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I honestly found Robert’s tangent about his own grandfather near the end of this last episode was rather sweet and on-point with my own experiences grappling and reckoning with “true” masculinity over the years.
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I put off listening to the Liddy episodes until this weekend and am halfway through them now. I can't believe how good they are, and what a total loving weirdo Liddy was. Robert's sheer glee at talking about this man reminds me of the Action Park episode.
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It is amusing to me that you can tell when someone has spent way too much time arguing on twitter Jason Pargin has it bad, every single statement he leaned in to make over ep. 1 of the hawk’s nest tunnel disaster had some sort of preemptive rear end-covering statement When you argue too much on twitter, you wind up trying to fend off counterarguments before they happen with those kinds of preemptive excuses By the end of the ep I was definitely ready for him to stop letting me know how bad this story is and how hosed up the company is, just tell me what they did and stop telling me how bad it is that they did this bad thing, gently caress
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Oct 24, 2023 15:39
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I'm getting an ad for a national Goldendoodle breeder. 
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Oct 24, 2023 19:50
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Zapf Dingbat posted:I'm getting an ad for a national Goldendoodle breeder. I had a wonderful realization the other day. I had accidentally left my vpn connected to england, and the podcasts that had downloaded for me the night before had british ads. Better than the relentless online gambling ads i had been getting, that’s for sure
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rotinaj posted:It is amusing to me that you can tell when someone has spent way too much time arguing on twitter it's the same issue I had with the mkultra episodes - just constant, constant hedging from Jason i think he might actually be my least favourite guest, others I might not vibe with or find annoying but he actually interferes with my ability to learn about the subject
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Oct 24, 2023 20:36
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I like Jason because he's knowledgeable, but goddamn did it take forever to even getting to discuss the topic of the episode. Almost 40 min in and they just started telling us what the goddamn tunnel even is. Agreed that it probably comes from too much time spent preempting Twitter mobs.
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neongrey posted:it's the same issue I had with the mkultra episodes - just constant, constant hedging from Jason "Prop" gets that dubious honor from me. He's too... energetic? Excitable? His constant exclamations are really annoying.
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Oct 24, 2023 20:42
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Jason’s currently doing a podcast with Seanbaby and Robert Brockway about the Bigfoot hunting reality show Mountain Men called Bigfeet, and he’s good on that, granted it’s a much less serious topic that’s more open for jokes.
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Oct 24, 2023 20:45
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Jamie Loftus is the best BtB guest. Andre Ti and Matt Lieb are all right too.
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:Jamie Loftus is the best BtB guest. 
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:Jamie Loftus is the best BtB guest. One note: Margaret Killjoy is also a good guest, and andrew, matt and jamie are probably on the btb mount rushmore
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Oct 24, 2023 21:37
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Margaret's show is also good, at least the handful of episodes I've listened to.
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Oct 24, 2023 21:46
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Zugzwang posted:Margaret's show is also good, at least the handful of episodes I've listened to. Her books and music are also fantastic. Just saying..
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Paul F Tompkins, though to be fair, any instance I can have more PFT in my life, is an immediate yes
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Finally caught up on the G Gordon Liddy episodes. On the one hand, Robert went ludicrously in depth on Liddy's life and career. On the other hand, he failed to mention that G Gordon Liddy once played an evil katana-weilding Japanese businessman/yakuza named Satori-San in over a dozen episodes of an early nineties TV show about a crime-fighting astronaut.
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FIX SIGNS posted:Her books and music are also fantastic. I've been absolutely entranced by the ICHH Book Club Sunday episodes recently where Margaret Killjoy has been reading from her punk-horror novella "The Lamb Shall Slaughter the Lion". Last two chapters this Sunday, can't wait!
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Finally caught up on the G Gordon Liddy episodes. Any show will miss something. I remember being dissatisfied with the vince mcmahon episode because he is such a fuckface and deserves to have his poo poo brought to attention, but i also am a huge loving nerd and am obsessive over wrestling
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FIX SIGNS posted:Her books and music are also fantastic. 
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rotinaj posted:Any show will miss something. I remember being dissatisfied with the vince mcmahon episode because he is such a fuckface and deserves to have his poo poo brought to attention, but i also am a huge loving nerd and am obsessive over wrestling Yeah I felt the same way about the Vince episodes. It was more of an excuse for Robert to tell funny wrestling stories than really touch on all the heinous poo poo Vince has done.
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Zugzwang posted:Margaret's show is also good, at least the handful of episodes I've listened to. What are some stand out series on that, I've tried a few and haven't been as grabbed as BTB grabbed me?
