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Corla Plankun posted:the answer is just tedious and not interesting at all
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honestly if I went in to interview for an mobile dev position and they started asking algorithm questions, I would ask them why we need a sorting algorithm more complicated than .sortedBy { } on a front end when that should be performed on the backend if that doesn’t immediately land the job then they suck butts and so will most of your coworkers
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Oct 12, 2023 03:10
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i mean, if i saw any developer at my company, front or backend, writing a sort algorithm from first principles, i’d give them a talking to
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Oct 12, 2023 03:31
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for one of my technical interviews this internship cycle i wrote heapsort instead of doing Arrays.sort() because my brain is broken from algorithms classes and my interviewer (rightfully) made fun of me. passed the interview though
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Oct 12, 2023 05:01
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beepsort 
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Oct 12, 2023 21:12
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boss just stopped dead in the middle of a mostly technical conversation during our 1:1 and said "you're not interviewing, are you?" said no, but now i kinda feel like maybe i should be
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Oct 13, 2023 01:14
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nudgenudgetilt posted:boss just stopped dead in the middle of a mostly technical conversation during our 1:1 and said "you're not interviewing, are you?" 
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Oct 13, 2023 01:46
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Anyone have any advice for interviewing for a staff level position. I am not even sure how this place considers a sernior level position different from a staff level position. They both require 5+ years of experience (which is lol when compared to what any other non-computer toucher career considers "senior"). The only difference that I can tell is that seniors are assigned to specific projects while staff are not, there are allegedly more mentorship duties, and "staff" is considered higher level, more prestigious, and makes more money. I know titles can vary wisely between companies, but anyone have any advice. Fake edit: Doing some LinkedIn snooping and there are people at this company with 10+ years experience at senior level and then staff people barely with 5 so who knows.
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Oct 13, 2023 03:23
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read book: https://www.amazon.com/Staff-Engineers-Path-Individual-Contributors/dp/1098118731 staff is when you're expected to start taking an organizational view when planning work years of experience is not always an accurate indicator of peoples skill at that level it is totally ok to top out at senior and do other things with your life
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Oct 13, 2023 03:35
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Thank you! Ordered just now. And thank you about the titles. Staff seems like a bit a stretch from what I currently have been doing, but they said they are really interested in me and there is not reason to not continue with the interviews, if only for practice.
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Oct 13, 2023 04:18
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nudgenudgetilt posted:boss just stopped dead in the middle of a mostly technical conversation during our 1:1 and said "you're not interviewing, are you?" it's a coded message to polish your resume
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Oct 13, 2023 08:09
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There's another staff engineering book that's available for free online. I haven't read the one that The Fool linked to, but this one is very good. Staff engineer positions are still pretty standardized across companies but there is a little more variation than you'd see at the senior level. Since you know what some of the specific duties are here, you should expect to get questions about your experience with those things or similar work. At this level, the questions you ask can also play into how they perceive you, so think about what you'd need to know in order to decide whether the role is a good fit for you. You should also expect to see some technical questions that they'd throw at a senior engineer, and the bar may be higher for your answers depending on the company.
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ultrafilter posted:There's another staff engineering book that's available for free online. I haven't read the one that The Fool linked to, but this one is very good.
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the way i usually see senior -> staff framed is a change in the level/scale at which you contribute. At senior you're still doing tactical technical work and owning some features + influencing team direction. Staff is moving towards defining the strategy for the team(s) and making highly ambiguous problems tractable involving multiple teams, technically/organizationally complex solutions, and long O(years) time horizons.
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Oct 16, 2023 09:30
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Pulcinella posted:Anyone have any advice for interviewing for a staff level position. I am not even sure how this place considers a sernior level position different from a staff level position. They both require 5+ years of experience (which is lol when compared to what any other non-computer toucher career considers "senior"). The only difference that I can tell is that seniors are assigned to specific projects while staff are not, there are allegedly more mentorship duties, and "staff" is considered higher level, more prestigious, and makes more money. Based on “senior are assigned to specific projects while staff are not”: At a senior level you’ll be able to focus on product work. At a staff level you’ll be doing whatever is necessary so that the seniors can focus on product work (up to and including doing said work for them).
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Well the interview with the hiring manager went well. There were basically no technical questions; brain chugging those two Staff Engineer books really helped. I should hopefully scheduling panel interviews soon. 
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Oct 17, 2023 20:14
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Pulcinella posted:Well the interview with the hiring manager went well. There were basically no technical questions; brain chugging those two Staff Engineer books really helped. I should hopefully scheduling panel interviews soon. consider that a tentatively green flag; at some shops "staff engineer" is putatively as described as in this thread but in practice means "senior engineer with more money and prestige but less accountability," and those interviews are identical to senior engineer interviews.
