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Don't forget to check the temples for mysticism spells! They tend to have more variety of spell effects than the mage guild Mysticism snipe
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it's been posted, surely, but somebody was a civic engineer or something & described Vivec City as completely batshit insane and one of the worst possible ways to design a place where anyone would want to live lol
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Oct 20, 2023 18:11
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Name one world class city that doesn't have a floating jail.
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It would have been cool if the roofs were open air like they supposedly wanted to do, but it seems like an insane pain in the rear end to mod that in
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^^ That has been modded in like over 10 years ago in a dozen different mods, including the seminal BCOM which compiles all the big town mods of the past few years into one easy install package. If you want to make Vivec way better and by better I mean way worse and by worse I mean it's my favorite Vivec, there's https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/51777?tab=description&BH=1 Which hollows out the cantons and fills them with things, including residential sections just there for flavor and with empty apartments you can move into and take over and it takes literally like 5 minutes to leave your apartment block in the morning. It's incompatible with everything and uses a chunk of my VWE mod for gussying things up so I am biased but it's my favorite Vivec and it's hard to go back to tiny hallways Vivec after seeing it like this.
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Oct 20, 2023 18:49
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The #1 take away from that link is do not go to nexus on phone
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SniperWoreConverse posted:it's been posted, surely, but somebody was a civic engineer or something & described Vivec City as completely batshit insane and one of the worst possible ways to design a place where anyone would want to live lol To be fair, civil engineers will say that about anything they didn't personally come up with
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Oct 20, 2023 19:25
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Vivec city is something Vivec would have designed, as a joke.
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I don't know what combination of mods caused this, but taking the gondola to the Foreign Quarter puts me on the ocean floor, kind of between the Foreign Quarter and the silt strider. This is only one reason why my favourite way to get around Vivec is hitching a ride with my good friend ~tcl
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Vivec city is something Vivec would have designed, as a joke. It's the 36 Sermons of cities
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Larry Cum Free posted:I don't know what combination of mods caused this, but taking the gondola to the Foreign Quarter puts me on the ocean floor, kind of between the Foreign Quarter and the silt strider. This is only one reason why my favourite way to get around Vivec is hitching a ride with my good friend ~tcl Larry this is just what people in Vivec think should be done with foreigners
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Larry Cum Free posted:I don't know what combination of mods caused this, but taking the gondola to the Foreign Quarter puts me on the ocean floor, kind of between the Foreign Quarter and the silt strider. This is only one reason why my favourite way to get around Vivec is hitching a ride with my good friend ~tcl You probably have a mod that moves the foreign quarter to be more squared up with the others, and you're either not using the plugin that alters the gondolier's destinations to match, or it's being overridden by another mod that's affected the gondolier's destinations. Are you using BCOM or another mod that affects Vivec? Do you have any mods that alter travel paths, like abot's gondoliers?
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I think one of the 36 sermons says Vivec was designed to be horrible on purpose
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:I think one of the 36 sermons says Vivec was designed to be horrible on purpose Actually he hosed a mountain to death and scattered its bones/dicks while him and his 1000 boyfriends ran under it giggling and where it landed it became Vivec quote:Vivec smiled at those brave souls around him and summoned celebration demons to cleave unto the victors. There was a great display of love and duty around the netted monster, and Vivec was at the center with a headdress made of mating bones. He laughed and told mystical jokes and made the heads of the three houses marry and become a new order.
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FlocksOfMice posted:Actually he hosed a mountain to death and scattered its bones/dicks while him and his 1000 boyfriends ran under it giggling and where it landed it became Vivec Vivec totally got off on making his clergy read elaborate smutty fanfiction about himself, didn't he. At least Tiber Septim kept his weird sex poo poo largely out of the public eye. That wasn't always a good thing, mind you *cough*Barenziah*cough*
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It's a nice touch that one of the generic Vivec citizen greetings is "hey, you need help finding your way around? We live here and even we get lost."Guildenstern Mother posted:Don't forget to check the temples for mysticism spells! They tend to have more variety of spell effects than the mage guild I've learned my lesson and I've started reflexively checking spells for sale any time I come across them on offer.
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FlocksOfMice posted:Actually he hosed a mountain to death and scattered its bones/dicks while him and his 1000 boyfriends ran under it giggling and where it landed it became Vivec Found what I was thinking of in sermon 23 quote:I build for you a city of swords, by which I mean laws that cut the people who live there into better shapes. it's the goddamn ordinators not the awful city planning
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I honestly think Vivec City would be immensely improved even by adding bridges from the Foreign Quarter second-tier to the Redoran and Arena second-tier. And ways into the canalworks from the bottom tiers on all cantons.
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That there sounds like radical agitation in favour of the imperial dogs and the undeserving poor. Vivec is a city of swords after all, as reminded to us by brother ContinuityNewTimes above. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 21, 2023 |
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:
Specifically it's the idea of swords and "cutting" as a method of excising behaviors and enforcing cultural ideas by its very nature that makes the people more powerful and stronger. It's Dunmer cultural supremacy more than civil planning i know i know you're doing a joke i cannot not autism on this
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Oct 21, 2023 03:09
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:it's the goddamn ordinators not the awful city planning there should be a fixme style console command to move npcs out of your way.
