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That disk has to be my age at least. Just imagine, you're trying to launch a missile, you pop in the disk, and "General failure reading drive A. A)bort, R)etry, I)gnore".
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 ibm series/1??? hello   quote:Announced by IBM's General Systems Division (GSD) on November 16, 1976, the IBM Series/1 was a small, general purpose computing system offering both communications and sensor-based capabilities. It also allowed users to attach a large number and variety of input and output devices, including custom-built devices for special application requirements.
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Oct 19, 2023 21:27
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im_sorry posted:That disk has to be my age at least. gen z PFC using magnets to keep the floppies stuck up against the drive bay so they don't have to deal with taking them out and putting them away
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for the young goons out there, the gao report is very thorough as you can see, the 8-inch floppy disk got its name from its size and propensity to need blue chews
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im_sorry posted:That disk has to be my age at least. I'm the senator who owns the one floppy disk factory still in operation that survives solely off defence contracts. "Yeah we can't use more modern technology in our critical systems. Only proven, robust. We're going back to tape reels soon."
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Hatebag posted:lol the antimissile system mirvs negate is anti-proliferation treaties. they were created because treaties were signed limiting the number of carrier vehicles so instead they slap a bunch of warheads on one missile. nah you just create a shield of friendly nuclear explosions over canada to limit the damage to the us from trans polar attack
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DancingShade posted:I'm the senator who owns the one floppy disk factory still in operation that survives solely off defence contracts. Only they had to increase profits and cut materials costs, so when they try to use the disk, the cheap oxide coating flakes off and wrecks the drive.
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Just order the 8" floppy disk from China.
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Centrist Committee posted:lol I’ve never watched a politics on my youtube and this one in my recommendations too. love to live in freedomlamd baby YouTube is presently spamming me with Epoch Times ads, below all the Breakthrough News and PSL videos I'm watching, it's more intense than the Prager U ads were.
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Nuclear weapons are things where "if it works, don't fix it" really is true. I'd rather have them use floppy disks than Windows ME.
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I'd really rather the US modernized the systems away from whatever was built when the government still did things on the grounds that the US being able to nuke people is a bad thing.
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captainbananas posted:modern hardware and code will be the sneaky route to disarmament. ancient-rear end FORTRAN or whatever the gently caress SACCS was built on is orders of magnitude more stablethan some fuckin python quilted together from stackoverflow and khan academy tutorials courtesy of BAH's team of crackpot software engineers led by shrike82 a lot of science still runs on Fortran. noob scientists and machine learners are into Python but the poo poo breaks if you look at it wrong. posix shell, c89, awk, and Fortran are more than enough.
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yeah, i've heard you get a really high paying job if you specialise in the dead languages that all our old industrial machinery runs on.
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Yeah please let silicon valley grifters get all over our nuclear arsenal and turn them into web 3.0 apps with always on drm that runs entirely on Chinese hardware. It's a good thing for the safety of the world if the nukes are quietly rendered entirely useless (assuming some of the old hardware does work and the whole thing isn't already a contractor scam).
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nuke silo software by chatgpt
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Real hurthling! posted:nah you just create a shield of friendly nuclear explosions over canada to limit the damage to the us from trans polar attack the us system was designed to shoot 30 5 mT abm missiles (abmms?) and 70 smaller kt missiles. in the event of nuclear holocaust the us plan was basically just to nuke the poo poo out of canada with the equivalent of 3 or 4 tsar bombas Hatebag has issued a correction as of 10:42 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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In Postman 2, Kevin Costner is the last Fortran programmer who walks the earth to repair dying nuclear count down machines.
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mawarannahr posted:a lot of science still runs on Fortran. noob scientists and machine learners are into Python but the poo poo breaks if you look at it wrong. posix shell, c89, awk, and Fortran are more than enough. 
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FuzzySlippers posted:Yeah please let silicon valley grifters get all over our nuclear arsenal and turn them into web 3.0 apps with always on drm that runs entirely on Chinese hardware. It's a good thing for the safety of the world if the nukes are quietly rendered entirely useless (assuming some of the old hardware does work and the whole thing isn't already a contractor scam). the silos are in hilariously bad shape and have been for decades (though in ways that terrify about the possibility of accidental leak or launch; command and control is a good read) unfortunately the submarines still work and have active maintenance all the time
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crepeface posted:yeah, i've heard you get a really high paying job if you specialise in the dead languages that all our old imperial machinery runs on. Presumably this is why I had to learn Greek and Latin
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Fortran really isn't so bad. It's good at its niche. People just see Fortran 77 and assume everything is still done like that.
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atelier morgan posted:unfortunately the submarines still work and have active maintenance all the time alternatively, 
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captainbananas posted:alternatively, unfortunately they aren't being run aground fast enough judging by how often trains go by my house on the way to bangor
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atelier morgan posted:unfortunately they aren't being run aground fast enough judging by how often trains go by my house on the way to bangor The trains are on the way to your mom?
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I was on the USS Connecticut, SSN-21, from 2007 to 2011. Due to the difficulty in procuring parts for that platform we always had some thing that was just permanently broken. The submarine ran aground in 2021 I guess, due to faulty bottom sounders. There is no way the US Navy is in operating condition. lol.