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G Gordon Liddy is also namechecked in a Steely Dan song because Becker and Fagen got arrested in a raid he organized
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LionYeti posted:What are some stand out series on that, I've tried a few and haven't been as grabbed as BTB grabbed me? Haven't listened to many more episodes, mostly because the hours when I can listen to podcasts are rather finite at the moment.
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rotinaj posted:Any show will miss something. I remember being dissatisfied with the vince mcmahon episode because he is such a fuckface and deserves to have his poo poo brought to attention, but i also am a huge loving nerd and am obsessive over wrestling I agree as well, but I kinda think that he ended it where he did with the intent to do more in the future. It felt like he cut it a decade or two short of modern day iirc
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This might just be a me thing, but is anyone else kinda grossed out by robert doing ad reads for draftkings? I get that gambling is fine for someone with a libertarian, personal freedom bent but draftkings has absolutely got to be responsible for ruining a lot of lives with easy mobile access to gambling. And sure, he works for iheartradio/clear channel communication and just does what the bosses say, but i am still allowed to think that profiting off/helping to promote gambling addiction is gross
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I’m more disappointed because I got inundated with ads from them after my state legalized online gambling; I’m not hyperbolizing when I say literally every single ad block for every ad-supported podcast had a DK ad in rotation for a couple months
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Same, connecticut letting gambling ho like this made it take off like crazy. I don’t think robert himself was doing ad reads until recently, which is the part that super bums me out, yndoubtedly due to parasocial relationship poo poo. “Robert is my friend who talks into my ear all the time, why would he be promoting gambling in such a way that easily feeds addiction?” Because robert is an employee and is doing what he needs to do to remain employed, stupid brain. Don’t believe someone is on your side just because they say the right things.
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rotinaj posted:This might just be a me thing, but is anyone else kinda grossed out by robert doing ad reads for draftkings? Stavros Halkias does the DraftKings ads too and it just bothers me how pervasive those ads are, they are loving everywhere. Similar to pharma, if the paragraphs of disclaimers you have to read at the end are as long as the ads themselves, maybe you shouldn't be able to advertise for that product at all!
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I got an ad for Highland's health supplements listening to Behind the Bastards. As in the same people that made Highland's baby killing pills. Ethical consumption under capitalism aside, the podcast being sponsored by a former subject of the podcast is loving gross.
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rotinaj posted:This might just be a me thing, but is anyone else kinda grossed out by robert doing ad reads for draftkings? Not as bad as BetterHelp imo
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Finally caught up on the G Gordon Liddy episodes. Don't have to make a big deal outta everything. But for real, that's bonkers.
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DC Murderverse posted:Not as bad as BetterHelp imo You had a bad experience with betterhelp, we get it, but are you honestly trying to argue that halfassed therapy is worse than flat-out enabling gambling addiction in a mobile app?
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Actually I'll take that back. I'll take DraftKings ads over ads for Mo Rocca's podcast.
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Thank gently caress for the ad-free subscription
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rotinaj posted:You had a bad experience with betterhelp, we get it, but are you honestly trying to argue that halfassed therapy is worse than flat-out enabling gambling addiction in a mobile app? I don't know about worse but I would say therapy that pretends to be helpful and better than other options is pretty loving bad, especially since it's not a little know issue about the company at this point. They're both taking advantage of people and I'd prefer 20 gold selling ads over them. I find the gambling ads worse overall but that's just because I also have to see them while watching wrestling and in anything that could possibly be bet on legally and it's incredibly annoying and gross. I have no strong opinions towards Robert doing the ad reads besides annoyance, though, I doubt they have any choice on what ads are given for them to read as part of iheart.
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rotinaj posted:You had a bad experience with betterhelp, we get it, but are you honestly trying to argue that halfassed therapy is worse than flat-out enabling gambling addiction in a mobile app? It’s not just half-assed therapy, it’s the SV-ification of our mental healthcare network which is already underserved and increasingly strained. Their data protection is basically nonexistent, their employees can range from “actually useful” to “actively harmful” and their profit drive is at odds with any mission involving people actually getting better help. This isn’t to say gambling isn’t dangerous or that that the extension of gambling onto phones that permanently exist in our pockets is not bad, but that the harm BetterHelp does to individuals and the harm it does to the concept of telemedicine and mental healthcare in general are a loving nightmare, worse than even something like Uber or Grubhub in concept alone “Half-assed therapy” is often worse than no therapy at all, especially since the bar for their staff is lower than legit therapy and when people are dealing with serious mental health issues it can be the difference between life and death, especially for the sorts of people who might be inclined to use an app (poor people, closeted queer people, other marginalized populations of young people, people who already have other health issues)
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