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Oct 17, 2023 20:25
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I've found in my struggles (which are hopefully over for a while now because I finally got a Senior job) that Staff-level interviews are WAY more about stupid trivia like "how kafka does X" and "what does Y PaaS thing call its partition key" or whatever than dev ones. it seems like they want staff engineers to be encyclopedias about the specific technologies the team already picked, so i got a lot of "the team loved you but are getting a more 'senior'-y vibe from you" followups which were equal parts humiliating and infuriating i feel learning trivia about a specific bus/db/kvs implementation is a waste of time because the problems never wind up being caused by the underlying mechanics, its always people loving up like 2+ layers of abstraction above them, and it is trivial to google if for some reason it turns out to be important. I guess kafka is a bad example because you really do need to memorize a lot of that crap because it absolutely does not work out of the box last I checked (i've been using sqs for the past few jobs because kafka was so annoying to manage and use 5 years ago)
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Oct 17, 2023 21:08
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Leadership decided on a whim that my project and project team wasn't needed anymore, so now i'm on the hunt. People keep telling me that i need to hire someone to "optimize" my resume to get past AI filters or some bullshit. Is there truth to that, I skimmed this thread but didn't see anything?
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Oct 18, 2023 14:55
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QuantumPotato posted:Leadership decided on a whim that my project and project team wasn't needed anymore, so now i'm on the hunt. Just have a keyword section and place relevant keywords there.
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QuantumPotato posted:Leadership decided on a whim that my project and project team wasn't needed anymore, so now i'm on the hunt. sure, i'll do it for $300, send it over
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nudgenudgetilt posted:boss just stopped dead in the middle of a mostly technical conversation during our 1:1 and said "you're not interviewing, are you?" "I'm always keeping my options open and glancing the field but not actively looking right now, no" make em sweat and give you more money
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"I am always looking for paradigm shifts and innovation in personal revenue growth."raminasi posted:consider that a tentatively green flag; at some shops "staff engineer" is putatively as described as in this thread but in practice means "senior engineer with more money and prestige but less accountability," and those interviews are identical to senior engineer interviews. Scheduled all my panels for the same day (which they were happy to accommodate) with breaks in between. Just don't have chunks of time throughout the week to book. Can't even do lunch because a very important 3rd party picks that time to meet with us at my current job because it's the only time they are free. Plus I want to make a good impression and not steal my potential future coworkers lunch break. I don't know how people did this before video calls and work from home. All this does make me want to make a multipage version of my resume that documents everything and then cut it down to one page for submission. Basically just to help me remember everything I've done. In a lot of interviews the interviewer has keyed off of one or two things and asked me to expand on it. As I am talking it jogs a whole lot of "oh poo poo I also did this thing as well" memories that will probably be forgotten in a few years and it would be good for me to write it down now.
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leper khan posted:Just have a keyword section and place relevant keywords there. and try to use those keywords in the body of the resume too.
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Pulcinella posted:All this does make me want to make a multipage version of my resume that documents everything and then cut it down to one page for submission. this is what I do. one version with everything ever, trim that down to one page to apply somewhere. it's easier for me to tailor the resume for what I want to highlight by deleting and rearranging stuff than it would be to add things
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My new favorite thing is CS undergrad resumes that put python: advanced in their skills. Some features of these people: - GitHub code.py from school assignment. Has indecipherable camelCase variable names, no docstrings, barely any comments - GitHub projects have no readme or requirements.txt despite importing several 3rd party packages - GitHub projects do have private API keys committed publicly though - Have no idea what decorators are or why they're used - Have never heard of lambdas or anonymous functions, no idea why you'd use one - Have never deployed code for use outside their own computer If you put a skill level on your resume, know that this is what some assume when you say advanced and that anything less than advanced is worse than this. CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Oct 23, 2023 23:34
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its the grand secular decrease in putertouchin skills now that peeps dont really have to janitor poo poo to do normal crap on a computer
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nah that's just people not understanding what actually goes into computer touching as a profession vs as a hobby.
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some of that, too, yeah
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It's people thinking they're advanced because they (think that they) understand all the ideas that they've been exposed to. I used to see it with candidates for a job that required C++ programming who would rate themselves 9/10 with two years experience.
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i was just being glib about kids these days but this is a good discussion i went from glib to glib + glibc
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Oct 23, 2023 23:58
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CarForumPoster posted:kids these days 
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nobody wants to post anymore!!
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its not all bad back in my day the programming class was 6 virgins and and ugly girl if u were gonna docker you had to be very secretive, lawrence v texas hadnt happened yet nowadays coding and docking is for everyone!
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Mr. Crow posted:nobody wants to post anymore!!
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CarForumPoster posted:... And here I am quintuple checking every interview coding assignment before I submit because I have an irrational fear that I accidentally, somehow (again irrational), left in a bunch of swears or something.
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bit of a weird post this
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CarForumPoster posted:My new favorite thing is CS undergrad resumes that put python: advanced in their skills. when i was a stupid CS undergrad 20+ years ago a microsoft interviewer doing on-campus screens absolutely took me to the woodshed for doing this and was completely justified in it
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putting down "C++: expert" fresh out of college with no experience has the energy of a guy who learns to snowplough and then says "double black diamond ain't poo poo" like buddy you are about to powerfully Hurt Yourself
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