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Frosted Flake posted:Presumably this is why I had to learn Greek and Latin lmao
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Hatebag posted:the us system was designed to shoot 30 5 mT abm missiles (abmms?) and 70 smaller kt missiles. in the event of nuclear holocaust the us plan was basically just to nuke the poo poo out of canada with the equivalent of 3 or 4 tsar bombas Might as well nuke the Nazi colony
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Always figured if anyone gets nuked, it would be the US nuking itself, or it's own vassals. At least I can live in comfort knowing if I was British we'd vote for a referendum to nuke ourselves.
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KomradeX posted:Might as well nuke the Nazi colony All the Nazis will just flee south like every other time.
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atelier morgan posted:unfortunately they aren't being run aground fast enough judging by how often trains go by my house on the way to bangor Gripweed posted:The trains are on the way to your mom?
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ProfessorBooty posted:Always figured if anyone gets nuked, it would be the US nuking itself, or it's own vassals. When Corbyn was asked if he'd first strike our enemies, resulting in the total destruction of the UK in response, he said no. This made all the old men in the audience go bright red in anger. If you've ever seen that 3x3 grid of angry british men, i think most if not all of them were from that episode of question time.
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ProfessorBooty posted:Always figured if anyone gets nuked, it would be the US nuking itself, or it's own vassals. I assume at least half of the nuke in a nuclear exchange won't pop due to bad maintenance. And other countries will rebuild back to industrial state eventually on less polluted lands. And one country will be left in forever ruin, the country that is obsessed with post-apocalyptic fictions.
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Regarde Aduck posted:When Corbyn was asked if he'd first strike our enemies, resulting in the total destruction of the UK in response, he said no. This made all the old men in the audience go bright red in anger. If you've ever seen that 3x3 grid of angry british men, i think most if not all of them were from that episode of question time. In 1998, the Runnymede Trust set up a Commission on the “Future of Multi-Ethnic Britain” which set out to produce a review of the current state of multi-ethnic Britain. After two years of extensive consultation and discussion, the Commission produced a report which argues that Britain in the year 2000 was at a turning point or crossroads with different potential roads ahead: "Will it try to turn the clock back, digging in, defending old values and ancient hierarchies, relying on a narrow English-dominated, backward-looking definition of the nation? Or will it seize the opportunity to create a more flexible, inclusive, cosmopolitan image of itself?"  How did the past 23 years turn out?
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stephenthinkpad posted:I assume at least half of the nuke in a nuclear exchange won't pop due to bad maintenance. And other countries will rebuild back to industrial state eventually on less polluted lands. And one country will be left in forever ruin, the country that is obsessed with post-apocalyptic fictions. i have a nightmare that the mass exchange will be a dud, with only a small number of missiles launching on day zero. everyone then gets to spend the next couple weeks holding their breath and squeezing their sphincters while silos come online and launch, one by one, and random cities disappear with a poof after an antagonizing delay
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Delta-Wye posted:i have a nightmare that the mass exchange will be a dud, with only a small number of missiles launching on day zero. everyone then gets to spend the next couple weeks holding their breath and squeezing their sphincters while silos come online and launch, one by one, and random cities disappear with a poof after an antagonizing delay maybe this is just the optimist in me but you'd have to think that the collective heart attack caused by an actual failed attempt at nuclear war would lead to at least some reconsideration and hesitation not allowed for in the traditional "the enemy's missiles are in the air, you are going to die and have five minutes to decide whether they will suffer the same fate as you" scenario
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Delta-Wye posted:i have a nightmare that the mass exchange will be a dud, with only a small number of missiles launching on day zero. everyone then gets to spend the next couple weeks holding their breath and squeezing their sphincters while silos come online and launch, one by one, and random cities disappear with a poof after an antagonizing delay To throw more tires on your fire: There are many escalation scenarios that involve demonstrative attacks (attacking a sparsely populated area of the target nation), strictly counter-force (military targets), and then counter-value (cities). It is not necessarily a guarantee that full MAD gets triggered the first time there's a launch and they could go days or weeks trading blows and deliberating over whether to end the world. https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/reports/2007/R3235.pdf ETA: Even if there are a few duds, I'm certain that at least a few will work as intended or at least partially work, in that you still get a nuclear blast but it's lower yield, that or a glorified dirty bomb. Duds would probably be even worse since they will just launch more, which will cause the other side to launch more, and that's the road to insensate war. This is all to say, there are increments to nuclear war and isn't strictly a binary between conventional only and launch everything skooma512 has issued a correction as of 23:00 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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skooma512 posted:TBF, they prefer lower tech solutions because of EMP concerns. All of my 1980ies 5 1/4" floppies read/write fine and held onto their data for 4 decades. Yet 90% of my 1.44meg floppies are dead or have errors. And my loving SSD won't even last 3 years... So ... err.. I mean I hate the military industrial comp.... actually wait yes. They should totally modernize to SSD and SD cards!
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ProfessorBooty posted:I was on the USS Connecticut, SSN-21, from 2007 to 2011. Due to the difficulty in procuring parts for that platform we always had some thing that was just permanently broken. I thought we still had a seawolf we were scrapping for parts for you guys? Im pretty sure you guys gave us your lovely lithium hydroxite canisters when we needed some while we were up north working with you guys lol.
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i am becoming geniuinely concerned that ww3 is going to be a real thing and that it is being driven by the oldest and most insane amongst our populace
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