Oct 20, 2023 16:15
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I thought he'd been shamed off twitter long ago. Guess he's back for another go at it.
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Oct 20, 2023 16:18
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Seriously I wonder how many total clusterfucks and military disasters in history can be chalked up to some political stunt like "we must launch this rocket on the Nth anniversary of the country" or "we must deliver X city in time for so-and-so's birthday" e: or "we must open the country back up by Easter, screw covid" Data Graham fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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Oct 20, 2023 16:18
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Tai posted:https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1715217945968947557 Shorner's counterattack to relieve Berlin any day now!!
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Oct 20, 2023 16:19
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uhhh, the Russians know they can go home anytime? Right? Like go back over the border and stop murdering Ukrainians? has anyone told them that this is an option?
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Oct 20, 2023 16:19
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Data Graham posted:Seriously I wonder how many total clusterfucks and military disasters in history can be chalked up to some political stunt like "we must launch this rocket on the Nth anniversary of the country" or "we must deliver X city in time for so-and-so's birthday" The optics comrade!
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Oct 20, 2023 16:19
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Tai posted:https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1715217945968947557 Didn't this guy get proven wrong on a dozen different assaults and made a huge whiny taking-my-ball-and-going-home exit back in 2022 or was it somebody else
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Oct 20, 2023 16:19
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Icept posted:I thought he'd been shamed off twitter long ago. He gained a little courage back when Ukraine couldn't easily break through an enormous minefield that was basically the biggest ever made, while lacking air power. Though I'm of the opinion that his courage won't last him very long when the very last mobik waves end up being thrown at Avdiivka and still fail.
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Oct 20, 2023 16:20
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NoiseAnnoys posted:lol were they папироси? i can still taste the unique flavor of dusty horse poo poo upon seeing this. what a terrible day to have memories
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Oct 20, 2023 16:29
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zone posted:He gained a little courage back when Ukraine couldn't easily break through an enormous minefield that was basically the biggest ever made, while lacking air power. Though I'm of the opinion that his courage won't last him very long when the very last mobik waves end up being thrown at Avdiivka and still fail. he blocked me and afaik I never interacted with him. very courageous.
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Oct 20, 2023 16:50
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EorayMel posted:Didn't this guy get proven wrong on a dozen different assaults and made a huge whiny taking-my-ball-and-going-home exit back in 2022 or was it somebody else You've arrived at the wrong conclusion. It's an account worth following. I think he's completely in charge of the Russian war effort.
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Oct 20, 2023 16:54
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Data Graham posted:Happy birthday Putin, hope you like ... thousands of Russian corpses and smashed equipment 🎂 Nyet, look at the shabby uniforms, the junk equipment! These are defeated Ukrainians boss! They are facing west because they were running away.
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Oct 20, 2023 16:56
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Data Graham posted:Happy birthday Putin, hope you like ... thousands of Russian corpses and smashed equipment 🎂 The Keystone Korps.
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Oct 20, 2023 17:04
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So Copelord is back, as delusional as ever. War, war never changes.
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Oct 20, 2023 17:14
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https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1715399392029549029#m And other stories Russians cry themselves to sleep with every night.
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Oct 20, 2023 17:24
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Fabulous Knight posted:Okay, NATO stockpiles are being depleted. That sounds grim and honestly I did not see that coming. I guess this must be because Ukraine is still using old leftover stuff as of right now and starting/restarting ammunition production takes time, and can take as long as two years after the start of the conflict? Europeans have enjoyed three decades of peace dividend since the fall of the Soviet Union. And America is a clusterfuck politically. Also, Putin probably considers this war a matter of life and death for himself. For Ukraine's allies the war is obviously an important issue, but maybe not quite that pressing. Hell, just yesterday there was a story that the US redirected thousands of artillery shells meant to go to Ukraine to Israel.
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