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Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

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can odo turn into a fish bowl with fish or is that too complicated?

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galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Goatee-less Sisko with hair in the original/voyager uniform looks normal. Bald Sisko with goatee in the new/movie uniform looks normal. But something about that in-between period of Bald Goatee Sisko in the old uniform looks off. Like he’s the unnatural Tuvix of early season and late season Sisko.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Wasn't there an episode or two where he had hair and goatee?

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

Dabir posted:

Wasn't there an episode or two where he had hair and goatee?

the bajor light ship episode

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

Non Compos Mentis posted:

the bajor light ship episode

And the one where Odo kills the changeling to save the Defiant. That’s also the one where Sisko finally gets promoted.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Cthulu Carl posted:

TOS it was just random numbers. TNG on, they used a more cohesive scheme, but the scheme according to wikipedia was "the first digit "4" should represent the 24th century, with the second digit representing the television season.

Doesn't that imply each season is a decade apart? They're all looking good for being in their 90s by season 7...

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

The "formula" for TNG Stargates got tweaked a few times, but stuck with "the first digit is 4 for the 24th century, the second digit is the season". Looks like they eventually settled on a logic that a year is "1000 units"


Star Trek Chronology posted:

"The year 2323 works out as the zero point for the system of stardates developed for Star Trek: The Next Generation, assuming that the beginning of year 2364 (the first season of Star Trek: The Next Generation) was stardate 41000, and that stardates progress at 1000 units per year. In other words, under the Next Generation system of stardates, January 1, 2323 would seem to correspond to stardate 0. This probably shouldn't be taken too seriously, because Star Trek's stardates have never been too internally consistent, but we're mentioning it here because it's kinda fun."

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Apollodorus posted:

That’s also the one where Sisko finally gets promoted.

"Congratulations, Colonel Sisko."
"...the gently caress?"
"There's been a couple changes since you came out here."

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


Cthulu Carl posted:

The "formula" for TNG Stargates got tweaked a few times, but stuck with "the first digit is 4 for the 24th century, the second digit is the season". Looks like they eventually settled on a logic that a year is "1000 units"

no the formula for stargates is the first 6 chevrons mark the spatial coordinates and the 7th is the point of origin

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
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blatman posted:

no the formula for stargates is the first 6 chevrons mark the spatial coordinates and the 7th is the point of origin

Which makes no sense because constellations only look the way they do from one specific point at a certain time.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Apollodorus posted:

Which makes no sense because constellations only look the way they do from one specific point at a certain time.

That was like a whole bit in the first movie they couldn't figure out the symbols because they were five thousand year old constellations and also later the symbols on the other side were different because they were from the Abydos point of view.

In the tv show they retcon/handwave it so that all the gates have the same symbols (except a unique point of origin) but say that it's because the gate network was originally plotted from Earth.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

blatman posted:

no the formula for stargates is the first 6 chevrons mark the spatial coordinates and the 7th is the point of origin

7th Chevron, Also Lit Up!

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

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blatman posted:

no the formula for stargates is the first 6 chevrons mark the spatial coordinates and the 7th is the point of origin

chevron 5 holding

chevron 5 encoded

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

https://i.imgur.com/CCEA1UZ.mp4

sound

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
I like how earths Stargate has a big metal plate that’ll smush you to death if you’re a stranger.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

watching ds9 & making bad memes

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Apollodorus posted:

Which makes no sense because constellations only look the way they do from one specific point at a certain time.

That was one of the little details the movie got right: the symbols on the Abydos gate are completely different from the Earth gate because they're constellations as seen from Abydos with an Abydos-centric Point of Origin glyph. They dropped that from the TV show because it meant it would be loving impossible to try and find your way back home to Earth from any of the hundreds of thousands of gate addresses in the Stargate network if they all had their own symbol sets.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

That's how you get Stargate Infinity

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




nine-gear crow posted:

That was one of the little details the movie got right: the symbols on the Abydos gate are completely different from the Earth gate because they're constellations as seen from Abydos with an Abydos-centric Point of Origin glyph. They dropped that from the TV show because it meant it would be loving impossible to try and find your way back home to Earth from any of the hundreds of thousands of gate addresses in the Stargate network if they all had their own symbol sets.