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Guildenstern Mother posted:there should be a fixme style console command to move npcs out of your way. It's called Sunder.
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:It's called Sunder. Alternatively, RA, Reset Actors. Moves all NPCs/creatures back to their editor defined spawn point.
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The setup of being cockblocked by crazy high locks in multiple Thieves Guild quests, the payoff of blundering into a random cave and finding like eight goddamn locksplitter scrolls.  My biggest enemy at this point in the game has been the directions. So vague as to be useless, overcomplicated to the point of being impossible to parse, and/or my destination being a small non-descript cave or tomb hiding in plain sight.  Or worse still, I correctly intuit what to do but the quest designer decided to be a dick about it in a way where I think I'm wrong. Or I just forget where one of my dozen miscellaneous quests actually came from and the journal is no help whatsoever. I don't necessarily need later games' hyper omniscient radar that sets waypoints to every single quest step, I just want to do the fun adventuring stuff over getting lost in the middle of nowhere because some yokel mixed up east and west.
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i just googled that stuff, it's all on the wiki
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John Murdoch posted:The setup of being cockblocked by crazy high locks in multiple Thieves Guild quests, the payoff of blundering into a random cave and finding like eight goddamn locksplitter scrolls. The east west mixup happens a single time in the entire game, I think you might just be dumb lol
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One thing that can help with finding the correct Small Cave in the middle of Nowhere is to switch to the "local" map and scroll around on the road you've been walking on; you'll often pass close enough for the cave to be visible on that map when you yourself didn't really notice it. Regarding the journal, note that it has an alphabetical listing with much more information. So if you remember, for example, who gave you the quest, you can probably search for their name and it'll tell you "John Smith told me about a necromancer in the cave Dark'n'wet", and then Dark'n'wet will itself by a hyperlink and when you click on that you'll also have some directions. So basically your character takes a lot of notes, but you have to do a couple extra steps to find them.
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Asterite34 posted:Vivec totally got off on making his clergy read elaborate smutty fanfiction about himself, didn't he. Vivec committed no crime.
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mbt posted:The east west mixup happens a single time in the entire game, I think you might just be dumb lol this is what happened to me, morrowind janked my ability to navigate irl a little, but worse is giving directions "ok so go east until you see the tv tower on your right --" "-- what street is it on?" "Once you get towards the tower keep going north until...
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John Murdoch posted:The setup of being cockblocked by crazy high locks in multiple Thieves Guild quests, the payoff of blundering into a random cave and finding like eight goddamn locksplitter scrolls.
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mbt posted:The east west mixup happens a single time in the entire game, I think you might just be dumb lol You know me. You've seen my east west mixup. 
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what would happen if someone put in a chest that had lock 256 or something? The spell creation / enchant bars only go up to 100, so would the player be forced to use security, or would it just literally never work e: looked it up and even with max stats you'd prob get "lock too complex" unless you fortify fatigue way above normal or something SniperWoreConverse fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Oct 22, 2023 |
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:You know me. You've seen my east west mixup. lol
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Wafflecopper posted:i just googled that stuff, it's all on the wiki I've had the wiki open nonstop. I just wish I didn't have to with quite so much regularity. Especially when it's dumb, fiddly quest stuff. Jack B Nimble posted:One thing that can help with finding the correct Small Cave in the middle of Nowhere is to switch to the "local" map and scroll around on the road you've been walking on; you'll often pass close enough for the cave to be visible on that map when you yourself didn't really notice it. I've started to try and toggle the map though frankly I just wish there was a medium scale mode to work with. I do generally bounce around in the journal when needed, but sometimes there just isn't information to be found in there. I also can't exactly look up more information using, say, a name when I will never in a million years be able to remember NPC names unless they're super distinctive or it's a character I've talked to a hundred times. Zereth posted:I'm not sure how the many mods in the modpack affected it, but I found it easier to level my Alteration skill to cast high-level Open spells than it was to raise Lockpicking. You could also visit an enchanter person and make an item which casts Open 100, since magic items refill charge over time on their own in Morrowind. I've been keeping up just fine on Security, actually. It's just that those quests in particular hinged on I think it was a 75 and an 85 respectively, which were a great deal above my current skill range.
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can't believe the Misterbibsarine is posting itt
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Woah, hold on now. But I guess if you really feel that way I'll just gently caress off. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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There is a certain thematic appeal to wandering around a mud and ash covered hellhole where everyone hates you for being a foreigner, gives directions like a drunk farmer, to places that are all completely unpronouncable to really give you that "brit on holiday" vibe. I think you're supposed to either become enchanted with how weird it is or else develop the profound desire to wipe the entire island off the map with fireballs. I don't really have any good advice for finding your way around because the game is just like that. The directions are usually "correct" but figuring out what the game thinks is "a road" or particular landmarks is just as difficult as real life. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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John Murdoch posted:Woah, hold on now. I'll say that I love hearing about people playing through Morrowind, problems and all. Keep it up!
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John Murdoch posted:Woah, hold on now. Keep posting, I love getting the first playthrough experience thoughts even if it makes some people grumpy.
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