Eh, the DHDs would've offered a way around that. Even if not they could've just established a way to easily identify which symbol was origin they didn't know about in the movie, and then said they were all always in the same order from there.

The main reason they dropped it was the physical props always being the same.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 20, 2023

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

MikeJF posted:

The main reason they dropped it was the physical props always being the same.

That too, I suppose. Though this is why I actually like the Stargate Universe gate a lot, all of its glyphs were binary signifies, which made sense for a "hero" gate that was constantly moving between different galaxies, so assigning the seeded gates pre-determined 6-digit address rather than constellation-based co-ordinates.

blatman
May 10, 2009

14 inc dont mez


you dial the gate because its a big rotary phone and this resonated with the ancient studio execs

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

JediTalentAgent posted:

https://www.amazon.com/Nitpickers-Guide-Next-Generation-Trekkers/dp/1573750107

I don't know if he narrates in the Gowron voice, but I hope he does.

Feels like there were a lot of "UNAUTHORIZED!" Trek books back in the 90's. Anybody read uhhhhh this one?

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
Just watched the Strange new world, lower deck crossover episode and it was delightful.

Apollodorus
Feb 13, 2010

TEST YOUR MIGHT
:patriot:

drilldo squirt posted:

Just watched the Strange new world, lower deck crossover episode and it was delightful.

Really amazing, yeah. I’m so glad Star Trek can do that now.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!

Apollodorus posted:

Really amazing, yeah. I’m so glad Star Trek can do that now.

Hey TNG and DS9 had several crossovers with each other all the way back in the 90’s! Even Voyager got Barclay.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

galagazombie posted:

Hey TNG and DS9 had several crossovers with each other all the way back in the 90’s! Even Voyager got Barclay.

And when Voyager gets back in contact with Starfleet and they're told about the Dominion War that's currently going on Chakotay's just straight up like "What the hell's a 'Dominion'? :confused:"

It was the small details between TNG, DS9 and VOY that made it feel like it was one continuous ongoing story universe for a while so that you didn't need actual actors doing crossovers all the time to still make it feel cohesive in a way. They even acknowledged the movies as happening too, and the movies acknowledged what was happening on the shows, too.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Oct 21, 2023

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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It's the territory of a sovereign or government. But that's not important right now

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Wonder how many Founders remained behind as spies after the war.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

redshirt posted:

Wonder how many Founders remained behind as spies after the war.

Star Trek: Picard then proceeds to take that question, completely misinterpret it, and then come up with the stupidest possible answer to the misheard question.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Endless Trash posted:

I hate to ruin everyone’s good time but in the era of Lower Decks there is no Terran empire and humans are a slave race

so there’s your reason for a lack of episodes about it in the fun cartoon show

Excuse me but



The Terran empire has fallen and many humans are enslaved, but not all of them. A Terran Cerritos could be a ship of scrappy underdogs.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Since there wouldn't be a Second Contact mission profile in the Terran Empire, what would the Cerritos's role be? Quisling Wrangling? Mobile Oppression Palace? Orbital Crematorium Unit?

(And lol at Buff Everyone on that cover. They all skipped leg day!)

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Why is mirror Barclay a ghost? Why use Barclay on the cover instead of an evil Mirror Geordie with body-horror cyber-eyes? Make him like the three eyed guy with the rotating head from He-Man.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde
why is mirror data buff

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Because mirror Soong made him in his own image

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


They definitely just used a pic of Stewart as Lenin for that design

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Facebook Aunt posted:

Excuse me but



The Terran empire has fallen and many humans are enslaved, but not all of them. A Terran Cerritos could be a ship of scrappy underdogs.

Isn't mirror La Forge still a loser? Except he's a villainous loser.

ChubbyChecker
Mar 25, 2018

Mulaney Power Move posted:

Isn't mirror La Forge still a loser? Except he's a villainous loser.

aren't all the fascist versions just angrier and wearing sluttier clothes

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005



Beverly is unchanged except she dyes her hair

She better be swole under that coat :mad:

Edit: I can’t get over Crazytown Wesley

Wii Spawn Camper fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 22, 2023

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TrashMammal
Nov 10, 2022

why does wesley look like he’s going through a powerman 5000 phase?

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